Hey folks,
I'm trying to compare my small company's policy against other companies out there. We pay 10% of your per-hour salary equivalent per every hour you carry it, whether it goes off or not. So for example someone making $55K/year works out to about $27 / hour (I think), so they'd get $2.70 for every hour they carry the pager outside of regular work hours. We are a company of about 25 people.
My old employer Nortel still does it this way : - $27.50 for every 8 hour shift you carry it, outside of regular work hours. - any page is billed at time-and-a-half, minimum 1 hour billed - any page requiring you to go into work, is billed at time-and-a-half with a 3 hour min
I have a buddy at IBM and while it varies by group, his group does this : - $30/day for carrying it, whether it goes off or not - every page gets billed at time-and-a-half, minimum 30 minutes
Anyone else want to share theirs?
thanks, -Alan
Hi.
Hey folks,
I'm trying to compare my small company's policy against other companies out there. We pay 10% of your per-hour salary equivalent per every hour you carry it, whether it goes off or not. So for example someone making $55K/year works out to about $27 / hour (I think), so they'd get $2.70 for every hour they carry the pager outside of regular work hours. We are a company of about 25 people.
My old employer Nortel still does it this way :
- $27.50 for every 8 hour shift you carry it, outside of regular work
hours.
<snip> Back in the mid-nineties, I worked for Ameritech, a Baby Bell. I was salaried. Extra pay for carrying it? Ha. HA. Hahahahahaha....
mark 24x7x365.25 (except for the couple months I carried two...)
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 12:28, Alan McKay wrote:
Hey folks,
I'm trying to compare my small company's policy against other companies out there. We pay 10% of your per-hour salary equivalent per every hour you carry it, whether it goes off or not. So for example someone making $55K/year works out to about $27 / hour (I think), so they'd get $2.70 for every hour they carry the pager outside of regular work hours. We are a company of about 25 people.
My old employer Nortel still does it this way :
- $27.50 for every 8 hour shift you carry it, outside of regular work
hours. - any page is billed at time-and-a-half, minimum 1 hour billed
- any page requiring you to go into work, is billed at time-and-a-half
with a 3 hour min
I have a buddy at IBM and while it varies by group, his group does this :
- $30/day for carrying it, whether it goes off or not
- every page gets billed at time-and-a-half, minimum 30 minutes
Anyone else want to share theirs?
thanks, -Alan
Pager pay, whatever you get is gravy.
Alan McKay wrote:
Anyone else want to share theirs?
I don't get on call, but my company pays my text messaging plan on my cell phone each month, since it's used as my pager. It's about $10 a month.
Our policy for call outs are as follows:
If I have to come into the office, I get a minimum call out time of 2 hours, regardless if I'm here for 15 minutes or 2 hours. If that time falls on a Friday (I work normal Monday to Thursday 10 hour days), anything on Friday until midnight is time and a half pay. If the call out time is past 11:59 p.m. on Friday, until 6:00 a.m. Monday morning, then I get double time pay. There's some comp time rules in there too, but I rarely use it.
I have OpenVPN access from home or anywhere else. If I can fix the problem from home without having to come in, I don't get the call out minimum time of 2 hours. I only get paid the OT of the time I worked on the problem. I same rules apply for pay with the time and a half and double time scheme as above.
Regards, Max
Like Max I don't have "pager pay" but I do get paid for call outs.
My phone is fully paid for (approx $60/m) and call outs are paid at time and a half (Sunday is double time), minimum one hour. All travel time is considered call out time and mileage is eligible for $0.50/km.
I'm on call 7am to 9pm Mon-Sat and I usually work 7am-5pm Mon-Fri.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:02:26PM -0700, Drew wrote:
Like Max I don't have "pager pay" but I do get paid for call outs.
My phone is fully paid for (approx $60/m) and call outs are paid at time and a half (Sunday is double time), minimum one hour. All travel time is considered call out time and mileage is eligible for $0.50/km.
I'm on call 7am to 9pm Mon-Sat and I usually work 7am-5pm Mon-Fri.
For goodness sake keep a log. "On call" jobs often violate state and federal rules for exempt and non-exmpt status. Mileage for the second trip to the office should be compensated in some cases.
The reason for a log is multi-fold the most important one is at review time but also in the case of a "restructuring" ;-).
In some cases the key is the nature of the leash. If they restrict your travel or lifestyle there may be a problem. You cannot travel down the road three hours to watch your kid play sports. Or if they restrict you from having a beer or make it impossible to go ice fishing....
If you fix it over the phone or Internet but do not get 'paid'. s Most of the issues have surfaced with nurses and other health care folk but if you are IT at a hospital and your on-call comp plan is widely different from other professionals -- pay attention.
For goodness sake keep a log. "On call" jobs often violate state and federal rules for exempt and non-exmpt status. Mileage for the second trip to the office should be compensated in some cases.
I've checked with our Provincial & Federal laws and our "Pager Pay" setup is legal. It should also be noted I'm salaried w/ banked OT and it's my call what shifts and/or how much extra time I work.
In some cases the key is the nature of the leash. If they restrict your travel or lifestyle there may be a problem.
I do keep a log, and get it signed off on by our General Manager. In our company I am the IT department so ultimately, I have to deal with the problems anyways. My general rule of thumb is that unless it's a showstopper, I'll wait till Monday to deal with it, at which point it's back on the regular clock. And when I do go out of town, my office just has to grin and bear it till I get back.
Alan McKay wrote:
Hey folks,
I'm trying to compare my small company's policy against other companies out there. We pay 10% of your per-hour salary equivalent per every hour you carry it, whether it goes off or not. So for example someone making $55K/year works out to about $27 / hour (I think), so they'd get $2.70 for every hour they carry the pager outside of regular work hours. We are a company of about 25 people.
My old employer Nortel still does it this way :
- $27.50 for every 8 hour shift you carry it, outside of regular work hours
I'd say really depends on how much work the pager involves, how often your paged and how much time you spend responding to such pages.
A company I worked at two jobs ago had pager pay, they tiered it per tier. Pager duty was absolutely brutal, you could easily get 100+ pages a week. I think the average pay was something like $150/week extra for carrying it. I got something like $250/week since I was the lone tier 3 person. There was about 140 people at the time I left.
My last company and my current one don't compensate for pager duty, both places the load is very light, my current company has a dedicated 24/7 NOC type setup, so as a tier 3 person(or maybe tier 4 who knows) I get called maybe twice a month. I am technically on call 24/7/365, but if I don't answer they just escalate to somebody else.
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