On one mirror that I tried, at least.
So, is it live yet? :-)
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote:
On one mirror that I tried, at least.
So, is it live yet? :-)
Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go.
BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type "yum upgrade"? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that?
******************************************************************************* Gilbert Sebenste ******** (My opinions only!) ****** *******************************************************************************
On 31-Mar-09, at 10:44 AM, Gilbert Sebenste wrote:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote:
On one mirror that I tried, at least.
So, is it live yet? :-)
Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go.
BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type "yum upgrade"? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that?
For 5.x to 5.3, you must:
# yum update glibc # yum update
You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe).
d
RobertH wrote:
For 5.x to 5.3, you must:
# yum update glibc # yum update
You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe).
if this is so, is there a link to this on upstream website that someone already has booked?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=5.3+%22yum+update+glibc+%22+site%3Aredhat.com
On 31-Mar-09, at 11:46 AM, RobertH wrote:
For 5.x to 5.3, you must:
# yum update glibc # yum update
You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe).
d
if this is so, is there a link to this on upstream website that someone already has booked?
please share
- rh
I found out about that on this list, and it has surfaced on other mail lists I am on where the products are centos based.
I don't have the exact link.
d
On 31-Mar-09, at 12:15 PM, dnk wrote:
On 31-Mar-09, at 11:46 AM, RobertH wrote:
For 5.x to 5.3, you must:
# yum update glibc # yum update
You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe).
d
if this is so, is there a link to this on upstream website that someone already has booked?
please share
- rh
I found out about that on this list, and it has surfaced on other mail lists I am on where the products are centos based.
I don't have the exact link.
d
From one of the other lists I am on:
indeed, that is the number 1 item from the release notes.
4. Known Issues
When updating from 5.2 to 5.3 you can run into a problem with rpm: "rpmdb: unable to lock mutex: Invalid argument". To avoid this please update glibc before updating the rest of the installation: yum update glibc && yum update
and for kick-starters (new installs)
There is a major anaconda issue when using kickstart. With 5.3 you cannot set the time zone in the kickstart file. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481617 for the bug report. There is a workaround at http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-15687
d
thus Gilbert Sebenste spake:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote:
On one mirror that I tried, at least.
So, is it live yet? :-)
Yap. I'm seeding ISO images for four hours already.
My machine at home (this one) is 5.3 already (clean install from DVD):
[timo@dragon ~]$ uname -a Linux $FWDN 2.6.18-128.el5xen #1 SMP Wed Jan 21 11:12:42 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
;)
Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go.
BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type "yum upgrade"? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that?
At Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:44:00 -0500 (CDT) CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote:
On one mirror that I tried, at least.
So, is it live yet? :-)
Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go.
BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type "yum upgrade"? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that?
You don't need to change anything. 'yum update' will update things, within a given major release (eg 4.x or 5.x). It will happen automagically. Going from 4.x to 5.x requires using the installer (eg the ISOs and a reboot with the installer CD/DVD). I don't know if it is possible (or advisable) to do a major release update with yum.
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Robert Heller heller@deepsoft.com wrote:
At Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:44:00 -0500 (CDT) CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote:
On one mirror that I tried, at least. So, is it live yet? :-)
Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go.
BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type "yum upgrade"? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that?
You don't need to change anything. 'yum update' will update things, within a given major release (eg 4.x or 5.x). It will happen automagically. Going from 4.x to 5.x requires using the installer (eg the ISOs and a reboot with the installer CD/DVD). I don't know if it is possible (or advisable) to do a major release update with yum.
Maybe possible, but usually/always strongly discouraged, by upstream and the CentOS team, to upgrade from one major release to another. Best to BACKUP and install fresh.
The caution about first updating glibc (?) is important. I recall from the update to 5.2, there is a difference, between "yum upgrade" and "yum update". I believe "yum upgrade" is a better way to go from 5.2 to 5.3. *BACKUP*, read the Release Notes and then you are ready to roll. Probably the standard CentOS Repos that you have from the original install will do it.
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Lanny Marcus wrote:
You don't need to change anything. 'yum update' will update things, within a given major release (eg 4.x or 5.x). It will happen automagically. Going from 4.x to 5.x requires using the installer (eg the ISOs and a reboot with the installer CD/DVD). I don't know if it is possible (or advisable) to do a major release update with yum.
Maybe possible, but usually/always strongly discouraged, by upstream and the CentOS team, to upgrade from one major release to another. Best to BACKUP and install fresh.
I agree. I was with Redhat starting with 6, and left after Fedora 9 got too restrictive with things. I have done upgrades, and it wasn't pretty, between major releases. Going from CentOS 5.2 to 5.3 is most worthy of doing a backup, no matter what.
