Hi, I would like to try to switch from CentOS 3.4 => CentOS 4 beta.
I hava a couple of questions:
-is possible to upadte/upgrade my test box from 3.4 => 4 and what are the yum.conf settings/requirements?
-is it easy to update your CentOS 4 beta => CentOS 4 when the stable version comes out?
Thanks in advance!
Hmmm..tried to install the centos-release rpm and updated my yum.conf with the one from Johnny Hughes. yum update: Resolving dependencies .Package clamav needs libcurl.so.2, this is not available. Package clamd needs libcurl.so.2, this is not available. Package clamav-milter needs libcurl.so.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-mouse needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-keyboard needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-language needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-rootpassword needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-kickstart needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-securitylevel needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-samba needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-nfs needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-soundcard needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-users needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-date needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package imap needs libcom_err.so.3, this is not available. Package clamav needs libcom_err.so.3, this is not available. Package clamd needs libcom_err.so.3, this is not available. Package clamav-milter needs libcom_err.so.3, this is not available.
Is there a fix for this? I don't like the thought of removing my Clamav packages :(
Thanks in advance.
Michiel van Es
Michiel van Es wrote:
Hi, I would like to try to switch from CentOS 3.4 => CentOS 4 beta.
I hava a couple of questions:
-is possible to upadte/upgrade my test box from 3.4 => 4 and what are the yum.conf settings/requirements?
-is it easy to update your CentOS 4 beta => CentOS 4 when the stable version comes out?
Thanks in advance!
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 12:12 +0100, Michiel van Es wrote:
Hmmm..tried to install the centos-release rpm and updated my yum.conf with the one from Johnny Hughes. yum update: Resolving dependencies .Package clamav needs libcurl.so.2, this is not available. Package clamd needs libcurl.so.2, this is not available. Package clamav-milter needs libcurl.so.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-mouse needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-keyboard needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-language needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-rootpassword needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-kickstart needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-securitylevel needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-samba needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-nfs needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-soundcard needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-users needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package redhat-config-date needs /usr/bin/python2.2, this is not available. Package imap needs libcom_err.so.3, this is not available. Package clamav needs libcom_err.so.3, this is not available. Package clamd needs libcom_err.so.3, this is not available. Package clamav-milter needs libcom_err.so.3, this is not available.
Is there a fix for this? I don't like the thought of removing my Clamav packages :(
You need to run 'yum upgrade' not 'yum update' but clamav may simply not be available to install w/o having an update for it, too.
-sv
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 11:25 +0100, Michiel van Es wrote:
Hi, I would like to try to switch from CentOS 3.4 => CentOS 4 beta.
I hava a couple of questions:
-is possible to upadte/upgrade my test box from 3.4 => 4 and what are the yum.conf settings/requirements?
I tried with yum, it didn't work out very well. Since python and rpm have major upgrades in the process it doesn't go well. I was able to get the upgrade done, but the end result was not as user friendly as I would like.
-is it easy to update your CentOS 4 beta => CentOS 4 when the stable version comes out?
When I used anaconda the results were much better. At the first isolinux prompt, type the command:
linux upgradeany
And then pick upgrade the CentOS install.
This method worked OK for 4 test installs that I upgraded. (x86 workstation, x86 server, x86_64 workstation, x86_64 server).
So, my recommendation, use anaconda and not yum to do the upgrade.
I expect the RHEL final to be released soon...they have removed all the files from the RHN RHEL4 Beta Channels. That is exactly what they did before the last release of RHEL 3. You might want to wait unless this is a test machine.
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 11:25 +0100, Michiel van Es wrote:
Hi, I would like to try to switch from CentOS 3.4 => CentOS 4 beta.
I hava a couple of questions:
-is possible to upadte/upgrade my test box from 3.4 => 4 and what are the yum.conf settings/requirements?
I tried with yum, it didn't work out very well. Since python and rpm have major upgrades in the process it doesn't go well. I was able to get the upgrade done, but the end result was not as user friendly as I would like.
so I noticed :(
-is it easy to update your CentOS 4 beta => CentOS 4 when the stable version comes out?
