Hello.
I have a Nvidia Geforce 5200 graphic card, the quality much is less that in windows, I would like how I can adjust this. Image quality is good, but usual desktop have much less quality, I use 1024*768 in both.
Thanks
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Josep M. wrote:
Hello.
I have a Nvidia Geforce 5200 graphic card, the quality much is less that in windows, I would like how I can adjust this. Image quality is good, but usual desktop have much less quality, I use 1024*768 in both.
I believe Nvidia provide their own drivers for Linux on their website. You might try those.
James
Josep M. wrote:
Hello.
I have a Nvidia Geforce 5200 graphic card, the quality much is less that in windows, I would like how I can adjust this. Image quality is good, but usual desktop have much less quality, I use 1024*768 in both.
Thanks
Take a look at the article 'NVIDIA Driver Release 1.0-8762' at this link: http://www.linuxhardware.org/
You'll find the driver under 'Usual Links:' at the bottom of the article. If you click on the 'README' and then on 'A. Supported NVIDIA Graphics Chips' you'll find out if your graphics card is supported. If not then maybe there's another driver out there somewhere.
Philip Wyett gave me some really good help in this thread: [CentOS] Video Card Not Recognized Installing CentOS 3.7
Hope that helps, Corwin
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 15:58 -0500, Corwin Burgess wrote:
Josep M. wrote:
Hello.
I have a Nvidia Geforce 5200 graphic card, the quality much is less that in windows, I would like how I can adjust this. Image quality is good, but usual desktop have much less quality, I use 1024*768 in both.
Thanks
Take a look at the article 'NVIDIA Driver Release 1.0-8762' at this link: http://www.linuxhardware.org/
You'll find the driver under 'Usual Links:' at the bottom of the article. If you click on the 'README' and then on 'A. Supported NVIDIA Graphics Chips' you'll find out if your graphics card is supported. If not then maybe there's another driver out there somewhere.
Philip Wyett gave me some really good help in this thread: [CentOS] Video Card Not Recognized Installing CentOS 3.7
Hope that helps, Corwin
As Corwin has stated the latest driver is OK for you as the GeForce FX 5200 is supported. This chips hardware ID is also part of at least the CentOS 4.x kernel.
Note: I _never_ use any form of rpm based wrapped nvidia driver that can be found in some third party repos. I do not find this necessary at all and find people who do have more issues.
Below is my usual method for nvidia driver install.
Prerequisites:
* The gcc tool chain be installed. * The kernel-devel package be installed.
The latest driver release is here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html
* Download the .run driver file to a location of your choosing. * Obtain root privileges using 'su -' and entering the root password. * Open and edit '/etc/inittab' with your preferred editor and change the line:
id:5:initdefault:
to
id:3:initdefault:
This will change your runlevel from 5 (graphical) to 3 (text). Save the changes and exit the editor.
Note: Some people use telinit, but I prefer not to as I newer cards as well as older ones.
* Reboot your machine. * You will boot up into runlevel 3 and at the end of the process will be presented with a text login. * Login as root. * Run the nvidia driver installer with a command line like:
sh /path_to_the_downloaded_driver/driver_filename.sh
* Once the installer begins you will be prompted with various questions. Answer the questions as appropriate. When it asks to go to the nvidia ftp to find a pre built module, answer in the negative. * Once the basic questions have been answered, it will go away and build then install the nvidia kernel module. * Once the install portion completes you will be asked if you wish to configure X using the nvidia configuration tool - Answer in the negative!!!
Note: This tool I have found is immature and does more harm than good.
* Once the total install has completed it will prompt you of the fact and you can exit the installer. * While still as root, open and edit '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' and make the following changes.
Line:
Load "dri"
to
#Load "dri"
Line:
Driver "nv"
to
Driver "nvidia"
This will make the newly installed nvidia driver be loaded and ignore anything dri (Direct Rendering Infrastructure). Save the changes and exit the editor.
* Open and edit '/etc/inittab' with your preferred editor and change the line:
id:3:initdefault:
to
id:5:initdefault:
This will reverse your earlier change and make the system boot to runlevel 5 (graphical) by default again. Save the changes and exit the editor.
