Hi,
Is there any way to customise the top panel in CentOS 7 with GNOME 3 (which I recently tried for the first time)? Specifically, I want to add "application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than the standard alternatives. (Because you can move the mouse directly to the right place - you don't have to carry out another action, wait for icons or menu items to pop up, look for the right one etc first.)
People on the web talk about a "context" menu that opens if you use some kind of weird combination of right mouse-click and Alt, Windows key, Ctrl, left click, Alt Gr or whatever, but there seems to be no way to make that happen on CentOS.
I found an answer of sorts in https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47957 -
In straight Gnome Shell -- CentOS 7 defaults to a modified version using extensions -- the panel *is* locked. Visit extensions.gnome.org to see if something there is useful.
- but I don't think I quite understand it. I mean, the ability to add extensions is nice, but if the panel is locked, isn't an "unlock" function what I should be looking for? This doesn't quite sound like an "extension". Or is the actual menu everyone talks about itself an extension? If that's the case, surely isn't there some other way to make the changes? If the standard panel allows stuff to be added, there must be a standard way to do it, right?
Also, if I do need extensions, I'd prefer to install it via the package manager system rather than through a special web interface...
Does anyone know more about this? Any help would be appreciated. - Except, that is, I don't really need anyone to suggest switching to MAME or some other alternative desktop. I might end up doing just that, but it really bugs me that I can't get functionality that's supposed to be there to work...
- Toralf
On 14/10/2016 13:39, Toralf Lund wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to customise the top panel in CentOS 7 with GNOME 3 (which I recently tried for the first time)? Specifically, I want to add "application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than the standard alternatives. (Because you can move the mouse directly to the right place - you don't have to carry out another action, wait for icons or menu items to pop up, look for the right one etc first.)
People on the web talk about a "context" menu that opens if you use some kind of weird combination of right mouse-click and Alt, Windows key, Ctrl, left click, Alt Gr or whatever, but there seems to be no way to make that happen on CentOS.
I found an answer of sorts in https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47957 -
In straight Gnome Shell -- CentOS 7 defaults to a modified version using extensions -- the panel *is* locked. Visit extensions.gnome.org to see if something there is useful.
- but I don't think I quite understand it. I mean, the ability to add
extensions is nice, but if the panel is locked, isn't an "unlock" function what I should be looking for? This doesn't quite sound like an "extension". Or is the actual menu everyone talks about itself an extension? If that's the case, surely isn't there some other way to make the changes? If the standard panel allows stuff to be added, there must be a standard way to do it, right?
Also, if I do need extensions, I'd prefer to install it via the package manager system rather than through a special web interface...
Does anyone know more about this? Any help would be appreciated. - Except, that is, I don't really need anyone to suggest switching to MAME or some other alternative desktop. I might end up doing just that, but it really bugs me that I can't get functionality that's supposed to be there to work...
- Toralf
Hi Toralf,
Have a look at https://extensions.gnome.org/ specificity https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/ also look at Gnome Tweak Tool which lets you make some other changes to how Gnome 3 works. That application Menu I believe will work on C7 (I'm using F24 as my desktop)
Tris
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On 14/10/16 16:23, Tris Hoar wrote:
On 14/10/2016 13:39, Toralf Lund wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to customise the top panel in CentOS 7 with GNOME 3 (which I recently tried for the first time)? Specifically, I want to add "application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than the standard alternatives. (Because you can move the mouse directly to the right place - you don't have to carry out another action, wait for icons or menu items to pop up, look for the right one etc first.)
People on the web talk about a "context" menu that opens if you use some kind of weird combination of right mouse-click and Alt, Windows key, Ctrl, left click, Alt Gr or whatever, but there seems to be no way to make that happen on CentOS.
I found an answer of sorts in https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.centos.org_forums_v...
In straight Gnome Shell -- CentOS 7 defaults to a modified version using extensions -- the panel *is* locked. Visit extensions.gnome.org to see if something there is useful.
- but I don't think I quite understand it. I mean, the ability to add
extensions is nice, but if the panel is locked, isn't an "unlock" function what I should be looking for? This doesn't quite sound like an "extension". Or is the actual menu everyone talks about itself an extension? If that's the case, surely isn't there some other way to make the changes? If the standard panel allows stuff to be added, there must be a standard way to do it, right?
Also, if I do need extensions, I'd prefer to install it via the package manager system rather than through a special web interface...
Does anyone know more about this? Any help would be appreciated. - Except, that is, I don't really need anyone to suggest switching to MAME or some other alternative desktop. I might end up doing just that, but it really bugs me that I can't get functionality that's supposed to be there to work...
- Toralf
Hi Toralf,
Have a look at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__extensions.gnome.org_&a... specificity https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__extensions.gnome.org_ex...
Maybe I should have been a bit more specific; I don't want launchers in a menu accessed from the panel - I want the icons to appear directly in the panel itself.
also look at Gnome Tweak Tool which lets you make some other changes to how Gnome 3 works.
I tried this earlier, but didn't find any setting related to what I want.
That application Menu I believe will work on C7 (I'm using F24 as my desktop)
The menu is actually there already - the relevant extension seems to be pre-installed.
In the Fedora version, what happens if you press Alt and right-click on the panel? If the answer is "nothing", how about "Windows"+Alt+right-click or Ctrl+Alt+right-click?
- Toralf
Tris
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On 14/10/2016 15:45, Toralf Lund wrote:
On 14/10/16 16:23, Tris Hoar wrote:
On 14/10/2016 13:39, Toralf Lund wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to customise the top panel in CentOS 7 with GNOME 3 (which I recently tried for the first time)? Specifically, I want to add "application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than the standard alternatives. (Because you can move the mouse directly to the right place - you don't have to carry out another action, wait for icons or menu items to pop up, look for the right one etc first.)
