Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
Can someone enlighten me (us)?
Thanks.
mhr
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:30AM -0700, MHR wrote:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
On a Dell, "dmidecode" will give you the serial number of the system. (I can see motherboard, chasis, memory sticks on my machine).
Doubt if you can get the serial number of the DVD burner.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Stephen Harris lists@spuddy.org wrote:
On a Dell, "dmidecode" will give you the serial number of the system. (I can see motherboard, chasis, memory sticks on my machine).
I did that. The only item of real interest (i.e., surprise) was that the CPU was listed as a Sempron-class CPU, which I found rather odd for an AMD 64x2 (which it also correctly identified).
Doubt if you can get the serial number of the DVD burner.
Didn't see it there....
Thanks.
mhr
dmidecode should work in any Linux:
man dmidecode
DMIDECODE(8) DMIDECODE(8)
NAME dmidecode - DMI table decoder
SYNOPSIS dmidecode [OPTIONS]
DESCRIPTION dmidecode is a tool for dumping a computer's DMI (some say SMBIOS) table contents in a human-readable format. This ta‐ ble contains a description of the system's hardware compo‐ nents, as well as other useful pieces of information such as serial numbers and BIOS revision. Thanks to this table, you can retrieve this information without having to probe for the actual hardware. While this is a good point in terms of report speed and safeness, this also makes the presented information possibly unreliable.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ sometimes truth is stranger than fiction -bad religion- http://www.bloglines.com/blog/mailist ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't think the computers will take over the world. I have a bucket of water.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Stephen Harris lists@spuddy.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:30AM -0700, MHR wrote:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
On a Dell, "dmidecode" will give you the serial number of the system. (I can see motherboard, chasis, memory sticks on my machine).
Doubt if you can get the serial number of the DVD burner.
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2008/7/28 thad thad.mailist@gmail.com:
dmidecode should work in any Linux:
As was discussed earlier in this thread, dmidecode mainly reports on motherboard components and does not address peripheral devices.
Also, please do not top post.
Thanks.
mhr
howdy,
did you tried lshw?
Regards,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "MHR" mhullrich@gmail.com To: "CentOS mailing list" centos@centos.org Sent: Terça-feira, 29 de Julho de 2008 01H33m GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)
2008/7/28 thad thad.mailist@gmail.com:
dmidecode should work in any Linux:
As was discussed earlier in this thread, dmidecode mainly reports on motherboard components and does not address peripheral devices.
Also, please do not top post.
Thanks.
mhr _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Eduardo Silvestre wrote:
howdy,
did you tried lshw?
have you?
this package, available in rpmforge, shows considerably less than hal-device did, albeit in a somewhat cleaner output format... ..
neither hal-device or lshw showed the serial of the optical devices on the 3 different random servers I tried them on. lshw doesn't even show the serial on SCSI hard disk drives, which is available from several sources on the same machine.
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:26:30 -0700 MHR mhullrich@gmail.com took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
Can someone enlighten me (us)?
Thanks.
mhr
You can try hdparm -i /dev/yourdevice
You may need to run this as root. There is a field for Serial Number, but for my devices no serial number is provided. This may not help you, but it could work.
Output from my system:
[prata@crane ~]$ sudo hdparm -i /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Model=Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPIModel DVD-106S 011, FwRev=E1.14, SerialNo= Config={ Fixed Removeable DTR<=5Mbs DTR>10Mbs nonMagnetic }.....other info is there but is not relevant.
HTH
Alex White
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Alex ethericalzen@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:26:30 -0700 MHR mhullrich@gmail.com took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
Can someone enlighten me (us)?
Thanks.
mhr
You can try hdparm -i /dev/yourdevice
You may need to run this as root. There is a field for Serial Number, but for my devices no serial number is provided. This may not help you, but it could work.
Output from my system:
[prata@crane ~]$ sudo hdparm -i /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Model=Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPIModel DVD-106S 011, FwRev=E1.14, SerialNo= Config={ Fixed Removeable DTR<=5Mbs DTR>10Mbs nonMagnetic }.....other info is there but is not relevant.
Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda), but the space for SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky, on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD burner. Lanny
on 7-28-2008 12:10 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Alex ethericalzen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:26:30 -0700 MHR mhullrich@gmail.com took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
Can someone enlighten me (us)?
Thanks.
mhr
You can try hdparm -i /dev/yourdevice
You may need to run this as root. There is a field for Serial Number, but for my devices no serial number is provided. This may not help you, but it could work.
Output from my system:
[prata@crane ~]$ sudo hdparm -i /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Model=Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPIModel DVD-106S 011, FwRev=E1.14, SerialNo= Config={ Fixed Removeable DTR<=5Mbs DTR>10Mbs nonMagnetic }.....other info is there but is not relevant.
Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda), but the space for SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky, on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD burner. Lanny
I don't think most optical drive manufacturers embed serial numbers in their drives. Hard drives are different, as their testing process lets them change something like a serial number, but an optical drive would require a custom firmware to be created and then loaded to the drive. That would slow the process.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote: <snip>
MHR mhullrich@gmail.com took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
Can someone enlighten me (us)?
<snip>
Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda), but the space for SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky, on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD burner. Lanny
I don't think most optical drive manufacturers embed serial numbers in their drives. Hard drives are different, as their testing process lets them change something like a serial number, but an optical drive would require a custom firmware to be created and then loaded to the drive. That would slow the process.
That probably explains why when I tried it, there were no serial numbers for my opticlal drives. I always see an SN for a HD, when running diagnostics on them. Sounds like Mark is going to need to pull the bad DVD burner anyway, so when he does, he can read the SN on the label and get an RMA for it.
on 7-28-2008 6:26 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
<snip> >>> MHR <mhullrich@gmail.com> took out a #2 pencil and scribbled: >>>> Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one >>>> of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message >>>> mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there >>>> was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the >>>> system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of >>>> subjects was unrevealing. >>>> >>>> Can someone enlighten me (us)? <snip> >> Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda), >> but the space for >> SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky, >> on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD >> burner. Lanny > I don't think most optical drive manufacturers embed serial numbers in their > drives. Hard drives are different, as their testing process lets them change > something like a serial number, but an optical drive would require a custom > firmware to be created and then loaded to the drive. That would slow the > process.
That probably explains why when I tried it, there were no serial numbers for my opticlal drives. I always see an SN for a HD, when running diagnostics on them. Sounds like Mark is going to need to pull the bad DVD burner anyway, so when he does, he can read the SN on the label and get an RMA for it.
I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
on 7-28-2008 6:26 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
<snip>
Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda), but the space for SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky, on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD burner. Lanny
I don't think most optical drive manufacturers embed serial numbers in their drives. Hard drives are different, as their testing process lets them change something like a serial number, but an optical drive would require a custom firmware to be created and then loaded to the drive. That would slow the process.
That probably explains why when I tried it, there were no serial numbers for my opticlal drives. I always see an SN for a HD, when running diagnostics on them. Sounds like Mark is going to need to pull the bad DVD burner anyway, so when he does, he can read the SN on the label and get an RMA for it.
I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.
Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install it, when you take out the defective one. Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace it with a remanufactured drive and you keep that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2 Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it, because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic cases...... Lanny
on 7-29-2008 9:59 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
on 7-28-2008 6:26 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
<snip> >>>> Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda), >>>> but the space for >>>> SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky, >>>> on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD >>>> burner. Lanny >>> I don't think most optical drive manufacturers embed serial numbers in >>> their >>> drives. Hard drives are different, as their testing process lets them >>> change >>> something like a serial number, but an optical drive would require a >>> custom >>> firmware to be created and then loaded to the drive. That would slow the >>> process. >> That probably explains why when I tried it, there were no serial numbers >> for my >> opticlal drives. I always see an SN for a HD, when running diagnostics on >> them. >> Sounds like Mark is going to need to pull the bad DVD burner anyway, so >> when he >> does, he can read the SN on the label and get an RMA for it. > I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice > unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.
Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install it, when you take out the defective one. Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace it with a remanufactured drive and you keep that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2 Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it, because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic cases...... Lanny
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote: <snip>
I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.
Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install it, when you take out the defective one. Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace it with a remanufactured drive and you keep that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2 Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it, because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic cases...... Lanny
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
I had to open that box (now my daughters) awhile back, to remove the defective Teac CD-RW drive and I remembered what happened to the original box and kept my fingers crossed, that I could get it open and close it again. When it happened to the new box, a Dimension 4300, which was under warranty, two (2) men came to our house and they had a struggle, to get the case open. Flimsy plastic. It opens like a suitcase and is incredibly easy to work on, if you can get it open. If Dell would sell a box like that, with a metal case, it would be a winner.
on 7-29-2008 10:48 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
<snip> >>> I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice >>> unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare. >> Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install >> it, when you take out the defective one. >> Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace >> it with a remanufactured drive and you keep >> that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your >> box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2 >> Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it >> works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it, >> because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support >> people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic >> cases...... Lanny > You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said > the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he > will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
I had to open that box (now my daughters) awhile back, to remove the defective Teac CD-RW drive and I remembered what happened to the original box and kept my fingers crossed, that I could get it open and close it again. When it happened to the new box, a Dimension 4300, which was under warranty, two (2) men came to our house and they had a struggle, to get the case open. Flimsy plastic. It opens like a suitcase and is incredibly easy to work on, if you can get it open. If Dell would sell a box like that, with a metal case, it would be a winner.