* Now back at the prompt, type 'exit' to logout from the root account. * Do the three finger salute i.e. 'Ctrl + Alt + Delete' to reboot.
All being correct the system will reboot and you will see an nvidia logo screen once or twice during boot (this will tell you the driver is loading OK) and it should boot as normal from then on.
This completes the way I personally do it. For those wondering why the reboot. Well... nvidia cards that are unknown to the kernel will cause kudzu to kick in and configure the hardware id before proceeding, so now out of habit I use the same method for all.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Phil
On 17/08/06, Philip Wyett philipwyett@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: [SNIP]
Download the .run driver file to a location of your choosing.
Obtain root privileges using 'su -' and entering the root password.
Open and edit '/etc/inittab' with your preferred editor and change the line:
id:5:initdefault:
to
id:3:initdefault:
This will change your runlevel from 5 (graphical) to 3 (text). Save the changes and exit the editor.
Reboot your machine.
[SNIP]
- Now back at the prompt, type 'exit' to logout from the root account.
- Do the three finger salute i.e. 'Ctrl + Alt + Delete' to reboot.
[SNIP]
Excellent howto but..
Are the two reboots needed? Why not stop gdm/kdm/whatever from console while logged in as root and do the install and edits and then again restart. You can simply do this by giving command "telinit 3" while logged in as root from "Alt+Ctl+f1" (console 1) and again "telinit 5" to restart.
or am I going wrong somewhere?
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 05:45 +0530, Sudev Barar wrote:
On 17/08/06, Philip Wyett philipwyett@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: [SNIP]
Download the .run driver file to a location of your choosing.
Obtain root privileges using 'su -' and entering the root password.
Open and edit '/etc/inittab' with your preferred editor and change the line:
id:5:initdefault:
to
id:3:initdefault:
This will change your runlevel from 5 (graphical) to 3 (text). Save the changes and exit the editor.
Reboot your machine.
[SNIP]
- Now back at the prompt, type 'exit' to logout from the root account.
- Do the three finger salute i.e. 'Ctrl + Alt + Delete' to reboot.
[SNIP]
Excellent howto but..
Are the two reboots needed? Why not stop gdm/kdm/whatever from console while logged in as root and do the install and edits and then again restart. You can simply do this by giving command "telinit 3" while logged in as root from "Alt+Ctl+f1" (console 1) and again "telinit 5" to restart.
or am I going wrong somewhere?
As I explained you can use telinit, but for me it's just a preference not to and I feel the method I used is easier for new comers who really don't need the shortcuts so early in their Linux lives.
Regards
Phil
On 17/08/06, Philip Wyett philipwyett@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 05:45 +0530, Sudev Barar wrote:
On 17/08/06, Philip Wyett philipwyett@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: [SNIP] [SNIP]
Excellent howto but..
Are the two reboots needed? Why not stop gdm/kdm/whatever from console while logged in as root and do the install and edits and then again restart. You can simply do this by giving command "telinit 3" while logged in as root from "Alt+Ctl+f1" (console 1) and again "telinit 5" to restart.
or am I going wrong somewhere?
As I explained you can use telinit, but for me it's just a preference not to and I feel the method I used is easier for new comers who really don't need the shortcuts so early in their Linux lives.
Okay. But you lost me there when you wrote something about older/newer cards in the same line.
Philip Wyett wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 05:45 +0530, Sudev Barar wrote:
On 17/08/06, Philip Wyett philipwyett@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: [SNIP]
Download the .run driver file to a location of your choosing.
Obtain root privileges using 'su -' and entering the root password.
Open and edit '/etc/inittab' with your preferred editor and change the line:
id:5:initdefault:
to
id:3:initdefault:
This will change your runlevel from 5 (graphical) to 3 (text). Save the changes and exit the editor.
Reboot your machine.
[SNIP]
- Now back at the prompt, type 'exit' to logout from the root account.
- Do the three finger salute i.e. 'Ctrl + Alt + Delete' to reboot.
[SNIP]
Excellent howto but..