When I used anaconda the results were much better. At the first isolinux prompt, type the command:
linux upgradeany
And then pick upgrade the CentOS install.
This method worked OK for 4 test installs that I upgraded. (x86 workstation, x86 server, x86_64 workstation, x86_64 server).
So, my recommendation, use anaconda and not yum to do the upgrade.
I expect the RHEL final to be released soon...they have removed all the files from the RHN RHEL4 Beta Channels. That is exactly what they did before the last release of RHEL 3. You might want to wait unless this is a test machine.
Well..perhaps it is better to switch to the Final then..but will the upgrade to 4 Final be much better with yum then the 4 beta?
Michiel
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 12:35 +0100, Michiel van Es wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 11:25 +0100, Michiel van Es wrote:
Hi, I would like to try to switch from CentOS 3.4 => CentOS 4 beta.
I hava a couple of questions:
-is possible to upadte/upgrade my test box from 3.4 => 4 and what are the yum.conf settings/requirements?
I tried with yum, it didn't work out very well. Since python and rpm have major upgrades in the process it doesn't go well. I was able to get the upgrade done, but the end result was not as user friendly as I would like.
so I noticed :(
-is it easy to update your CentOS 4 beta => CentOS 4 when the stable version comes out?
When I used anaconda the results were much better. At the first isolinux prompt, type the command:
linux upgradeany
And then pick upgrade the CentOS install.
This method worked OK for 4 test installs that I upgraded. (x86 workstation, x86 server, x86_64 workstation, x86_64 server).
So, my recommendation, use anaconda and not yum to do the upgrade.
I expect the RHEL final to be released soon...they have removed all the files from the RHN RHEL4 Beta Channels. That is exactly what they did before the last release of RHEL 3. You might want to wait unless this is a test machine.
Well..perhaps it is better to switch to the Final then..but will the upgrade to 4 Final be much better with yum then the 4 beta?
I'm not sure if the yum upgrade will be any easier ... but we can detail a procedure to do it. But as I said before, the anaconda upgrade was much more user friendly, and it had more consistent final results (only CentOS-4 packages, not as many stray CentOS-3 things left over, etc.)
Johnny Hughes
Michiel van Es wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 11:25 +0100, Michiel van Es wrote:
Hi, I would like to try to switch from CentOS 3.4 => CentOS 4 beta.
You might want to keep in mind that this upgrade is not really a good idea, since there are packages that have changed ( imapd for eg. ) - and any straight yum-like upgrade will leave behind orphaned apps from the 3.x tree.
Well..perhaps it is better to switch to the Final then..but will the upgrade to 4 Final be much better with yum then the 4 beta?
Unlikely, the best approach is still going to be to use Anaconda, as Johnny has said.
- KB
Unlikely, the best approach is still going to be to use Anaconda, as Johnny has said.
There's another good reason to anaconda-upgrade - the kernel changes that go on mean a lot of various disk things have moved around, too. Like selinux settings and lvm type has gone from lvm1 to lvm2 - this requires some edits to your partitions. Yum doesn't do these changes b/c, well, it's not what yum does.
-sv
seth vidal wrote:
Unlikely, the best approach is still going to be to use Anaconda, as Johnny has said.
There's another good reason to anaconda-upgrade - the kernel changes that go on mean a lot of various disk things have moved around, too. Like selinux settings and lvm type has gone from lvm1 to lvm2 - this requires some edits to your partitions. Yum doesn't do these changes b/c, well, it's not what yum does.
-sv
But not all sysadmins have 1-2-3 access to their servers (esp. if it is a colocated box..) So for those poor people there is no option to upgrade?
Michiel
On Monday, 17 January 2005, at 15:26:02 (+0100), Michiel van Es wrote:
But not all sysadmins have 1-2-3 access to their servers (esp. if it is a colocated box..) So for those poor people there is no option to upgrade?
I recommend careful perusal of the following:
http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2004-December/000477.html http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2004-December/000478.html
I successfully yum upgraded my laptop from CentOS 3.3 to CentOS 4 beta, so it can be done. Just pray real hard your system doesn't crash in the middle.
