Hi,
I have a fresh install of CentOS 5.5, with a minimal GNOME desktop. I configured RPMForge as third party repo.
I updated everything first, then installed flash-plugin. (And yes, I restarted Firefox... :oD). All I see when I try to see some things Flash on the Internet, like Youtube or the likes, I get... nothing. The space remains white. Sometimes a black square will appear, sometimes it will redisappear again.
$ rpm -q flash-plugin flash-plugin-10.1.82.76-0.1.el5.rf
I also tried to give the more recent version from Adobe a shot, with the same result. I took a look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, where everything seems normal.
$ ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 nov 8 22:22 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so
Which leaves me clueless. Any suggestions ?
Cheers,
Niki
Niki Kovacs wrote:
Hi,
I have a fresh install of CentOS 5.5, with a minimal GNOME desktop. I configured RPMForge as third party repo.
I updated everything first, then installed flash-plugin. (And yes, I restarted Firefox... :oD). All I see when I try to see some things Flash on the Internet, like Youtube or the likes, I get... nothing. The space remains white. Sometimes a black square will appear, sometimes it will redisappear again.
$ rpm -q flash-plugin flash-plugin-10.1.82.76-0.1.el5.rf
I also tried to give the more recent version from Adobe a shot, with the same result. I took a look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, where everything seems normal.
$ ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 nov 8 22:22 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so
Which leaves me clueless. Any suggestions ?
anything in about:plugins ? (type that in your address bar in firefox)
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg a écrit :
anything in about:plugins ? (type that in your address bar in firefox)
Yeah, first thing I checked. Everything seems fine :
Shockwave Flash
Fichier : libflashplayer.so Version : Shockwave Flash 10.1 r82
Type MIME Description Suffixes Autorisé application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Oui application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Oui
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Niki Kovacs wrote:
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg a écrit :
anything in about:plugins ? (type that in your address bar in firefox)
Yeah, first thing I checked. Everything seems fine :
Shockwave Flash
yep looks good. anything in dmesg after it fails? or could it be selinux maybe? otherwise no further ideas, good luck
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:42:33 +0100 Niki Kovacs contact@kikinovak.net wrote:
$ ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 nov 8 22:22 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so
Which leaves me clueless. Any suggestions ?
Hi,
Try to put the flash lib in ~/.mozilla/plugins the following way:
Make ~/Flash64 dir, put there libflashplayer.so from Adobe Flash rpm and then make symlink to ~/.mozilla:
~/.mozilla/plugins/@libflashplayer.so
Why do you use flash-plugin? Use the latest lib from Adobe.
32 and 64 bit versions of latest "flashes": http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
My flash: Shockwave Flash 10.2 d161 (from about:plugins in web browser)
Regards
Przemysław Pawełczyk a écrit :
Why do you use flash-plugin? Use the latest lib from Adobe.
32 and 64 bit versions of latest "flashes": http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
My flash: Shockwave Flash 10.2 d161 (from about:plugins in web browser)
I tried what you suggested. Removed flash-plugin, installed development version. When I open about:plugins, I have this :
Shockwave Flash
Fichier : libflashplayer.so Version : Shockwave Flash 10.2 d161
But still, no videos can be played. Whenever I go on snotr.com, youtube.com or the likes, I either get a blank space where the video should be, or a black square the size of the video, but nothing in it.
I tried this on two fresh installs on two different machines, with the same result.
I'm clueless.
Niki
On 11/08/10 2:28 PM, Niki Kovacs wrote:
But still, no videos can be played. Whenever I go on snotr.com, youtube.com or the likes, I either get a blank space where the video should be, or a black square the size of the video, but nothing in it.
I tried this on two fresh installs on two different machines, with the same result.
I had similar problems on netbook using the Poulsbro chipset. Couldn't find any solution, even using Fedorka.latest. gave up and put the windows HD back in the netbook.
what I'm trying to suggest is, this could possibly be an issue with your X-Windows graphics adapter driver. In my case, it was the poulsbo graphics driver, which is known experimental and sub-par.