People on the web talk about a "context" menu that opens if you use some kind of weird combination of right mouse-click and Alt, Windows key, Ctrl, left click, Alt Gr or whatever, but there seems to be no way to make that happen on CentOS.
I found an answer of sorts in https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.centos.org_forums_v...
In straight Gnome Shell -- CentOS 7 defaults to a modified version using extensions -- the panel *is* locked. Visit extensions.gnome.org to see if something there is useful.
- but I don't think I quite understand it. I mean, the ability to add
extensions is nice, but if the panel is locked, isn't an "unlock" function what I should be looking for? This doesn't quite sound like an "extension". Or is the actual menu everyone talks about itself an extension? If that's the case, surely isn't there some other way to make the changes? If the standard panel allows stuff to be added, there must be a standard way to do it, right?
Also, if I do need extensions, I'd prefer to install it via the package manager system rather than through a special web interface...
Does anyone know more about this? Any help would be appreciated. - Except, that is, I don't really need anyone to suggest switching to MAME or some other alternative desktop. I might end up doing just that, but it really bugs me that I can't get functionality that's supposed to be there to work...
- Toralf
Hi Toralf,
Have a look at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__extensions.gnome.org_&a... specificity https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__extensions.gnome.org_ex...
Maybe I should have been a bit more specific; I don't want launchers in a menu accessed from the panel - I want the icons to appear directly in the panel itself.
Ok, I think I understand now. Does this not work? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4/panel-favorites/
also look at Gnome Tweak Tool which lets you make some other changes to how Gnome 3 works.
I tried this earlier, but didn't find any setting related to what I want.
That application Menu I believe will work on C7 (I'm using F24 as my desktop)
The menu is actually there already - the relevant extension seems to be pre-installed.
In the Fedora version, what happens if you press Alt and right-click on the panel? If the answer is "nothing", how about "Windows"+Alt+right-click or Ctrl+Alt+right-click?
Those do nothing for me either.
- Toralf
Tris
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On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 18:20 +0100, Tris Hoar wrote:
On 14/10/2016 15:45, Toralf Lund wrote:
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Ok, I think I understand now. Does this not work? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4/panel-favorites/
<snip>
This extension will add your favourites from 'Activites' onto the top panel and can be installed in CentOS as it is in the main repo.
sudo yum install gnome-shell-extension-panel-favorites
This maybe something for the original author to try and see if it fits their needs. Unsure about custom launchers with this extension.
Regards
Phil
On 17/10/16 20:40, Phil Wyett wrote:
On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 18:20 +0100, Tris Hoar wrote:
On 14/10/2016 15:45, Toralf Lund wrote:
<snip>
Ok, I think I understand now. Does this not work? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4/panel-favorites/
This may well do what I need. Just didn't notice it when I looked at extensions earlier. I'll test this later. (I'm not on a CentOS 7 machine right now.)
<snip>
This extension will add your favourites from 'Activites' onto the top panel and can be installed in CentOS as it is in the main repo.
sudo yum install gnome-shell-extension-panel-favorites
Good. That's the way we want it.
This maybe something for the original author to try and see if it fits their needs. Unsure about custom launchers with this extension.
One thing we've told users to do in the past is to edit a certain pre-installed launcher after dragging it from the panel to the desktop (and they didn't find it hard or confusing...) Perhaps something like that won't be possible with this extension. But I'll find out what can be done.
- Toralf
Regards
Phil
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Il giorno ven, 14/10/2016 alle 14.39 +0200, Toralf Lund ha scritto:
I want to add "application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than the standard alternatives.
Gnome 3 don't like comfortable "personal application launcher" and you're happy. It want you use mouse and keyboard to run some standard apps. If you want use this DE like all DE, you must install and active some extension.
Specially do not like Right click in some places and "Add new Launcher", this is gone for a long time and I believe dont't come back.
I use this extension to launch my custom application with personal setting, like personal shell command and ssh connections:
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/699/connection-manager/
For now, with some hack work, but it seems is no longer supported in the future, and I'm not a java script expert to maintainer it.
I use Gnome on Fedora from a long time unfortunately, but When this extension (connman) will no longer work on a next new version of Gnome, I stop using Gnome and shall, with a bit of difficulty, go to another DE.
On 15/10/16 10:45, Dario Lesca wrote:
Il giorno ven, 14/10/2016 alle 14.39 +0200, Toralf Lund ha scritto:
I want to add "application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than the standard alternatives.
Gnome 3 don't like comfortable "personal application launcher" and you're happy. It want you use mouse and keyboard to run some standard apps. If you want use this DE like all DE, you must install and active some extension.
I believe a prominent GNOME developer once talked about the "un-break my application" preference in the context of how not to implement configurability. And now GNOME has turned into a system where you need "un-break my desktop environment" extensions...
Specially do not like Right click in some places and "Add new Launcher", this is gone for a long time and I believe dont't come back.
But how about adding other stuff, like "system-wide" extensions?
Like I said, it does seem like users of other distributions get some kind of configuration options via right-click...
I use this extension to launch my custom application with personal setting, like personal shell command and ssh connections:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__extensions.gnome.org_ex...
For now, with some hack work, but it seems is no longer supported in the future, and I'm not a java script expert to maintainer it.
I use Gnome on Fedora from a long time unfortunately, but When this extension (connman) will no longer work on a next new version of Gnome, I stop using Gnome and shall, with a bit of difficulty, go to another DE.
:-(
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