I'm asking here because it is the best resource I know for knowledgeable people. The problem in question occurs on my Fedora 9 box and Fedora 10 netbook, while another person, Chris, has the problem on a Mandriva 2009 box. Whatever is causing it, that leads me to think that it's not distro-specific. Both of us are using kmail.
Kgpg sees and lists all the keys on my keyring. Setting up cryptography for kmail on the boxes in question is where the problem lies. KMail does not appear to be seeing the keyrings. When you try to select your key, the list is empty. If you type in the key ID and ask it to fetch the keys you get an endless back and forward progress bar.
As an experiment, on my F10 netbook I renamed the ~/.gnupg folder and recreated it by logging in. I did not copy my keyrings across. I then asked for my key to be imported, and that completed correctly. I then turned to KMail, but still my key could not be seen or used.
I think that that experiment rules out any possibility that I had introduced the problem by copying in config files and keyrings from previous versions.
Can anyone suggest further lines of enquiry? Thanks
Anne
Anne Wilson cannewilson@googlemail.com wrote:
[snip] Fedora 9 [snip] Fedora 10 [snip] Mandriva 2009 [snip] Can anyone suggest further lines of enquiry? Thanks
http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?q=linux+forums
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 19:54 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'm asking here because it is the best resource I know for knowledgeable people. The problem in question occurs on my Fedora 9 box and Fedora 10 netbook, while another person, Chris, has the problem on a Mandriva 2009 box. Whatever is causing it, that leads me to think that it's not distro-specific. Both of us are using kmail.
Kgpg sees and lists all the keys on my keyring. Setting up cryptography for kmail on the boxes in question is where the problem lies. KMail does not appear to be seeing the keyrings. When you try to select your key, the list is empty. If you type in the key ID and ask it to fetch the keys you get an endless back and forward progress bar.
As an experiment, on my F10 netbook I renamed the ~/.gnupg folder and recreated it by logging in. I did not copy my keyrings across. I then asked for my key to be imported, and that completed correctly. I then turned to KMail, but still my key could not be seen or used.
I dont use KDE but I would really think your Key ID has to be in the Mail Client itself. There should be a place for it. Use gpg on the commandline. See man gpg.
JohnStanley
I think that that experiment rules out any possibility that I had introduced the problem by copying in config files and keyrings from previous versions.
Can anyone suggest further lines of enquiry? Thanks
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On Monday 05 January 2009 15:35:29 JohnS wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 19:54 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'm asking here because it is the best resource I know for knowledgeable people. The problem in question occurs on my Fedora 9 box and Fedora 10 netbook, while another person, Chris, has the problem on a Mandriva 2009 box. Whatever is causing it, that leads me to think that it's not distro-specific. Both of us are using kmail.
Kgpg sees and lists all the keys on my keyring. Setting up cryptography for kmail on the boxes in question is where the problem lies. KMail does not appear to be seeing the keyrings. When you try to select your key, the list is empty. If you type in the key ID and ask it to fetch the keys you get an endless back and forward progress bar.
As an experiment, on my F10 netbook I renamed the ~/.gnupg folder and recreated it by logging in. I did not copy my keyrings across. I then asked for my key to be imported, and that completed correctly. I then turned to KMail, but still my key could not be seen or used.
I dont use KDE but I would really think your Key ID has to be in the Mail Client itself. There should be a place for it. Use gpg on the commandline. See man gpg.
I need gpg to work with kmail - and it does on most of the boxes I've set up. For some reason, though, on my two Fedora boxes and Chris's Mandriva box kmail will not associate with the gpg keys. There's no way that I can see that this can be set up manually - unless it is written into an rc file. I'll investigate that possibility.
I think that that experiment rules out any possibility that I had introduced the problem by copying in config files and keyrings from previous versions.
Can anyone suggest further lines of enquiry? Thanks
Anne
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 16:36 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 05 January 2009 15:35:29 JohnS wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 19:54 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'm asking here because it is the best resource I know for knowledgeable people. The problem in question occurs on my Fedora 9 box and Fedora 10 netbook, while another person, Chris, has the problem on a Mandriva 2009 box. Whatever is causing it, that leads me to think that it's not distro-specific. Both of us are using kmail.
