Sorry for the top post.
The default route is the route applied when no other route matches the destination IP. From that how would you figure out which default route to pick, only if the routes were weighted could you pick between two.
If you had two routes with equal weight and the traffic went round robin between them then the originating host will discard half the returning traffic because it's not coming from the same ip it sent it to.
No your best bet is probably to do reverse NAT'ing as it is simple to setup and you don't have to worry about default routes and weight. Traffic initiates on 1 gateway and sticks with it for the duration of the session. You can use BGP on the gateways outside interface to load balance or fail-over the default gateway or use round-robin DNS, MX records for mail, etc.
-Ross
----- Original Message ----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org centos-bounces@centos.org To: centos@centos.org centos@centos.org Sent: Tue Jan 29 18:03:13 2008 Subject: [CentOS] Re: Network routes
on 1/29/2008 2:53 PM Jason Pyeron spake the following:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ross S. W. Walker Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 17:38 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: RE: [CentOS] Network routes
Jason Pyeron wrote:
I am unable to ping NE.TW.RKB.IP1 from an outside network. Other machines which do not have access or routes for NET.WOR.KA.0 respond
just fine.
How do I get it to respond on both NET.WOR.KA.0 and NE.TW.RKB.0 given all default traffic should go through NET.WOR.KA.1 unless it is in reply to traffic from NE.TW.RKB.1 or there is an outage.
[root@host20 ~]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface NET.WOR.KA.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 NE.TW.RKB.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 NET.WOR.KA.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 NE.TW.RKB.1 0.0.0.0 UG 20 0 0 eth0
[root@host20 ~]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:17:31:0F:04:AE inet addr:NE.TW.RKB.IP1 Bcast:NE.TW.RKB.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth0:pn Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:17:31:0F:04:AE inet addr:192.168.1.20 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:E9:42:D0 inet addr:NET.WOR.KA.IP2 Bcast:NET.WOR.KA.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
You can have only 1 default route.
You can use RIP or some other routing protocol to advertise defualt routes to the host from the gateways based upon route availability or weight, or you can deploy reverse NAT'ing on the gateways so external IPs will be masqueraded as the internal IP of the gateway and thus be routed to the appropriate gateway based on which IP they arrived on.
-Ross
But I have 2 physical network cards, on 2 different networks. Should they not both have default routes?
You would think so, but it will confuse the system so bad that traffic won't know where to go. The default route is the route that packets need to take to leave your network to enter the outside world. Every thing under your control should have static routes of some kind, or a routing daemon.
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From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ross S. W. Walker Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 18:22 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: Network routes
Sorry for the top post.
The default route is the route applied when no other route matches the destination IP. From that how would you figure out which default route to pick, only if the routes were weighted could you pick between two.
If you had two routes with equal weight and the traffic went round robin between them then the originating host will discard half the returning traffic because it's not coming from the same ip it sent it to.
No your best bet is probably to do reverse NAT'ing as it is simple to setup and you don't have to worry about default routes and weight. Traffic initiates on 1 gateway and sticks with it for the duration of the session. You can use BGP on the gateways outside interface to load balance or fail-over the default gateway or use round-robin DNS, MX records for mail, etc.
-Ross
Okay, they were weighted primay at 0 and it worked. Secondary at 20, it would never be chosen as a default. But how does a reply get out to the net on the same route it came in on?
----- Original Message ----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org centos-bounces@centos.org To: centos@centos.org centos@centos.org Sent: Tue Jan 29 18:03:13 2008 Subject: [CentOS] Re: Network routes
on 1/29/2008 2:53 PM Jason Pyeron spake the following:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [ mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Ross S. W. Walker
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 17:38 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: RE: [CentOS] Network routes
Jason Pyeron wrote:
I am unable to ping NE.TW.RKB.IP1 from an outside network. Other machines which do not have access or routes for NET.WOR.KA.0 respond
just fine.
How do I get it to respond on both NET.WOR.KA.0 and NE.TW.RKB.0 given all default traffic should go through NET.WOR.KA.1 unless it is in reply to traffic from NE.TW.RKB.1 or there is an outage.
[root@host20 ~]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface NET.WOR.KA.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 NE.TW.RKB.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 NET.WOR.KA.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 NE.TW.RKB.1 0.0.0.0 UG 20 0 0 eth0
[root@host20 ~]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:17:31:0F:04:AE inet addr:NE.TW.RKB.IP1 Bcast:NE.TW.RKB.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth0:pn Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:17:31:0F:04:AE inet addr:192.168.1.20 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:E9:42:D0 inet addr:NET.WOR.KA.IP2 Bcast:NET.WOR.KA.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
You can have only 1 default route.
You can use RIP or some other routing protocol to advertise defualt routes to the host from the gateways based upon route availability or weight, or you can deploy reverse NAT'ing on the gateways so external IPs will be masqueraded as the internal IP of the gateway and thus be routed to the appropriate gateway based on which IP they arrived on.
-Ross
But I have 2 physical network cards, on 2 different networks. Should they not both have default routes?
You would think so, but it will confuse the system so bad that traffic won't know where to go. The default route is the route that packets need to take to leave your network to enter the outside world. Every thing under your control should have static routes of some kind, or a routing daemon.
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Jason Pyeron wrote:
Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
Sorry for the top post.
The default route is the route applied when no other route matches the destination IP. From that how would you figure out which default route to pick, only if the routes were weighted could you pick between two.
If you had two routes with equal weight and the traffic went round robin between them then the originating host will discard half the returning traffic because it's not coming from the same ip it sent it to.
No your best bet is probably to do reverse NAT'ing as it is simple to setup and you don't have to worry about default routes and weight. Traffic initiates on 1 gateway and sticks with it for the duration of the session. You can use BGP on the gateways outside interface to load balance or fail-over the default gateway or use round-robin DNS, MX records for mail, etc.
-Ross
Okay, they were weighted primay at 0 and it worked. Secondary at 20, it would never be chosen as a default. But how does a reply get out to the net on the same route it came in on?
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Ah, but it doesn't if you don't masquerade the IP as coming from the originating gateway or you make sure you have only 1 gateway functioning at a time with some routing protocol telling your internal hosts which route is active. For multiple gateways active at once you will need to masquerade so the traffic can use the internal network routing tables to assure traffic goes back out the way it came in.
-Ross
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