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:33:14 -0800 John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 11/08/10 2:28 PM, Niki Kovacs wrote:
But still, no videos can be played. Whenever I go on snotr.com, youtube.com or the likes, I either get a blank space where the video should be, or a black square the size of the video, but nothing in it.
I tried this on two fresh installs on two different machines, with the same result.
I had similar problems on netbook using the Poulsbro chipset. Couldn't find any solution, even using Fedorka.latest. gave up and put the windows HD back in the netbook.
what I'm trying to suggest is, this could possibly be an issue with your X-Windows graphics adapter driver. In my case, it was the poulsbo graphics driver, which is known experimental and sub-par.
Hi,
Did you (Niki) try to d/load any flv from youtube.com and run it with (s)mplayer for example?
Perhaps try to change video driver or set up VBox, install CentOS in it, and then smplayer. VBox has excellent vesa driver and CentOS is very good host to run VBox with other systems.
What did google say when asked for black flash film frames?
Regards
Przemysław Pawełczyk a écrit :
Did you (Niki) try to d/load any flv from youtube.com and run it with (s)mplayer for example?
Perhaps try to change video driver or set up VBox, install CentOS in it, and then smplayer. VBox has excellent vesa driver and CentOS is very good host to run VBox with other systems.
What did google say when asked for black flash film frames?
Regards
I tried this on four differents machines here. It's a computer training room, so there's plenty of ready Linux installs on a Ghost server.
Flash works on any one of these machines with Fedora, openSUSE and Arch. So it's not the hardware.
Fresh install of CentOS with RPMForge configured and flash-plugin installed : Flash fails everywhere. Same result with flash-plugin from the Adobe repo.
Still more clueless than before :o)
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 07:47:06AM +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:
Fresh install of CentOS with RPMForge configured and flash-plugin installed : Flash fails everywhere. Same result with flash-plugin from the Adobe repo.
Still more clueless than before :o)
It just works for me on x86_64 CentOS-5.5: about: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101028 CentOS/3.6-2.el5.centos Firefox/3.6.11 about:plugins: NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.3.0 File: npwrapper.so Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_22 File: libnpjp2.so Shockwave Flash File: nswrapper_32_64.libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 10.1 r102 Adobe Reader 9.4 File: nswrapper_32_64.nppdf.so
Tru
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 07:47:06 +0100 Niki Kovacs contact@kikinovak.net wrote:
I tried this on four differents machines here. It's a computer training room, so there's plenty of ready Linux installs on a Ghost server.
Flash works on any one of these machines with Fedora, openSUSE and Arch. So it's not the hardware.
Fresh install of CentOS with RPMForge configured and flash-plugin installed : Flash fails everywhere. Same result with flash-plugin from the Adobe repo.
Still more clueless than before :o)
Hmmm...
I have found one day that some libraries or apps NOT installed albeit being installed are treated by systems as INSTALLED. Check if ALL ancillary apps/libs to flash were installed.
All of us with installed RHEL (me Scientific Linux) has no problem with Flash. I must assume that you lost something during installation.
Perhaps yours is that special case about which wrote Mr John R Pierce - "I had similar problems on netbook using the Poulsbro chipset. Couldn't find any solution, even using Fedorka.latest. gave up and put the windows HD back in the netbook."
I would do the following things:
1. Try LiveCD (any) to run Flash on your hardware. 2. Install the LiveCD to check if new system will run on your PC. 3. Install CentOS once more to ****base**** system then, watching carefully, only the apps needed to run (s)mplayer to check if multimedia are working OK. 4. Install Flash. 5. Change graphics card when working in CentOS. ???
Heck, there's no magic in PC's software there! ;-)
BTW. You cannot run Flash, what about other multimedia files (stand alone plus in web browsers' frames)?
