Hi,
I have a client that is looking for an solution to do bandwidth monitoring and traffic shapping. I would like to use Centos if possible, but I need somthing that has a GUI so they can easily make changes and updates. It would have to be ip based or mac address.
What would you suggest. I have looked a Ipcop and smoothwall as solutions so far.
Thanks
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 10:17 -0700, Mace Eliason wrote:
Hi,
I have a client that is looking for an solution to do bandwidth monitoring and traffic shapping. I would like to use Centos if possible, but I need somthing that has a GUI so they can easily make changes and updates. It would have to be ip based or mac address.
What would you suggest. I have looked a Ipcop and smoothwall as solutions so far.
For monitoring ntop is pretty good.
I don't know of any prepackaged distributions but this web site has good explanations of what's going on under the covers on linux.
i agree with the other person who said ntop is good for monitoring.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 10:17:50AM -0700, Mace Eliason wrote:
Hi,
I have a client that is looking for an solution to do bandwidth monitoring and traffic shapping. I would like to use Centos if possible, but I need somthing that has a GUI so they can easily make changes and updates. It would have to be ip based or mac address.
What would you suggest. I have looked a Ipcop and smoothwall as solutions so far.
Thanks _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
danno -- dan pritts - systems administrator - internet2 734/352-4953 office 734/834-7224 mobile
http://www.m0n0.ch/wall/features.php
On Saturday 25 February 2006 12:17 pm, Mace Eliason wrote:
Hi,
I have a client that is looking for an solution to do bandwidth monitoring and traffic shapping. I would like to use Centos if possible, but I need somthing that has a GUI so they can easily make changes and updates. It would have to be ip based or mac address.
What would you suggest. I have looked a Ipcop and smoothwall as solutions so far.
Thanks _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
http://pfSense.com works nicely for me, it's derived from the m0n0wall.
It has nice GUI with traffic graphs and more, it should also be able to do traffic shapping, but I havent used that myself yet.
ryan sagde:
http://www.m0n0.ch/wall/features.php
On Saturday 25 February 2006 12:17 pm, Mace Eliason wrote:
Hi,
I have a client that is looking for an solution to do bandwidth monitoring and traffic shapping. I would like to use Centos if possible, but I need somthing that has a GUI so they can easily make changes and updates. It would have to be ip based or mac address.
What would you suggest. I have looked a Ipcop and smoothwall as solutions so far.
Thanks _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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ryan wrote:
Agreed. Put it on a Soekris 4501 for the most perfect solution ever.
On 2/25/06, Chris Mason (Lists) lists@masonc.com wrote:
ryan wrote:
Agreed. Put it on a Soekris 4501 for the most perfect solution ever.
I was not aware of Soekris... looks interesting. Anyone have performance stats on typical throughput for the 4501?
hkclark@gmail.com wrote:
I was not aware of Soekris... looks interesting. Anyone have performance stats on typical throughput for the 4501? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
A comment I found on the m0n0wall list about similar hardware may be accurate enough:
"4.4 MBps is around 35 Mbps, which is about the max throughput of a WRAP. It's only a 266 MHz, sub $200 USD box."
I can see that it does traffic shaping but will it do bandwidth limiting by ip?
Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
hkclark@gmail.com wrote:
I was not aware of Soekris... looks interesting. Anyone have performance stats on typical throughput for the 4501? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
A comment I found on the m0n0wall list about similar hardware may be accurate enough:
"4.4 MBps is around 35 Mbps, which is about the max throughput of a WRAP. It's only a 266 MHz, sub $200 USD box."
I limit by IP by marking the packet using iptables and then using cbq classes for shaping.
HTH Oliver
Mace Eliason wrote:
I can see that it does traffic shaping but will it do bandwidth limiting by ip?
Hi Mace, I talked to Karel from: http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/Soekris.html and the latency is normal as in a PC server.
About the bandwidth, maybe you can buy this one: http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm based on a 266Mhz AMD Geode
HTH Oliver
Mace Eliason wrote:
I can see that it does traffic shaping but will it do bandwidth limiting by ip?
Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
hkclark@gmail.com wrote:
I was not aware of Soekris... looks interesting. Anyone have performance stats on typical throughput for the 4501? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
A comment I found on the m0n0wall list about similar hardware may be accurate enough:
"4.4 MBps is around 35 Mbps, which is about the max throughput of a WRAP. It's only a 266 MHz, sub $200 USD box."
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Mr Eliason,
Look for HTB or CBQ
CBQ http://sp9wun.republika.pl/linux/shaperd_cbq_en_old.html
HTB http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/ http://www.linux.com/howtos/Traffic-Control-tcng-HTB-HOWTO/index.shtml
I think this can help you
regards,
Oliver Schulze L. escreveu:
Hi Mace, I talked to Karel from: http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/Soekris.html and the latency is normal as in a PC server.
About the bandwidth, maybe you can buy this one: http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm based on a 266Mhz AMD Geode
HTH Oliver
Mace Eliason wrote:
I can see that it does traffic shaping but will it do bandwidth limiting by ip?
Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
hkclark@gmail.com wrote:
I was not aware of Soekris... looks interesting. Anyone have performance stats on typical throughput for the 4501? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
A comment I found on the m0n0wall list about similar hardware may be accurate enough:
"4.4 MBps is around 35 Mbps, which is about the max throughput of a WRAP. It's only a 266 MHz, sub $200 USD box."
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Not scientific, but here you go:
LAN Clients: 4 laptops, 1 vongage ATA
Traffic Load: 3 laptops running bittorrent with popular torrents, one uploading large ftp file. 1 Vonage call
WAN Link: 1 Mbps DSL (max uplink)
CPU: Never went over 60%, Vonage call stayed clear.
Traffic Shaping rules: About 30. Vonage (5060-5061) traffic was prioritized.
On Saturday 25 February 2006 9:00 pm, hkclark@gmail.com wrote:
I was not aware of Soekris... looks interesting. Anyone have performance stats on typical throughput for the 4501? _______________________________________________
Wow, thanks for that link. The soekris hardware look very interesting.
So, having a soekris hardware or a PC as a your router allows you to shape both NICs? The Internet NIC and your Intranet NIC?
Thanks Oliver
Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
ryan wrote:
Agreed. Put it on a Soekris 4501 for the most perfect solution ever.
Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
Wow, thanks for that link. The soekris hardware look very interesting.
So, having a soekris hardware or a PC as a your router allows you to shape both NICs? The Internet NIC and your Intranet NIC?
I think my only real concern with that appliance (nifty box, BTW) would be how much traffic it could handle before being saturated and/or adding significant latency. With small form factor pc's so cheap, unless you have extremely restrictive space, power requirements or budget, it might be somewhat limiting. I've seen SFF cases/motherboards that can handle P4/Athlon64 systems that aren't much bigger than a child's lunchbox. They're not even that expensive.
Cheers,
The bandwidth is specifyied in the page of soekris and should work for you, but I don't know about the latency. Anyone has experience with soekris?
Oliver
Chris Mauritz wrote:
Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
Wow, thanks for that link. The soekris hardware look very interesting.
So, having a soekris hardware or a PC as a your router allows you to shape both NICs? The Internet NIC and your Intranet NIC?
I think my only real concern with that appliance (nifty box, BTW) would be how much traffic it could handle before being saturated and/or adding significant latency. With small form factor pc's so cheap, unless you have extremely restrictive space, power requirements or budget, it might be somewhat limiting. I've seen SFF cases/motherboards that can handle P4/Athlon64 systems that aren't much bigger than a child's lunchbox. They're not even that expensive.
Cheers,
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 10:57:29AM -0300, Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
Wow, thanks for that link. The soekris hardware look very interesting.
So, having a soekris hardware or a PC as a your router allows you to shape both NICs? The Internet NIC and your Intranet NIC?
Yup. Be aware though that the shaping you do is OUTBOUND. This is fine for your uplink, it's what you want.
It won't solve all potential problems with your downlink - the fact that you shape before things get to the end station is useful, but if the stream isn't using TCP it won't stop your downlink from getting hammered.
danno -- dan pritts - systems administrator - internet2 734/352-4953 office 734/834-7224 mobile
Thanks for all the replys and I have been checking out all your suggestions. I guess though I still have not found exactly what I am looking for. The client I have want's to become an ISP and needs tools to monitor bandwidth usage, as well as set how much bandwidth each of their clients gets for example 1.5Mbs. Also if they get close to the download limite it needs to be able to email them say their limit it 10Gig / month. I guess what I really need is an ISP tool kit.
Something I have found is www.PowerNOC.net
Thanks
Dan Pritts wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 10:57:29AM -0300, Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
Wow, thanks for that link. The soekris hardware look very interesting.
So, having a soekris hardware or a PC as a your router allows you to shape both NICs? The Internet NIC and your Intranet NIC?
Yup. Be aware though that the shaping you do is OUTBOUND. This is fine for your uplink, it's what you want.
It won't solve all potential problems with your downlink - the fact that you shape before things get to the end station is useful, but if the stream isn't using TCP it won't stop your downlink from getting hammered.
danno
dan pritts - systems administrator - internet2 734/352-4953 office 734/834-7224 mobile _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 08:41 -0700, Mace Eliason wrote:
Thanks for all the replys and I have been checking out all your suggestions. I guess though I still have not found exactly what I am looking for. The client I have want's to become an ISP and needs tools to monitor bandwidth usage, as well as set how much bandwidth each of their clients gets for example 1.5Mbs. Also if they get close to the download limite it needs to be able to email them say their limit it 10Gig / month. I guess what I really need is an ISP tool kit.
Something I have found is www.PowerNOC.net
You should be looking at higher end Cisco gear if you want to become an ISP. Kludging some low end systems together either won't scale very well or will not provide the performance you want.
Mace Eliason wrote:
Thanks for all the replys and I have been checking out all your suggestions. I guess though I still have not found exactly what I am looking for. The client I have want's to become an ISP and needs tools to monitor bandwidth usage, as well as set how much bandwidth each of their clients gets for example 1.5Mbs. Also if they get close to the download limite it needs to be able to email them say their limit it 10Gig / month. I guess what I really need is an ISP tool kit.
Sounds like you need a router.