When I right click on the desktop and I get the menu... Where do I control the order of that menu??? I want hte open terminal to be first. Just like 4.4 was.
Thanks,
Jerry
--- Jerry Geis geisj@pagestation.com wrote:
When I right click on the desktop and I get the menu... Where do I control the order of that menu??? I want hte open terminal to be first. Just like 4.4 was.
You can not.
Starting with GNOME 2.12, the terminal option has been removed from the desktop context menu. Any distro that still has it with GNOME 2.12, 2.14 or 2.16 either has added it as a distro-specific enhancement, or it uses the nautilus-open-terminal extension.
RHEL5/CentOS5 and FC5, FC6 use nautilus-open-terminal. RHEL4/CentOS4 had GNOME 2.8, but you knew that.
Cheers, R-C aka Béranger
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On 3/13/07, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU beranger5ca@yahoo.ca wrote:
--- Jerry Geis geisj@pagestation.com wrote:
Where do I control the order of that menu???
You can not.
Starting with GNOME 2.12, the terminal option has been removed from the desktop context menu.
I realize this is moving off-topic for the CentOS list, but: What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 at 7:04pm, Bart Schaefer wrote
I realize this is moving off-topic for the CentOS list, but: What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
Talk to the gnome folks...
What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
Talk to the gnome folks...
Well, too bad that the upstream `prominent North American vendor' is not providing with alternate WMs like: FVWM, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox. In those ones, you can do whatever you want with the menu.
R-C
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 at 3:49am, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote
What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
Talk to the gnome folks...
Well, too bad that the upstream `prominent North American vendor' is not providing with alternate WMs like: FVWM, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox. In those ones, you can do whatever you want with the menu.
Both KDE and XFCE offer more flexibility than gnome. At least, that's what I hear. FVWM is the first thing I add to my centos installs.
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 at 3:49am, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote
What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
Talk to the gnome folks...
Well, too bad that the upstream `prominent North American vendor' is not providing with alternate WMs like: FVWM, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox. In those ones, you can do whatever you want with the menu.
Both KDE and XFCE offer more flexibility than gnome. At least, that's what I hear. FVWM is the first thing I add to my centos installs.
The KDE menu is still editable. Right click on the "K", select Menu Editor and go to work.
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 at 7:04pm, Bart Schaefer wrote
I realize this is moving off-topic for the CentOS list, but: What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
Talk to the gnome folks...
Battling with some of those folks suggests that they remove any feature which has the tinyest possibility of confusing the least knowledgable. Goodness knows why you can't have "advanced" configuration dialogs to change some of their braindead defaults (if there is an option, it's usually hidden in that gconf disaster, but usually they hard code in the crap).
I gave up several years ago with gnome (also see the discussion between gnome and linus), and have been pretty happy with kde since. I still have to face that shockingly bad gtk/gnome file dialog box when using firefox though :-(
Jeremy
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sanders Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:23 AM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Re: centos beta 5 right click on desktop [OT]
Battling with some of those folks suggests that they remove any
feature
which has the tinyest possibility of confusing the least knowledgable. Goodness knows why you can't have "advanced" configuration dialogs to change some of their braindead defaults (if there is an option, it's usually hidden in that gconf disaster, but usually they hard code in
the
crap).
I gave up several years ago with gnome (also see the discussion
between
gnome and linus), and have been pretty happy with kde since. I still
have
to face that shockingly bad gtk/gnome file dialog box when using
firefox
though :-(
I used KDE briefly on my SuSE Linux at home, but it kept the CPU so busy that everything ran slower than <you know what>. I'm not seeing that problem with gnome, here at work (CentOS 4.4+) or at home (still SuSE until I put in the new Mobo/Mem/Video). Has that changed, or is KDE still a CPU/GPU hog?
