On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
I would say, CentOS 6 is the best of Linuxes suitable for server (IMHO). However, I for one decided to move my servers away from Linux (as from "Unix-like" Linux gradually becomes "Windows-like" during last 5 years or so). Since some time ago I do not upgrade Linux systems on servers I maintain. Instead, when the time comes, I just migrate server from Linux to FreeBSD, which is much more suitable platform for server than Linux. Version 7 of RedHat Enterprise or CentOS is much worse than version 6 to build server on. Again, this is just my humble opinion. If I absolutely have to build server on today's latest Linux, I will choose Debian, which at least doesn't have systemd yet. But it will have it in next release...
Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on this list.
Valeri
Do you run bhyve virtualisation on any of your migrated FreeBSD hosts?
On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
I would say, CentOS 6 is the best of Linuxes suitable for server (IMHO). However, I for one decided to move my servers away from Linux (as from "Unix-like" Linux gradually becomes "Windows-like" during last 5 years or so). Since some time ago I do not upgrade Linux systems on servers I maintain. Instead, when the time comes, I just migrate server from Linux to FreeBSD, which is much more suitable platform for server than Linux. Version 7 of RedHat Enterprise or CentOS is much worse than version 6 to build server on. Again, this is just my humble opinion. If I absolutely have to build server on today's latest Linux, I will choose Debian, which at least doesn't have systemd yet. But it will have it in next release...
Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on this list.
Valeri
Do you run bhyve virtualisation on any of your migrated FreeBSD hosts?
No, at the moment I run services in FreeBSD jails. Even a single host sometimes lives in several jails (say: web server, shell login, mail,... go to different jails). But don't confuse me for an expert here...
Valeri
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On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:24:32AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
No, at the moment I run services in FreeBSD jails. Even a single host sometimes lives in several jails (say: web server, shell login, mail,... go to different jails). But don't confuse me for an expert here...
Jails are great. Although we had this great setup that worked up to 9.2 with jails on nullfs (that is, a bunch of jails sharing a template) that from 9.3 (maybe) and 10.0 (definitely) require an rc.local script to mount devfs. Valeri, if your FreeBSD systems are on 9.2 or below, check out my page at http://srobb.net/nullfsjail.html
From what I've heard (I'm at a primarily FreeBSD shop, though we are a 2nd
level CentOS mirror) bhyve is a bit behind. DISCLAIMER!!! I haven't investigated it. I don't believe it's yet capable of running Windows.
Jails are more like OpenVZ and Vserver, a more sophisticated chroot.
On Thu, October 9, 2014 4:27 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:24:32AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
No, at the moment I run services in FreeBSD jails. Even a single host sometimes lives in several jails (say: web server, shell login, mail,... go to different jails). But don't confuse me for an expert here...
Jails are great. Although we had this great setup that worked up to 9.2 with jails on nullfs (that is, a bunch of jails sharing a template) that from 9.3 (maybe) and 10.0 (definitely) require an rc.local script to mount devfs. Valeri, if your FreeBSD systems are on 9.2 or below, check out my page at http://srobb.net/nullfsjail.html
Thanks for the reference. I follow FreeBSD Handbook, sorry I only looked through your link without careful reading... but it looks pretty close to what I do by following Handbook. But thanks anyway. I guess, we need to move this discussion away from this list before we are banned (and rightfully so as this is irrelevant to CentOS Linux...).
Valeri
From what I've heard (I'm at a primarily FreeBSD shop, though we are a 2nd
level CentOS mirror) bhyve is a bit behind. DISCLAIMER!!! I haven't investigated it. I don't believe it's yet capable of running Windows.
Jails are more like OpenVZ and Vserver, a more sophisticated chroot.
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