This isn't specifically about cent os, but I am running cent os on this machine. I've got a Dell Dimension 2400 desktop pc. I've tried on a number of occasions to put a second hard drive in the machine, but I can't get the machine to recognize the second drive in BIOS. I'm going to try and keep this short and sweet. I've tried all that I know to try. I've set the jumpers on the drives to master and slave, I've tried setting the jumpers to cable select. I've changed the IDE ribbon cable. As far as I know, I've done all the trouble shooting steps that you'd do when having this problem. The only conclusion I can come up with, is that it's the BIOS. The one thing I haven't done is flash the BIOS, and I'm reluctant to do that. One other thing that I did try, was on the secondary IDE, I tried connecting a second CD drive, and the BIOS would not see it either. The machine will only see the drives that are connected to what would be the Master drive connection on the ribbon cable. Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Jim
2011/4/5 Jimmy Bradley bmobile40@ocellaris.net:
This isn't specifically about cent os, but I am running cent os on this machine. I've got a Dell Dimension 2400 desktop pc. I've tried on a number of occasions to put a second hard drive in the machine, but I can't get the machine to recognize the second drive in BIOS. I'm going to try and keep this short and sweet. I've tried all that I know to try. I've set the jumpers on the drives to master and slave, I've tried setting the jumpers to cable select. I've changed the IDE ribbon cable. As far as I know, I've done all the trouble shooting steps that you'd do when having this problem. The only conclusion I can come up with, is that it's the BIOS. The one thing I haven't done is flash the BIOS, and I'm reluctant to do that. One other thing that I did try, was on the secondary IDE, I tried connecting a second CD drive, and the BIOS would not see it either. The machine will only see the drives that are connected to what would be the Master drive connection on the ribbon cable. Anyone have any ideas?
Linux only uses bios for booting, so it is not needed on Linux.
for cabling ide in same cable: 1st driver for master jumper and second using slave jumper.
br, -- Eero, RHCE
Jimmy Bradley wrote:
This isn't specifically about cent os, but I am running cent os onthis machine. I've got a Dell Dimension 2400 desktop pc. I've tried on a number of occasions to put a second hard drive in the machine, but I can't get the machine to recognize the second drive in BIOS. I'm going to try and keep this short and sweet. I've tried all that I know to try. I've set the jumpers on the drives to master and slave, I've tried setting the jumpers to cable select. I've changed the IDE ribbon cable. As far as I know, I've done all the trouble shooting steps that you'd do when having this problem. The only conclusion I can come up with, is that it's the BIOS. The one thing I haven't done is flash the BIOS, and I'm reluctant to do that. One other thing that I did try, was on the secondary IDE, I tried connecting a second CD drive, and the BIOS would not see it either. The machine will only see the drives that are connected to what would be the Master drive connection on the ribbon cable. Anyone have any ideas?
Ok, old system, IDE drives. You *might* want to mouse around in the BIOS itself, and look for odd corners, such as if something's disabled. I mean, we have a few older servers that I had to disable an option that was explicitly (though it didn't say so) and exclusively for OS/2, and these servers ain't 10 years old.
mark
centos-bounces@centos.org wrote:
This isn't specifically about cent os,
<snip>
Anyone have any ideas?
Don't contact Dell with your CentOS questions, nor bring your Dell questions here ... ... You should either drink much more, or much less.
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2011/4/5 Brunner, Brian T. BBrunner@gai-tronics.com:
centos-bounces@centos.org wrote:
This isn't specifically about cent os,
<snip> > Anyone have any ideas?
Don't contact Dell with your CentOS questions, nor bring your Dell questions here ... ... You should either drink much more, or much less.
Anyway, external pci sata/ide card usually works and vodka with energy drink ;)
-- Eero
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Brunner, Brian T. BBrunner@gai-tronics.com wrote:
... You should either drink much more, or much less.
Was that comment really necessary? Maybe you should lay-off the pot a bit!
Rudi Ahlers wrote:
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Brunner, Brian T. BBrunner@gai-tronics.com wrote:
... You should either drink much more, or much less.
Was that comment really necessary? Maybe you should lay-off the pot a bit!
Hey, everyone needs to believe in something.
I believe I'll have another bheer....
mark
On 04/05/11 11:37 AM, Jimmy Bradley wrote:
This isn't specifically about cent os, but I am running cent os onthis machine. I've got a Dell Dimension 2400 desktop pc. I've tried on a number of occasions to put a second hard drive in the machine, but I can't get the machine to recognize the second drive in BIOS. I'm going to try and keep this short and sweet. I've tried all that I know to try. I've set the jumpers on the drives to master and slave, I've tried setting the jumpers to cable select. I've changed the IDE ribbon cable. As far as I know, I've done all the trouble shooting steps that you'd do when having this problem.