Are the two reboots needed? Why not stop gdm/kdm/whatever from console while logged in as root and do the install and edits and then again restart. You can simply do this by giving command "telinit 3" while logged in as root from "Alt+Ctl+f1" (console 1) and again "telinit 5" to restart.
or am I going wrong somewhere?
As I explained you can use telinit, but for me it's just a preference not to and I feel the method I used is easier for new comers who really don't need the shortcuts so early in their Linux lives.
Regards
Phil
to learn others bad practice (restarting the system if not necessary is one of them) is not good - especially if they are newcomers; not to mention that what Sudet Barar suggested is much faster and easier.
Lec
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 10:17 +0300, Alexandru Chiscan wrote:
Philip Wyett wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 05:45 +0530, Sudev Barar wrote:
On 17/08/06, Philip Wyett philipwyett@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: [SNIP]
Download the .run driver file to a location of your choosing.
Obtain root privileges using 'su -' and entering the root password.
Open and edit '/etc/inittab' with your preferred editor and change the line:
id:5:initdefault:
to
id:3:initdefault:
This will change your runlevel from 5 (graphical) to 3 (text). Save the changes and exit the editor.
Reboot your machine.
[SNIP]
- Now back at the prompt, type 'exit' to logout from the root account.
- Do the three finger salute i.e. 'Ctrl + Alt + Delete' to reboot.
[SNIP]
Excellent howto but..
Are the two reboots needed? Why not stop gdm/kdm/whatever from console while logged in as root and do the install and edits and then again restart. You can simply do this by giving command "telinit 3" while logged in as root from "Alt+Ctl+f1" (console 1) and again "telinit 5" to restart.
or am I going wrong somewhere?
As I explained you can use telinit, but for me it's just a preference not to and I feel the method I used is easier for new comers who really don't need the shortcuts so early in their Linux lives.
Regards
Phil
to learn others bad practice (restarting the system if not necessary is one of them) is not good - especially if they are newcomers; not to mention that what Sudet Barar suggested is much faster and easier.
Lec
If it was a server where uptime was important then use of telinit would be appropriate. But not many folks install the proprietary nvidia driver on servers and for workstations or laptops reboots don't really matter. Describing it as bad practice is ridiculous.
In the mail I clearly mentioned telinit could be used but did not expand on it, just specified I personally did not use it as is my choice. Should I spend more of my time writing all the possible options just to make some people happy - Not a chance, I've got plenty of other non and CentOS related work to do!
Regards
Phil
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 09:16 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
If it was a server where uptime was important then use of telinit would be appropriate. But not many folks install the proprietary nvidia driver on servers and for workstations or laptops reboots don't really matter. Describing it as bad practice is ridiculous.
Very nice howto with the exception of the reboot advice. It is somewhat short of ridiculous to describe unnecessary reboots as bad practice IMHO. Newbies would be well served to see that one of the [many] great advantages of Linux over Redmond OSs is the absence of the perpetual reboot cycle. Rebooting for every change is way too windows-like for my taste, and I have workstation (and server) machines that regularly go months without a reboot in the absence of kernel updates.
In the mail I clearly mentioned telinit could be used but did not expand on it, just specified I personally did not use it as is my choice.
No problem with your choice - Linux is all about choice - and you clearly covered the option most of the responders seem to prefer - just not clearly explained.
One other viable choice IS to use 3rd party repos, which may be easier for a newbie as well as being consistent with frequent advice to use RPM packages on an RPM-based system. I have had very good experience with ATrpms nVidia kmdl packages; although I'd recommend against using Axel's packages wholesale for a stable CentOS system. The yum includepkgs directive is quite useful here.
Should I spend more of my time writing all the possible options just to make some people happy - Not a chance, I've got plenty of other non and CentOS related work to do!
I hear you. Perhaps someone can find time to build on this for a WiKi article. Will take a crack at it if I can find the time. :-)
[other] Phil
Phil Schaffner wrote:
I hear you. Perhaps someone can find time to build on this for a WiKi article. Will take a crack at it if I can find the time. :-)
There already is an article on the wiki, that i linked to a few emails back.
here is the link again
http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/NvidiaDriver
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 06:21 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 09:16 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
If it was a server where uptime was important then use of telinit would be appropriate. But not many folks install the proprietary nvidia driver on servers and for workstations or laptops reboots don't really matter. Describing it as bad practice is ridiculous.