I have worked on them. I think a button on the top and another on the bottom that you have to push "at the same time and just right" for it to open. Then with your third arm you have to pull the side open. It was not fun. But it was a side job and paid cash.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
on 7-29-2008 10:48 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
<snip>
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
I had to open that box (now my daughters) awhile back, to remove the defective Teac CD-RW drive and I remembered what happened to the original box and kept my fingers crossed, that I could get it open and close it again. When it happened to the new box, a Dimension 4300, which was under warranty, two (2) men came to our house and they had a struggle, to get the case open. Flimsy plastic. It opens like a suitcase and is incredibly easy to work on, if you can get it open. If Dell would sell a box like that, with a metal case, it would be a winner.
I have worked on them. I think a button on the top and another on the bottom that you have to push "at the same time and just right" for it to open. Then with your third arm you have to pull the side open. It was not fun. But it was a side job and paid cash.
I think the first one we got was defective, before it left the Dell factory. If it works properly, it's pretty easy to open them and a joy to work inside. The boxes we have where the drives are in cages are a lot harder, when you need to remove and/or install a drive. It took 2 grown men to get that first Dell Dimension 4300 open and I was afraid to keep it, fearing the same problem would pop up again, the next time I needed to get inside to work on it. Cash is good.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
;^)
mhr
on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
;^)
mhr
Its supposed to be dead first?
Scott Silva wrote:
on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
;^)
mhr
Its supposed to be dead first?
Don't forget organically fed and free range.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb@midwestinstruments.com wrote:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
;^)
mhr
Its supposed to be dead first?
Don't forget organically fed and free range.
I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to me. :-)
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb@midwestinstruments.com wrote:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
;^)
mhr
Its supposed to be dead first?
Don't forget organically fed and free range.
I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to me. :-)
It's the latest rage - you have to be here....
:-)
mhr
MHR wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb@midwestinstruments.com wrote:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
;^)
mhr
Its supposed to be dead first?
Don't forget organically fed and free range.
I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to me. :-)
It's the latest rage - you have to be here....
:-)
mhr
Sheesh! Get with it, man. The scientific research has proven it works better than burning candles and chanting.
:-)
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb@midwestinstruments.com wrote:
MHR wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb@midwestinstruments.com wrote:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote: > > You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times > and > said > the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 > times, > as he > will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P > Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
;^)
mhr
Its supposed to be dead first?
Don't forget organically fed and free range.
I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to me. :-)
It's the latest rage - you have to be here....
:-)
mhr
Sheesh! Get with it, man. The scientific research has proven it works better than burning candles and chanting.
Toby: Scott implied that I should have been doing that, when trying to open that defective Dimension 4300 box and he indicated that it takes three (3) hands to open the box,. Apparently, one needs a 4th hand, to swing the chicken in the air, while trying to open the box.. They started doing that, after I moved from CA. :-) Lanny
on 7-29-2008 1:18 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb-ChNfRYRKkzM4uqLtPRYUbBGZ6WaZejjh@public.gmane.org wrote:
MHR wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb-ChNfRYRKkzM4uqLtPRYUbBGZ6WaZejjh@public.gmane.org wrote:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva > ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote: >> You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times >> and >> said >> the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 >> times, >> as he >> will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P >> > Did you remember to thaw the chicken? > > ;^) > > mhr Its supposed to be dead first?
Don't forget organically fed and free range.
I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to me. :-)
It's the latest rage - you have to be here....
:-)
mhr
Sheesh! Get with it, man. The scientific research has proven it works better than burning candles and chanting.
The candle and chanting thing went out with the virgin nerd sacrifices of the 90's.
Toby: Scott implied that I should have been doing that, when trying to open that defective Dimension 4300 box and he indicated that it takes three (3) hands to open the box,. Apparently, one needs a 4th hand, to swing the chicken in the air, while trying to open the box.. They started doing that, after I moved from CA. :-) Lanny
No... You have to hold the chicken in your teeth as you swing it about. But don't bite down too hard or you will fling the carcass into the server racks when the head separates from the neck.