Thanks.
mhr
--- Mark Hull-Richter mhull-richter@datallegro.com wrote:
I used KDE briefly on my SuSE Linux at home, but it kept the CPU so busy that everything ran slower than <you know what>. I'm not seeing that problem with gnome, here at work (CentOS 4.4+) or at home (still SuSE until I put in the new Mobo/Mem/Video). Has that changed, or is KDE still a CPU/GPU hog?
I have not installed KDE in CentOS, so I couldn't tell about this particular build. I have not used KDE since June 2005(!)...
...until I tried it again in December 2006 under Slackware 11, and I was impressed: much more stable than what it was back in 2005. I have tried it in some other distros too (Pardus 2007, Mandriva 2007 and Flash, and PC-BSD 1.3).
After a year and half of GNOME-only life (except for occasionally WindowMaker, fluxbox, openbox -- and FVWM in OpenBSD), I have very recently converted myself to KDE!
The next CentOS install will be KDE. FC6 works very well with KDE, and even has a right-click menu entry Konsole (not in the vanilla KDE). I suppose CentOS 5 will do just about the same.
R-C
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--- Mark Hull-Richter mhull-richter@datallegro.com wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org
[mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Sanders Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:23 AM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Re: centos beta 5 right click on
desktop [OT]
Battling with some of those folks suggests that
they remove any feature
which has the tinyest possibility of confusing the
least knowledgable.
Goodness knows why you can't have "advanced"
configuration dialogs to
change some of their braindead defaults (if there
is an option, it's
usually hidden in that gconf disaster, but usually
they hard code in the
crap).
I gave up several years ago with gnome (also see
the discussion between
gnome and linus), and have been pretty happy with
kde since. I still have
to face that shockingly bad gtk/gnome file dialog
box when using firefox
though :-(
I used KDE briefly on my SuSE Linux at home, but it kept the CPU so busy that everything ran slower than <you know what>. I'm not seeing that problem with gnome, here at work (CentOS 4.4+) or at home (still SuSE until I put in the new Mobo/Mem/Video). Has that changed, or is KDE still a CPU/GPU hog?
Thanks.
mhr _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
to be honest i have not seen that problem of high consumption of cpu with KDE
Steven
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows or better'. So I installed Linux."
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 11:30 am, Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
I used KDE briefly on my SuSE Linux at home, but it kept the CPU so busy that everything ran slower than <you know what>. I'm not seeing that problem with gnome, here at work (CentOS 4.4+) or at home (still SuSE until I put in the new Mobo/Mem/Video). Has that changed, or is KDE still a CPU/GPU hog?
Note that I don't use CentOS on my desktop; I use Mandriva 2005 (I know it's old; eventually I'll move to something else, perhaps CentOS5).
I keep ten different screens open, and usually five or six copies of Mozilla, and KMail with one main window and five or so individual emails windows.
I occasionally see a spike, and when I run the desktop without rebooting over two months or so, I sometimes even lock up and have to leave the computer for a few hours if I want it to catch up with itself and start running again without a restart.
But generally KDE runs very well for me:
<snip> top - 08:55:15 up 33 days, 19:29, 1 user, load average: 0.30, 0.27, 0.20 Tasks: 164 total, 1 running, 163 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 12.5% us, 4.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 83.1% id, 0.2% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 1018328k total, 998416k used, 19912k free, 24660k buffers Swap: 1044152k total, 341648k used, 702504k free, 219348k cached </snip>
Note this is the KDE that came with Mandriva 2005 LE.
Jeff
On 3/13/07, Joshua Baker-LePain jlb17@duke.edu wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 at 7:04pm, Bart Schaefer wrote
I realize this is moving off-topic for the CentOS list, but: What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
Talk to the gnome folks...
<flamewar mode on>
Bart Schaefer wrote:
On 3/13/07, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU beranger5ca@yahoo.ca wrote:
--- Jerry Geis geisj@pagestation.com wrote:
Where do I control the order of that menu???
You can not.
Starting with GNOME 2.12, the terminal option has been removed from the desktop context menu.