Very nice howto with the exception of the reboot advice. It is somewhat short of ridiculous to describe unnecessary reboots as bad practice IMHO. Newbies would be well served to see that one of the [many] great advantages of Linux over Redmond OSs is the absence of the perpetual reboot cycle. Rebooting for every change is way too windows-like for my taste, and I have workstation (and server) machines that regularly go months without a reboot in the absence of kernel updates.
OK ... lets look at this objectively.
You are usually installing an Nvidia driver because:
1. You just turned off the computer, installed a video card, and just turned on the computer.
2. You just installed CentOS for the first time.
3. You just installed a new kernel.
In either case ... you just booted the machine. It has 25 seconds of uptime. Another reboot is NOT going to matter.
It is certainly best practice, in my opinion, to reboot your machine if you need to restart X. You certainly can do telinit 5 after to did telinit 3 ... but I always reboot and I always recommend rebooting.
If you have a reason not to reboot, fine, but IMHO it is a very good practice to reboot ... if for no other reason than to make sure that it works and there is not a problem with udev creating the nvidia device, etc. If there is a problem, you want to find it now ... while you are installing the driver, and not after a power loss when you reboot needing to access a very important presentation you were just getting ready to use.
In the mail I clearly mentioned telinit could be used but did not expand on it, just specified I personally did not use it as is my choice.
No problem with your choice - Linux is all about choice - and you clearly covered the option most of the responders seem to prefer - just not clearly explained.
One other viable choice IS to use 3rd party repos, which may be easier for a newbie as well as being consistent with frequent advice to use RPM packages on an RPM-based system. I have had very good experience with ATrpms nVidia kmdl packages; although I'd recommend against using Axel's packages wholesale for a stable CentOS system. The yum includepkgs directive is quite useful here.
Should I spend more of my time writing all the possible options just to make some people happy - Not a chance, I've got plenty of other non and CentOS related work to do!
I hear you. Perhaps someone can find time to build on this for a WiKi article. Will take a crack at it if I can find the time. :-)
That also says to reboot :)
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 06:21 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 09:16 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
If it was a server where uptime was important then use of telinit would be appropriate. But not many folks install the proprietary nvidia driver on servers and for workstations or laptops reboots don't really matter. Describing it as bad practice is ridiculous.
Very nice howto with the exception of the reboot advice. It is somewhat short of ridiculous to describe unnecessary reboots as bad practice IMHO. Newbies would be well served to see that one of the [many] great advantages of Linux over Redmond OSs is the absence of the perpetual reboot cycle. Rebooting for every change is way too windows-like for my taste, and I have workstation (and server) machines that regularly go months without a reboot in the absence of kernel updates.
For server and uptime I totally agree, but for workstations and laptops I see a couple of boots as no great shakes. I wrote the howto in 10 minutes to give a straight through way to do a good install that has the least amount of chance of side affects and geared towards the total newbie. I feel adding multiple ways of doing one thing in a howto as a way to possibly confuse. This is why I did not go into depth with telinit.
I won't do the turn your workstations and laptops off when your not using them to save the planet. :-D
[snip]
One other viable choice IS to use 3rd party repos, which may be easier for a newbie as well as being consistent with frequent advice to use RPM packages on an RPM-based system. I have had very good experience with ATrpms nVidia kmdl packages; although I'd recommend against using Axel's packages wholesale for a stable CentOS system. The yum includepkgs directive is quite useful here.
Third party repos I have seen on many a mailing become a problem when the repo falls behind the latest kernel release. Indeed this method has its merits but there are a few pitfalls also.
Should I spend more of my time writing all the possible options just to make some people happy - Not a chance, I've got plenty of other non and CentOS related work to do!
I hear you. Perhaps someone can find time to build on this for a WiKi article. Will take a crack at it if I can find the time. :-)
That would be good. The current one in the wiki does not really help anyone.