Regards
Niki Kovacs contact@kikinovak.net wrote:
I tried this on four differents machines here. It's a computer training room, so there's plenty of ready Linux installs on a Ghost server. Flash works on any one of these machines with Fedora, openSUSE and Arch. So it's not the hardware. Fresh install of CentOS with RPMForge configured and flash-plugin installed : Flash fails everywhere. Same result with flash-plugin from the Adobe repo. Still more clueless than before :o)
If you do a ps, do you see the 'plugin-container' and/or 'npviewer.bin' processes? Maybe strace them... Tried with another browser (opera, etc...)?
JD
Le mardi 9 novembre 2010 12:08:54, Przemysław Pawełczyk a écrit :
- Try LiveCD (any) to run Flash on your hardware.
- Install the LiveCD to check if new system will run on your PC.
- Install CentOS once more to ****base**** system then, watching
carefully, only the apps needed to run (s)mplayer to check if multimedia are working OK. 4. Install Flash. 5. Change graphics card when working in CentOS. ???
Hi,
I somehow found a solution to the problem, in that I decided to replace my CentOS desktops in my office with Fedora 14 (KDE). Of course, this was not only motivated by the mysterious Flash problem, but I've been pondering the question for a while. Of course, all my servers will still run CentOS. I had already tried out Fedora 12 and 13, but Fedora 14 with KDE is a great thing, a full rival to Mac OS X or (God forbid) Windows Seven.
Just took a look at the RHEL 5.6 release notes, and I see PHP 5.3 is integrated, which is a thing I've equally been looking forward to.
Cheers from the sunny South of France,
Niki Kovacs
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:45:40 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs contact@kikinovak.net wrote:
Le mardi 9 novembre 2010 12:08:54, Przemysław Pawełczyk a écrit :
(...)
I somehow found a solution to the problem, in that I decided to replace my CentOS desktops in my office with Fedora 14 (KDE).
(See this Cc-ed post as exception to my rules, justified one I must add.)
Hi,
It's rather a pity you stopped at one step of a series which could lead to finding the solution. Perhaps the time to solve the mysterious "black holes" of Flash was too long to be worthy of all those efforts. You decided. :-)
Have a nice day.
Regards
Le mardi 9 novembre 2010 12:08:54, Przemysław Pawełczyk a écrit :
Perhaps yours is that special case about which wrote Mr John R Pierce - "I had similar problems on netbook using the Poulsbro chipset. Couldn't find any solution, even using Fedorka.latest. gave up and put the windows HD back in the netbook."
I've been a happy CentOS user for the last three years, and I'd say: almost exclusively. The *almost* is explained by the odd irrational panic behaviour on my behalf, which mostly consists of wanting to replace my whole fine setup by <insert_other_distribution_here>, only because this particular distribution doesn't have the same problem... but a wealth of other problems, as I am soon to discover in the days to come. This usually happens late at night or early in the morning, in the wake of the combined effects of sleep (lack) and caffeine (excess). Invariably, I come "home" to CentOS, with an embarrassed feeling of unfaithful-husband-returning-home-after-a-dirty-weekend-somewhere-else. I suspect some folks on this list have similar experiences.
Anyway, this morning, I tried a fresh install of CentOS 5.5, installed the Flash plugin from RPMForge, which didn't work. So I simply reverted to the previous version (Flash 9 instead of 10) which works fine for me. Added the according exclude=flash-plugin line in /etc/yum.conf, and life is sunny again.
Cheers from my little village on a hill.
Niki Kovacs
Przemysław Pawełczyk a écrit :
All of us with installed RHEL (me Scientific Linux) has no problem with Flash. I must assume that you lost something during installation.
OK, I just found out, after quite a lot of fiddling. Be it a server or a desktop, I always start out with a bare-bones minimal system. Then, I only add what I really need : X server, GNOME, handful of apps. And so it comes that the 'curl' package is not installed on my systems (as I tend to type 'wget -c' instead of 'curl -C - -O' :oD).
Now here's the solution : Flash 10 has a dependency on 'curl', and that dependency is not explicit. Curiously enough, Flash 9 works without curl.
RPMForge packagers, roll up your sleeves :o)
Niki
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