But out here in the land of the Liberal setting sun, you can have as many arms as makes you "feel good about yourself". And if the people make fun of your extra arms, they will be severely punished, and otherwise chastised for their insensitivity! ;-D
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
on 7-29-2008 1:18 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb-ChNfRYRKkzM4uqLtPRYUbBGZ6WaZejjh@public.gmane.org wrote:
MHR wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm tkb-ChNfRYRKkzM4uqLtPRYUbBGZ6WaZejjh@public.gmane.org wrote:
Scott Silva wrote: > > on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following: >> >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva >> ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote: >>> >>> You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times >>> and >>> said >>> the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 >>> times, >>> as he >>> will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P >>> >> Did you remember to thaw the chicken? >> >> ;^) >> >> mhr > > Its supposed to be dead first? > Don't forget organically fed and free range.
I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to me. :-)
It's the latest rage - you have to be here....
:-)
mhr
Sheesh! Get with it, man. The scientific research has proven it works better than burning candles and chanting.
The candle and chanting thing went out with the virgin nerd sacrifices of the 90's.
Toby: Scott implied that I should have been doing that, when trying to open that defective Dimension 4300 box and he indicated that it takes three (3) hands to open the box,. Apparently, one needs a 4th hand, to swing the chicken in the air, while trying to open the box.. They started doing that, after I moved from CA. :-) Lanny
No... You have to hold the chicken in your teeth as you swing it about. But don't bite down too hard or you will fling the carcass into the server racks when the head separates from the neck.
But out here in the land of the Liberal setting sun, you can have as many arms as makes you "feel good about yourself". And if the people make fun of your extra arms, they will be severely punished, and otherwise chastised for their insensitivity! ;-D
Wow, man, like, I gave up drugs that strong YEARS ago!
;^P
mhr
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 12:54 -0700, MHR wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
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I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to me. :-)
Having lived there many years ago, for many years, I know the reason.
It's the only way to recover the drugs smuggled in via the chicken w/o cutting. That's messy and leaves easily followed trails of blood.
It's the latest rage - you have to be here....
I thought it was "Rave"? ;-)
:-)
mhr
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install it, when you take out the defective one. Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace it with a remanufactured drive and you keep that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2 Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it, because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic cases...... Lanny
Actually, this is my personal desktop that I've built and rebuilt over the years, so taking out a drive isn't THAT big of a deal.
However, the alternative Scott suggests sounds seriously tempting.
Thanks, folks!
mhr
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:26 PM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
Can someone enlighten me (us)?
PITA. You will probably need to open the box and look at the label on the drive.
The Maxtor software I use to check our hard drives tells what the SN is, among other things.
Now, the company should be open. Possibly send their Tech Support an email and ask if there is a way for you to get the SN, without opening the box.
Two of our Dell Dimension boxes are very easy to open, if the plastic doesn't bend, but in our 3 other boxes, this would be a PITA.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
PITA. You will probably need to open the box and look at the label on the drive.
I'll have to do that anyway - they said it was probably defective and I should send it back for an exchange.
Foo.
mhr
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:26 PM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
Can someone enlighten me (us)?
Follow on: When I had a problem with the Teac CD-RW drive in my daughters box, I sent an email to Teac Tech Support, asking if they had Diagnostics for it. The reply was that they had no Diagnostics. I put it into the trash and I will not buy any more Teac drives, because they have no Diagnostics. If the company has Diagnostics for your DVD burner, that will probably be able to show you the SN.
Lanny Marcus wrote:
Follow on: When I had a problem with the Teac CD-RW drive in my daughters box, I sent an email to Teac Tech Support, asking if they had Diagnostics for it. ...
DVD burners, at $39 or so new, are pretty much disposable. i find most burners are good for a few 100 disks then become less reliable.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
Lanny Marcus wrote:
Follow on: When I had a problem with the Teac CD-RW drive in my daughters box, I sent an email to Teac Tech Support, asking if they had Diagnostics for it. ...
DVD burners, at $39 or so new, are pretty much disposable. i find most burners are good for a few 100 disks then become less reliable.
We live in South America, so things cost more down here and probably the model I would specify, if I were in the USA, can't be found here. . I have had better luck with burners made by other companies. We have a Sony CD-RW drive, in an old box and it is still running. Someone on the list told me months ago he doesn't order Teac drives and I think he said he'd had good luck with LG drives. I bought an LG DVD burner for my wife's box. No more Teac stuff for me. Sony had Diagnostics for the CD-RW drive and it checked out OK.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
DVD burners, at $39 or so new, are pretty much disposable. i find most burners are good for a few 100 disks then become less reliable.
True, but it's still a PITA to install and remove them, and external drives cost more (yeah, I'm /that/ cheap :-).
mhr
MHR wrote:
Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message mentioned I should have my serial number handy. I thought there was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of subjects was unrevealing.
Can someone enlighten me (us)?
libsmbios is good getting Dell service tag serial number of system.
hal-device is good getting specific device information:
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-Ross
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