[other] Phil
Regards
Phil
Philip Wyett wrote:
I hear you. Perhaps someone can find time to build on this for a WiKi article. Will take a crack at it if I can find the time. :-)
That would be good. The current one in the wiki does not really help anyone.
submit a patch ?
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 10:17 +0300, Alexandru Chiscan wrote:
Philip Wyett wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 05:45 +0530, Sudev Barar wrote:
On 17/08/06, Philip Wyett philipwyett@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: [SNIP]
<snip>
Are the two reboots needed? Why not stop gdm/kdm/whatever from console while logged in as root and do the install and edits and then again restart. You can simply do this by giving command "telinit 3" while logged in as root from "Alt+Ctl+f1" (console 1) and again "telinit 5" to restart.
or am I going wrong somewhere?
As I explained you can use telinit, but for me it's just a preference not to and I feel the method I used is easier for new comers who really don't need the shortcuts so early in their Linux lives.
I agree with the reboot, but for other reasons (so my other reply). The "shortcuts" are best introduced "early in their Linux lives". The first learned "habits" are the ones that tend to stick the longest and hardest. Teach alternatives early on and let the growth experience determine the preference. Different folks will have affinities for different methods. Don't hamstring them by presuming for their own benefit.
<snip>
to learn others bad practice (restarting the system if not necessary is one of them) is not good - especially if they are newcomers; not to mention that what Sudet Barar suggested is much faster and easier.
"Bad practice" is not an appropriate description here, IMO. "Less than optimal" might apply, or even "not the the best lazy way"! :-)
Lec _______________________________________________
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On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 23:54 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 15:58 -0500, Corwin Burgess wrote:
Josep M. wrote:
Hello.
I have a Nvidia Geforce 5200 graphic card, the quality much is less that
<snip>
Obtain root privileges using 'su -' and entering the root password.
Open and edit '/etc/inittab' with your preferred editor and change the line:
id:5:initdefault:
to
id:3:initdefault:
My suggestion here is to forgo the edit. Just reboot, enter grub and add the run level desired at the end of the (usually) 2nd line for an entry that specifies the root file system.
Reasoning is straight forward: one less change to go wrong. Risk: if you end up unexpectedly booting again and *if* you forget to enter grub edit again, you are back into run level 5, possibly with the wrong video card specified. But a quick switch to any virtual console to make repairs gets one by that, so I consider the risk acceptable
This will change your runlevel from 5 (graphical) to 3 (text). Save the changes and exit the editor.
Note: Some people use telinit, but I prefer not to as I newer cards as well as older ones.
I prefer it, but have found it unreliable... wait, telinit is OK, it's the surrounding activities that go awry. The few times I've telinit'd from 5 to 3 to 5, I've had problems.
Referring to the rest of the posts about reboot vs. telinit, one should recall that there are certain levels of reset that occur on warm boot and others still on cold boot. Whether these are important here I don't know, but caution at a cheap price is a good value.
Presuming that one has actually *planned* the change, one will shutdown, install and boot. So what's the issue about boot vs. (tel)init? Lack of planning? At some point the BIOS ESCD is updated, so you'll want to boot after installing the card anyway... he-he NOPE! Install and never boot or install HOT! =:-O
- Reboot your machine.
<snip>
Corwin Burgess wrote:
Josep M. wrote:
Hello.
I have a Nvidia Geforce 5200 graphic card, the quality much is less that in windows, I would like how I can adjust this. Image quality is good, but usual desktop have much less quality, I use 1024*768 in both.
http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/NvidiaDriver
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 13:17, Josep M. wrote:
I have a Nvidia Geforce 5200 graphic card, the quality much is less that in windows, I would like how I can adjust this. Image quality is good, but usual desktop have much less quality, I use 1024*768 in both.
Ok, let me get this straight. You're using 1024x768 resolution in both Linux and Windows, right? If not resolution, what exactly do you mean by 'quality?'
The only thing the nVidia closed source driver buys you is better hardware acceleration, particularly 3D (I have a GeForce 5700, and the perceived quality under Fedora Core 5 and Windows XP is, to me, identical).
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