The caution about first updating glibc (?) is important. I recall from the update to 5.2, there is a difference, between "yum upgrade" and "yum update". I believe "yum upgrade" is a better way to go from 5.2 to 5.3. *BACKUP*, read the Release Notes and then you are ready to roll. Probably the standard CentOS Repos that you have from the original install will do it.
OK, sounds good. Thanks, everyone!
******************************************************************************* Gilbert Sebenste ******** (My opinions only!) ****** *******************************************************************************
On Mar 31, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Gilbert Sebenste <sebenste@weather.admin.niu.edu
wrote:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Lanny Marcus wrote:
You don't need to change anything. 'yum update' will update things, within a given major release (eg 4.x or 5.x). It will happen automagically. Going from 4.x to 5.x requires using the installer (eg the ISOs and a reboot with the installer CD/DVD). I don't know if it is possible (or advisable) to do a major release update with yum.
Maybe possible, but usually/always strongly discouraged, by upstream and the CentOS team, to upgrade from one major release to another. Best to BACKUP and install fresh.
I agree. I was with Redhat starting with 6, and left after Fedora 9 got too restrictive with things. I have done upgrades, and it wasn't pretty, between major releases. Going from CentOS 5.2 to 5.3 is most worthy of doing a backup, no matter what.
The caution about first updating glibc (?) is important. I recall from the update to 5.2, there is a difference, between "yum upgrade" and "yum update". I believe "yum upgrade" is a better way to go from 5.2 to 5.3. *BACKUP*, read the Release Notes and then you are ready to roll. Probably the standard CentOS Repos that you have from the original install will do it.
OK, sounds good. Thanks, everyone!
Just to clarify for others reading this, going from 5.2 to 5.3 (or any point release) is NOT considered a major upgrade (unlike going from 4 to 5 which is), so doing a backup, clean install and restore is NOT the recommended procedure.
Just perform a straight yum upgrade.
You should be backing up your personal/business data anyways, but an extra one right before any upgrade is good practice. Don't bother with the standard system executables, just the data and configs.
-Ross
Lanny Marcus wrote:
The caution about first updating glibc (?) is important. I recall from the update to 5.2, there is a difference, between "yum upgrade" and "yum update".
No, there is not. Except if you fiddled with the configuration and turned *off* obsoletes in /etc/yum.conf.
I believe "yum upgrade" is a better way to go from 5.2 to 5.3.
It is technically *the same*.
Ralph
d2009/4/1 Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de:
Lanny Marcus wrote:
The caution about first updating glibc (?) is important. I recall from the update to 5.2, there is a difference, between "yum upgrade" and "yum update".
No, there is not. Except if you fiddled with the configuration and turned *off* obsoletes in /etc/yum.conf.
Ralph: I remembered something about a difference, between "yum upgrade" and "yum update", from the release of CentOS 5.2. I hadn't fiddled with the configuration of /etc/yum.conf and did not read the Release Notes, before I upgraded from 5.1 to 5.2. I used "yum update" and I was OK. This was a gentle reminder to myself to read the Release Notes, which is always an outstanding idea and something I didn't do when 5.2 came out. Last night, on the list, I picked up about updating glibc first. In the CentOS 5 General Support Forum, in Akemi's thread, "When will CentOS 5.3 be out"; 59,375 views at this time. I will wait a few days, before I upgrade. Lanny <snip>
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gilbert Sebenste Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:44 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote:
On one mirror that I tried, at least.
So, is it live yet? :-)
Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go.
Really?? Excellent, you rock guys!
BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type "yum upgrade"? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that?
Minor version upgrades (eg 5.2 > 5.3): yum update Major version upgrades (eg 5.9 > 6.0): save conf-files, /home etc first, then complete reinstall with new release.
Yum should take care of that for you.
on 3-31-2009 10:41 AM Florin Andrei spake the following:
On one mirror that I tried, at least.
So, is it live yet? :-)
The announcement will tell you if it is live. Prior updates seem to have been done like this;
Packages and ISO's are synced to mirrors. Maybe packages first, then ISO's.
When a sufficient set of mirrors are synced (a large percentage), the yum metadata is synced. I think there are methods in place to check if a mirror is fully up.
When this is done, then the release announcement is done. The mirror servers do their thing and assign fully updated mirrors out to the public.
That way the faster mirrors aren't overwhelmed with downloads as the slower mirrors are still catching up, and systems don't try to yum update on an incomplete mirror and break.
Do everyone a favor and wait another day or so. If you saw ISO's they may not be complete yet, and you will add bandwidth load for nothing.
When you see a release announcement, then all bets are off, and everyone will be pounding the mirrors anyway.
Happy CentOS'ing!
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 18:41:48 Florin Andrei wrote:
On one mirror that I tried, at least.
So, is it live yet? :-)
Well It's live on my local mirror. I've just done a yum update on a test server and everything seems OK. So it looks like the wait was worth it.
Good job to all those CentOS developers.
regards,
Tony
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