Kgpg sees and lists all the keys on my keyring. Setting up cryptography for kmail on the boxes in question is where the problem lies. KMail does not appear to be seeing the keyrings. When you try to select your key, the list is empty. If you type in the key ID and ask it to fetch the keys you get an endless back and forward progress bar.
As an experiment, on my F10 netbook I renamed the ~/.gnupg folder and recreated it by logging in. I did not copy my keyrings across. I then asked for my key to be imported, and that completed correctly. I then turned to KMail, but still my key could not be seen or used.
I dont use KDE but I would really think your Key ID has to be in the Mail Client itself. There should be a place for it. Use gpg on the commandline. See man gpg.
I need gpg to work with kmail - and it does on most of the boxes I've set up. For some reason, though, on my two Fedora boxes and Chris's Mandriva box kmail will not associate with the gpg keys. There's no way that I can see that this can be set up manually - unless it is written into an rc file. I'll investigate that possibility.
http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/gnupg-kmail.php
For BSD but should be similiar in steps. Check it out or search kde.org
I think that that experiment rules out any possibility that I had introduced the problem by copying in config files and keyrings from previous versions.
Can anyone suggest further lines of enquiry? Thanks
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On Monday 05 January 2009 17:09:43 JohnS wrote:
http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/gnupg-kmail.php
For BSD but should be similiar in steps. Check it out or search kde.org
Hi, John, thanks for answering. Yes, it's a good how-to, but I've done all this dozens of times by now without running into the current problem. I do know exactly how to set it up - it's just not possible on any of the 3 systems I mentioned. There is some obscure bug that probably interacts with something else to cause this - it's certainly not normal behaviour.
I've talked to several people with quite deep knowledge of KMail (over a period of 8 months), yet no-one could tell me why this occurs. In fact, until Chris contacted me about his problem on a Mandriva install I had thought that the bug was only in the Fedora package. Now it seems that it may not be.
Anne
Anne Wilson wrote:
There is some obscure bug that probably interacts with something else to cause this - it's certainly not normal behaviour.
I've talked to several people with quite deep knowledge of KMail (over a period of 8 months), yet no-one could tell me why this occurs. In fact, until Chris contacted me about his problem on a Mandriva install I had thought that the bug was only in the Fedora package. Now it seems that it may not be.
Have you thought of going to the upstream mailing list of gpg or kmail and asking there? If the "problem" is not distro-specific it is likely to have been met by someone upstream.
It would also be worth giving the Fedora/Mandriva lists a look to see if the problem has been reported there. If the problem has not been reported upstream or in those distros then it is likely to be something you have done.
Regards, Vandaman. ------------------------------------------------------- Your average reporting time is: 4 hours; Great! noob detector -> 3 noobs top posting.
On Monday 05 January 2009 20:27:48 Vandaman wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
There is some obscure bug that probably interacts with something else to cause this - it's certainly not normal behaviour.
I've talked to several people with quite deep knowledge of KMail (over a period of 8 months), yet no-one could tell me why this occurs. In fact, until Chris contacted me about his problem on a Mandriva install I had thought that the bug was only in the Fedora package. Now it seems that it may not be.
Have you thought of going to the upstream mailing list of gpg or kmail and asking there? If the "problem" is not distro-specific it is likely to have been met by someone upstream.
It would also be worth giving the Fedora/Mandriva lists a look to see if the problem has been reported there. If the problem has not been reported upstream or in those distros then it is likely to be something you have done.
Yes, I've discussed it on both Fedora and Mandriva lists. I think it's the old problem of intermittant faults being difficult to pinpoint. As I said, I've done many, many installs and setups of kmail + gpg, yet never met this problem until F9, and I can't see any difference between the setup there and the setup on this laptop where it works, so it's not surprising that people haven't seen it.
The only gpg ML I found was PGP-Basics@yahoogroups.com. I can't help feeling that there should be a better list than that. Maybe I hit bad timing. I'll try them again.
Anne
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