Michael
Michael Jennings wrote:
On Monday, 17 January 2005, at 15:26:02 (+0100), Michiel van Es wrote:
But not all sysadmins have 1-2-3 access to their servers (esp. if it is a colocated box..) So for those poor people there is no option to upgrade?
I recommend careful perusal of the following:
http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2004-December/000477.html http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2004-December/000478.html
I successfully yum upgraded my laptop from CentOS 3.3 to CentOS 4 beta, so it can be done. Just pray real hard your system doesn't crash in the middle.
Hmm 'Remove all 2.4 kernel packages.' is there a simple command rpm -e "all packages" kinda thing or can just do this: rpm -e `rpm -qa`
Michael
Michiel
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 15:26 +0100, Michiel van Es wrote:
seth vidal wrote:
Unlikely, the best approach is still going to be to use Anaconda, as Johnny has said.
There's another good reason to anaconda-upgrade - the kernel changes that go on mean a lot of various disk things have moved around, too. Like selinux settings and lvm type has gone from lvm1 to lvm2 - this requires some edits to your partitions. Yum doesn't do these changes b/c, well, it's not what yum does.
-sv
But not all sysadmins have 1-2-3 access to their servers (esp. if it is a colocated box..)
Well you can always do an anaconda install over vnc. That's what I do.
So for those poor people there is no option to upgrade?
no, you can do a yum upgrade and you might need to piece-meal through it a bit - but it should be able to get you there.
-sv
seth vidal wrote:
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 15:26 +0100, Michiel van Es wrote:
seth vidal wrote:
Unlikely, the best approach is still going to be to use Anaconda, as Johnny has said.
There's another good reason to anaconda-upgrade - the kernel changes that go on mean a lot of various disk things have moved around, too. Like selinux settings and lvm type has gone from lvm1 to lvm2 - this requires some edits to your partitions. Yum doesn't do these changes b/c, well, it's not what yum does.
-sv
But not all sysadmins have 1-2-3 access to their servers (esp. if it is a colocated box..)
Well you can always do an anaconda install over vnc. That's what I do.
Hey..that's a good idea :)
So for those poor people there is no option to upgrade?
no, you can do a yum upgrade and you might need to piece-meal through it a bit - but it should be able to get you there.
Tried that but I got some glibc and glibc-common errors. I am doing a linux upgradeany when I am at the NOC..
Thanks!
-sv
Michiel
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Quoting seth vidal skvidal@phy.duke.edu:
Well you can always do an anaconda install over vnc. That's what I do.
/action googles for installing redhat over vnc
Thats pretty cool, I guess you still need a server that supports console redirection for the boot prompt. But neat nevertheless.
Any gotchas I should watch out for?
Thanks,
-- Tom Seeley
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 19:36 +0000, Tom Seeley wrote:
Quoting seth vidal skvidal@phy.duke.edu:
Well you can always do an anaconda install over vnc. That's what I do.
/action googles for installing redhat over vnc
Thats pretty cool, I guess you still need a server that supports console redirection for the boot prompt. But neat nevertheless.
Sure, or reliable pxe booting.
Any gotchas I should watch out for?
not that I can remember. -sv
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Michiel van Es wrote:
I would like to try to switch from CentOS 3.4 => CentOS 4 beta.
This is not the 'RHEL 4 => CentOS 4' which your subject indicated; A daring move -- I am still getting kernel lockups when running X under the centos-4-beta2 candidate
-is possible to upadte/upgrade my test box from 3.4 => 4 and what are the yum.conf settings/requirements?
This is not fully tested yet -- For testing purposes, I have the beta ISO's loop mounted in a local mirror archive and point my yum.conf at that local archive. See my scripts at: ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/mirror/ORC/k12ltsp and particularly install-from-iso.sh and the writeup on their use at: http://www.owlriver.com/tips/pxe-install/ and the more general treatment at: http://www.owlriver.com/tips/centos-31-ex-rhl-9/
-is it easy to update your CentOS 4 beta => CentOS 4 when the stable version comes out?
<smile> This would be predicting hte future, of course; it is doable presently with the latter page's method. 'easy' is a value judgment.
Good luck -- feel free to ask questions and share expereinces here.
-- Russ Herrold
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