I did the update from CR, and have some pretty serious issues. Until I blew away (by mv to a different name) the .local and .config directory trees, I couldn't log in to GNOME at all. After doing that, I can log in, but if I do any actual work, GNOME crashes, and abrt-cli from root in vc 2 tells me that gnome-shell got a SIGSEGV. I figure all of the updates aren't in CR yet, so I'm going to pull out my backup machine and work with it until I see if CR gets more updates. Good thing I've got vacation scheduled for next week!I did quite a few other things in trying to troubleshoot, including attempting a yum distro-sync without CR enabled, which had helped me rollback once before, but not this time. Once I get my backup machine set up I can post better details.
On 11/18/18 6:30 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
I did the update from CR, and have some pretty serious issues. Until I blew away (by mv to a different name) the .local and .config directory trees, I couldn't log in to GNOME at all. After doing that, I can log in, but if I do any actual work, GNOME crashes, and abrt-cli from root in vc 2 tells me that gnome-shell got a SIGSEGV. I figure all of the updates aren't in CR yet, so I'm going to pull out my backup machine and work with it until I see if CR gets more updates. Good thing I've got vacation scheduled for next week!I did quite a few other things in trying to troubleshoot, including attempting a yum distro-sync without CR enabled, which had helped me rollback once before, but not this time. Once I get my backup machine set up I can post better details.
Sorry to hear that. I've updated one workstation (Intel Skylake) to the latest packages in CR, and everything works well and smoothly. I like the new GNOME. Maybe it's something special to your machines that triggered those issues.
Le 18/11/2018 à 15:30, Lamar Owen a écrit :
Since Red Hat decided to roll in some major GNOME updates between minor releases, I'm seriously beginning to wonder if I won't be better off using Fedora on desktops. That's a real question, not a rhetorical one, BTW. I'm currently experimenting with Fedora 29 and a minimal KDE, and the result is quite nice.
https://github.com/kikinovak/fedora-desktop-kde
On servers I'll always use CentOS though.
:o)
On 11/18/2018 09:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
I'm actually surprised with the jump in gnome versions between minor point releases. I guess they trying to strike a different balance for the GUI / Desktop and Server services. I actually do appreciate it for my desktops. GNOME3 is the default (and likely the most tested) desktop.
There are new gnome-session and gdm updates that I am getting ready to push to CR .. gnome-session-3.28.1-6.el7.src.rpm and gdm-3.28.2-10.el7.src.rpm .. no idea what the actually do yet, but you can see if they fix any of your issues by looking at the upstream errata, etc.
On 11/20/18 8:48 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Well, reporting back, and I'm not 100% sure what caused my problem. I have used several repos since I installed the box two years ago, and there was quite a bit of clutter. I'm leaning towards my use of xscreensaver (I like the 'flurry' screensaver) as the likely culprit, but I had enough clutter that it's not really practical (not to mention that I really can't take the time) to fully troubleshoot and be close to 100% sure.
Since I did have some clutter to deal with, and the drives (250GB mSATA SSD and 1TB HGST 7K1000) are two years old at this point, I decided it was time to refresh my installation. So I got a good deal on a Samsung 860 EVO 500GB mSATA and another HGST 7K1000 (one of the best 2.5 inch drives out there), and waited until they came in to do a complete reinstall, and am rsyncing files over from the older 1TB drive as needed. The Dell Precision M6700 laptop has two 2.5 inch bays plus the mSATA slot, so I downloaded the 1804 DVD iso (mirrors must be syncing; the download took way longer than it should have!), installed to the 860 SSD with the 1TB as /home (leaving the old 1TB /home alone), and successfully updated with CR afterwards. The install of the ELrepo nvidia driver went smoothly, and after some install work and rsync work I'm back operational; a USB 3.0 enclosure for the older mSATA boot drive made it much easier.
I spent more time trying to troubleshoot GNOME3's startup than it took to install and update!
In a related vein, does anyone have a pointer to a good solid GNOME3 startup document that gives enough detail to where someone can actually troubleshoot without having to patch and rebuild gjs and stack trace javascript? Just a simple startup log woul be nice, instead of the SIGSEGV in /var/log/messages..... (side note: I really hate how the Android GMail messes up threading; the Samsung email app is better, but it can't properly display a lot of the messages in the CentOS list (such as Johnny's) and GMail can)
Le 20/11/2018 à 14:48, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
On a side note. One component I do wish Red Hat would upgrade regularly between point releases is the HPLIP printer driver. The version shipped with RHEL/CentOS is fairly obsolete and also buggy (hp-plugin hasn't been working for ages). Which means pretty much every new HP printer I buy nowadays is unsupported.
There is always the possibility of installing HPLIP from upstream, which I documented here for example :
* https://blog.microlinux.fr/hp-pagewide-pro-centos/
But this method also has its shortcomings. And is one of the many reasons why I'm considering the move to Fedora on the desktop (which is more or less a rolling distribution with releases in between).
Cheers,
Niki
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