Is that what is in CentOS 5? If so, and CentOS 4 still has that on the menu, then I probably will not be installing 5.
I realize this is moving off-topic for the CentOS list, but: What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
I geuss they are afraid that newbies will shoot their feet off.
Mike
Mike McCarty wrote:
Starting with GNOME 2.12, the terminal option has been removed from the desktop context menu.
Is that what is in CentOS 5? If so, and CentOS 4 still has that on the menu, then I probably will not be installing 5.
No. CentOS 5 uses "Nautilus-Open-Terminal" which gives you an "Open Terminal" when right-clicking on the Desktop.
Ralph
Mike McCarty spake the following on 3/29/2007 10:34 PM:
Bart Schaefer wrote:
On 3/13/07, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU beranger5ca@yahoo.ca wrote:
--- Jerry Geis geisj@pagestation.com wrote:
Where do I control the order of that menu???
You can not.
Starting with GNOME 2.12, the terminal option has been removed from the desktop context menu.
Is that what is in CentOS 5? If so, and CentOS 4 still has that on the menu, then I probably will not be installing 5.
I realize this is moving off-topic for the CentOS list, but: What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
I geuss they are afraid that newbies will shoot their feet off.
Mike
BBAANNGG!!!!!!
OUCH! ;-P
O/H Scott Silva έγραψε:
Mike McCarty spake the following on 3/29/2007 10:34 PM:
Bart Schaefer wrote:
On 3/13/07, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU beranger5ca@yahoo.ca wrote:
--- Jerry Geis geisj@pagestation.com wrote:
Where do I control the order of that menu???
You can not.
Starting with GNOME 2.12, the terminal option has been removed from the desktop context menu.
Is that what is in CentOS 5? If so, and CentOS 4 still has that on the menu, then I probably will not be installing 5.
I realize this is moving off-topic for the CentOS list, but: What (if any) is the rationale for the desktop menu NOT being user-configurable? Why shouldn't I be able to put anything in there I like?
I geuss they are afraid that newbies will shoot their feet off.
Mike
BBAANNGG!!!!!!
OUCH! ;-P
[slightly off-topic reply]
Hehe, users' fate is not in our hands. An example at my work proves it: Average "would be 31337 H@xx0r" employee discovers loss of ethernet connection on his winblows machine.
He rumbles the PC cables for some seconds to no avail and then heads to the company's rack. He starts pulling out all ethernet cables from the switch, in a vain attempt to locate and correct his network problem. Seconds later, company's employees emerge from their offices, yelling and running down the hallways complaining of unsaved data /frozen pc's / lost internet - you get the idea. 5 minutes later I receive a service call.
So I say leave it as it is, Gnome people. Let them pay us more of their precious juice.
Rizoulis Thanasis Electronic Computing Systems Engineer Larissa Greece
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 12:58 +0300, Thanasis Rizoulis wrote:
O/H Scott Silva έγραψε:
<snip>
BBAANNGG!!!!!!
OUCH! ;-P
[slightly off-topic reply]
Hehe, users' fate is not in our hands. An example at my work proves it: Average "would be 31337 H@xx0r" employee discovers loss of ethernet connection on his winblows machine.
He rumbles the PC cables for some seconds to no avail and then heads to the company's rack. He starts pulling out all ethernet cables from the switch, in a vain attempt to locate and correct his network problem. Seconds later, company's employees emerge from their offices, yelling and running down the hallways complaining of unsaved data /frozen pc's / lost internet - you get the idea. 5 minutes later I receive a service call.
So I say leave it as it is, Gnome people. Let them pay us more of their precious juice.
You might make more money in that company as a security consultant. Spend days and days to come up with a suggestion for a cable closet with a locking door, armor cladding optional if there is concern about available fire axes being nearby. ;-)
Rizoulis Thanasis Electronic Computing Systems Engineer Larissa Greece <snip sig stuff)
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