Hi, folks,
Got an old HP box with a P800 Smart Array controller. The HP RAID box plugged into it's failing, and we got a new JetStor. Anyone know if we can just plug the JetStor in and set it to passthrough, or if we have to use the P800's firmware to set up the RAID, or other gotchas?
I *think* we could use the RAID boxes firmware to build the RAID, but last resort would be passthrough, and Linux RAID.
mark
On 10/7/2015 8:42 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Got an old HP box with a P800 Smart Array controller. The HP RAID boxplugged into it's failing, and we got a new JetStor. Anyone know if we can just plug the JetStor in and set it to passthrough, or if we have to use the P800's firmware to set up the RAID, or other gotchas?
I*think* we could use the RAID boxes firmware to build the RAID, but last resort would be passthrough, and Linux RAID.
I'm not familiar with JetStor, but a P800 is a older high end SAS raid controller that expects to talk to individual SAS or SATA drives. you can manage it with hpssacli from centos.
On 10/07/15 10:06, John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/7/2015 8:42 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Got an old HP box with a P800 Smart Array controller. The HP RAIDbox plugged into it's failing, and we got a new JetStor. Anyone know if we can just plug the JetStor in and set it to passthrough, or if we have to use the P800's firmware to set up the RAID, or other gotchas?
I*think* we could use the RAID boxes firmware to build the RAID, but last resort would be passthrough, and Linux RAID.
I'm not familiar with JetStor, but a P800 is a older high end SAS raid controller that expects to talk to individual SAS or SATA drives. you can manage it with hpssacli from centos.
I have the P822. It has no JBOD or RAID 0. hpacucli works with CentOS 7.0, but is broken on 7.1 -- it cannot find the controller.
Jack
On 10/7/2015 10:29 AM, Jack Bailey wrote:
I have the P822. It has no JBOD or RAID 0. hpacucli works with CentOS 7.0, but is broken on 7.1 -- it cannot find the controller.
try hpssacli, thats replaced hpacucli and supports the newer controllers on newer OS's.
Jack Bailey wrote:
On 10/07/15 10:06, John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/7/2015 8:42 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Got an old HP box with a P800 Smart Array controller. The HP RAID box plugged into it's failing, and we got a new JetStor. Anyone know if we can just plug the JetStor in and set it to passthrough, or if we have to use the P800's firmware to set up the RAID, or other gotchas?
I*think* we could use the RAID boxes firmware to build the RAID, but last resort would be passthrough, and Linux RAID.
I'm not familiar with JetStor, but a P800 is a older high end SAS raid
JetStor, from AC&NC, is a *real* nice solid line of RAID appliances... and esp. when you get to the bigger ones, runs half or a third the price that NetApp, HP, or Dell RAID boxes run, literally. Really reliable hardware - we've got some that have been running for well over six years with no troubles (other than an occasional dead drive). (No, I'm not getting any kickbacks from them - I really like their hardware.)
controller that expects to talk to individual SAS or SATA drives. you can manage it with hpssacli from centos.
I have the P822. It has no JBOD or RAID 0. hpacucli works with CentOS 7.0, but is broken on 7.1 -- it cannot find the controller.
Can it do RAID 6?
mark
On 10/07/15 11:13, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Jack Bailey wrote:
controller that expects to talk to individual SAS or SATA drives. you can manage it with hpssacli from centos.
I have the P822. It has no JBOD or RAID 0. hpacucli works with CentOS 7.0, but is broken on 7.1 -- it cannot find the controller.
Can it do RAID 6?
This page says it does. http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetHTML.aspx?docname=c04111199
The page also says it does RAID 0, but I did not see that in the 5.42 BIOS.
Jack
On 10/7/2015 11:47 AM, Jack Bailey wrote:
On 10/07/15 11:13, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Jack Bailey wrote:
controller that expects to talk to individual SAS or SATA drives. you can manage it with hpssacli from centos.
I have the P822. It has no JBOD or RAID 0. hpacucli works with CentOS 7.0, but is broken on 7.1 -- it cannot find the controller.
Can it do RAID 6?
This page says it does. http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetHTML.aspx?docname=c04111199
The page also says it does RAID 0, but I did not see that in the 5.42 BIOS.
on many of those P4/P8 series raid cards, raid6 support is an extra cost option, but once its enabled for a given card, it continues to work on that card even if its moved. The P420's I have support raid0 (stripe)...