(Googles a bit) Ok, thats a Intel 845GV chipset[1], which supports UDMA100[2], so you must use 80 wire UDMA style IDE cables or get very unreliable results.
wow, thats some old chit.
With UDMA cables, they must be plugged in the correct way, the blue connector goes to the mainboard, the far end black connector goes to the 'master' (1st) drive, and the middle gray connector goes to the slave (2nd) drive. The drives should be jumpered as 'cable select' (but you /can/ use master/slave jumpering as LONG as they are connected in the correct order). The connectors should all be 'keyed' by a rectangular block molded on one side such that you can't plug them in the wrong way. There also should be a missing pin on the mobo and drives and a blocked pin on the cable that acts as a key. Both devices on the cable should be UDMA 100 capable, mixing older technology DMA33 stuff was bad news and resulted in all kinda funky behavior.
phew, [1] indicates that system has 2 dimm slots with support for 256M and 512M dimms (DDR SDRAM), onboard shared memory graphics, and only has one internal drive bay, and a 200 or 230W PSU. Pentium-4 w/ 400 or 533Mhz FSB so its probably Northwood generation, circa 2002. The CMOS battery is likely a ball of toxic green fuzz right now. Frankly, anything that old, when it starts misbehaving, its time for the recycle bin.
[1] http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/en/sm_en/specs.htm
[2] page 28 http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15210/eng/D845GVSR_TechProdSpec.pdf http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15210/eng/D845GVSR_TechProdSpec.pdf [different board, but same chips and better documentation]
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 12:14 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
On 04/05/11 11:37 AM, Jimmy Bradley wrote:
This isn't specifically about cent os, but I am running cent os onthis machine. I've got a Dell Dimension 2400 desktop pc. I've tried on a number of occasions to put a second hard drive in the machine, but I can't get the machine to recognize the second drive in BIOS. I'm going to try and keep this short and sweet. I've tried all that I know to try. I've set the jumpers on the drives to master and slave, I've tried setting the jumpers to cable select. I've changed the IDE ribbon cable. As far as I know, I've done all the trouble shooting steps that you'd do when having this problem.
(Googles a bit) Ok, thats a Intel 845GV chipset[1], which supports UDMA100[2], so you must use 80 wire UDMA style IDE cables or get very unreliable results.
wow, thats some old chit.
I have some chit, that's older than that. I also have a dell L500R that I acquired from my step dad's mom. She's in a nursing home suffering from dementia, so she doesn't know if it's Monday, or July 4,1776. Anyway, normally I would've just scrapped a machine that old for parts, but I didn't feel like it would be the right thing to do, since she's still alive. So, on a whim, I stuck a 500gig hard drive in it, which the bios saw, and I loaded White box 4 on it, and I use it as a archiving/file storage machine. The machine runs just fine. It's got 512mb of ram in it, and super fast 433 mghrtz intel celeron cpu. It'll run circles around a comodore vic 20, or a TRS 80.
Jim
With UDMA cables, they must be plugged in the correct way, the blue connector goes to the mainboard, the far end black connector goes to the 'master' (1st) drive, and the middle gray connector goes to the slave (2nd) drive. The drives should be jumpered as 'cable select' (but you /can/ use master/slave jumpering as LONG as they are connected in the correct order). The connectors should all be 'keyed' by a rectangular block molded on one side such that you can't plug them in the wrong way. There also should be a missing pin on the mobo and drives and a blocked pin on the cable that acts as a key. Both devices on the cable should be UDMA 100 capable, mixing older technology DMA33 stuff was bad news and resulted in all kinda funky behavior.
phew, [1] indicates that system has 2 dimm slots with support for 256M and 512M dimms (DDR SDRAM), onboard shared memory graphics, and only has one internal drive bay, and a 200 or 230W PSU. Pentium-4 w/ 400 or 533Mhz FSB so its probably Northwood generation, circa 2002. The CMOS battery is likely a ball of toxic green fuzz right now. Frankly, anything that old, when it starts misbehaving, its time for the recycle bin.
[1] http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/en/sm_en/specs.htm
[2] page 28 http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15210/eng/D845GVSR_TechProdSpec.pdf http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15210/eng/D845GVSR_TechProdSpec.pdf [different board, but same chips and better documentation]
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