I googled JetStor, and saw a whole lineup of NAS/SAN boxes that support NFS, ISCSI, etc. these wouldn't work with a raid card like a P800, but a SAS expansion tray from a JetStor should work if direct connected to the SmartArray card... a JetStor that has its own embedded raid controller with SAS host connectivity won't work with a hardware raid card like a P800, you would instead want a simple HBA card, such as a HP H221 Host Bus Adapter
John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/7/2015 11:47 AM, Jack Bailey wrote:
On 10/07/15 11:13, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Jack Bailey wrote:
controller that expects to talk to individual SAS or SATA drives. you can manage it with hpssacli from centos.
I have the P822. It has no JBOD or RAID 0. hpacucli works with CentOS 7.0, but is broken on 7.1 -- it cannot find the controller.
Can it do RAID 6?
This page says it does. http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetHTML.aspx?docname=c04111199
The page also says it does RAID 0, but I did not see that in the 5.42 BIOS.
on many of those P4/P8 series raid cards, raid6 support is an extra cost option, but once its enabled for a given card, it continues to work on that card even if its moved. The P420's I have support raid0 (stripe)...
I have no idea - we got these from another Institute, and they're old.
I googled JetStor, and saw a whole lineup of NAS/SAN boxes that support NFS, ISCSI, etc. these wouldn't work with a raid card like a P800, but a SAS expansion tray from a JetStor should work if direct connected to the SmartArray card... a JetStor that has its own embedded raid controller with SAS host connectivity won't work with a hardware raid card like a P800, you would instead want a simple HBA card, such as a HP H221 Host Bus Adapter
My last resort might be to use one of the other controller cards, maybe single-path the existing one, until the budget opens up....
mark
On 10/7/2015 8:42 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Got an old HP box with a P800 Smart Array controller. The HP RAID boxplugged into it's failing, and we got a new JetStor...
I think the FIRST thing you need to determine, WHAT JetStor do you have, and what is its host connection ? All the JetStor boxes I saw in a quick look were Ethernet connected NAS/SAN boxes.
John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/7/2015 8:42 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Got an old HP box with a P800 Smart Array controller. The HP RAIDbox plugged into it's failing, and we got a new JetStor...
I think the FIRST thing you need to determine, WHAT JetStor do you have, and what is its host connection ? All the JetStor boxes I saw in a quick look were Ethernet connected NAS/SAN boxes.
No. I'm the one who got the quote and set up the order for my managers, and I know what it's got: the ethernet connection is to the internal webserver to manage the RAID. the 712S I have is dual-path SAS for data.
mark
On 10/7/2015 1:30 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
No. I'm the one who got the quote and set up the order for my managers, and I know what it's got: the ethernet connection is to the internal webserver to manage the RAID. the 712S I have is dual-path SAS for data.
then yeah, you'll need a plain SAS2 external HBA card. If your server is older, with PCI-Express v1 or v2, then a LSI 9211-8e or similar would be fine (IBM M1015 are a common cheap OE version of the same thing), as long as you flash that to be in "IT" (Initiator-Target) mode as they usually come in IR (Integrated Raid). If the server is PCI-Express v3, then you'll want a newer card based on the LSI 2308 chip, such as the HP H221 I mentioned)
John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/7/2015 1:30 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
No. I'm the one who got the quote and set up the order for my managers, and I know what it's got: the ethernet connection is to the internal webserver to manage the RAID. the 712S I have is dual-path SAS for data.
then yeah, you'll need a plain SAS2 external HBA card. If your server is older, with PCI-Express v1 or v2, then a LSI 9211-8e or similar would be fine (IBM M1015 are a common cheap OE version of the same thing), as long as you flash that to be in "IT" (Initiator-Target) mode as they usually come in IR (Integrated Raid). If the server is PCI-Express v3, then you'll want a newer card based on the LSI 2308 chip, such as the HP H221 I mentioned)
It's an old box, a DL580 G5. And we didn't get the card with the RAID. I suppose I can single path each RAID from the PERC H800, until budgets open up.
mark
On 10/7/2015 2:15 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
It's an old box, a DL580 G5. And we didn't get the card with the RAID. I suppose I can single path each RAID from the PERC H800, until budgets open up.
wait, you originally said HP SmartArrray P800. Now, its a Dell PERC H800? I'm confused.
John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/7/2015 2:15 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
It's an old box, a DL580 G5. And we didn't get the card with the RAID. I suppose I can single path each RAID from the PERC H800, until budgets open up.
wait, you originally said HP SmartArrray P800. Now, its a Dell PERC H800? I'm confused.
Sorry, it's got a PERC 400, a PERC 800 (I think - lspci shows both as a MegaRAID 2108/Liberator - I'm remembering from the reboot the other day), *and* an HP 800.
mark
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