Hi,
I am hoping someone can kick me up the learning curve (!) on Virtualization:
We have an old piece of data logging software that was written in Turbo Pascal 6 using a file I/O module tuned to Netware and so it expects its data files to be on a Netware server and will not access them locally or via an MS/Samba share - essentially, it uses direct NCP calls for parts of its data access.
The logging software was replaced two years ago, but we need occasional access to the data for a minimum of 6 years and so I wondered whether I could virtualize a Netware 3.x/4.x/5.x or 6./x server under Linux (or Win..er..you know..).
I have found some articles on Netware 6.5 virtualization but would really appreciate input from anyone actually doing this already - otherwise I'll just have to keep the existing Netware server in the computer room to be fired up about 3-4 times a year 'on demand'. For info, I'm running a Netware 6.5 1-user 'demo' licence - the original install was on Netware 3.12 until the server died and no-one could find the original Netware floppies!
Thanks
Nigel Kendrick
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Kendrick Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:46 AM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: [CentOS] Virtualisation of Netware?
Hi,
I am hoping someone can kick me up the learning curve (!) on Virtualization:
We have an old piece of data logging software that was written in Turbo Pascal 6 using a file I/O module tuned to Netware and so it expects its data files to be on a Netware server and will not access them locally or via an MS/Samba share - essentially, it uses direct NCP calls for parts of its data access.
The logging software was replaced two years ago, but we need occasional access to the data for a minimum of 6 years and so I wondered whether I could virtualize a Netware 3.x/4.x/5.x or 6./x server under Linux (or Win..er..you know..).
I have found some articles on Netware 6.5 virtualization but would really appreciate input from anyone actually doing this already - otherwise I'll just have to keep the existing Netware server in the computer room to be fired up about 3-4 times a year 'on demand'. For info, I'm running a Netware 6.5 1-user 'demo' licence - the original install was on Netware 3.12 until the server died and no-one could find the original Netware floppies!
Thanks
Nigel Kendrick
I would look at using Suse Enterprise Linux you will find greater virtualization and Netware support right now then in CentOS.
-Ross
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-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ross S. W. Walker Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:04 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: RE: [CentOS] Virtualisation of Netware?
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Kendrick Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:46 AM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: [CentOS] Virtualisation of Netware?
Hi,
I am hoping someone can kick me up the learning curve (!) on Virtualization:
I would look at using Suse Enterprise Linux you will find greater virtualization and Netware support right now then in CentOS.
-Ross
Thanks - I having a look already.
Nigel Kendrick wrote:
Hi,
I am hoping someone can kick me up the learning curve (!) on Virtualization:
We have an old piece of data logging software that was written in Turbo Pascal 6 using a file I/O module tuned to Netware and so it expects its data files to be on a Netware server and will not access them locally or via an MS/Samba share - essentially, it uses direct NCP calls for parts of its data access.
The logging software was replaced two years ago, but we need occasional access to the data for a minimum of 6 years and so I wondered whether I could virtualize a Netware 3.x/4.x/5.x or 6./x server under Linux (or Win..er..you know..).
I have found some articles on Netware 6.5 virtualization but would really appreciate input from anyone actually doing this already - otherwise I'll just have to keep the existing Netware server in the computer room to be fired up about 3-4 times a year 'on demand'. For info, I'm running a Netware 6.5 1-user 'demo' licence - the original install was on Netware 3.12 until the server died and no-one could find the original Netware floppies!
Thanks
Nigel Kendrick
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can your software communicate with Netware over tcp/ip or it needs ipx/spx?
I had installed a Netware 6 server on VMware WS 5 a couple of years back in a scenario similar to yours. If memory serves right, problems were lack of VMware tools (no big deal) and lack of ipx/spx (this may be critical to you).
Yiorgos
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of G.Stamoulis@brighton.ac.uk Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:27 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Virtualisation of Netware?
Nigel Kendrick wrote:
Hi,
I am hoping someone can kick me up the learning curve (!) on
Virtualization:
We have an old piece of data logging software that was written in Turbo Pascal 6 using a file I/O module tuned to Netware and so it expects its
data
I had installed a Netware 6 server on VMware WS 5 a couple of years back in a scenario similar to yours. If memory serves right, problems were lack of VMware tools (no big deal) and lack of ipx/spx (this may be critical to you).
Yiorgos _______________________________________________
Thanks - it's working OK on NW6.5 via IP so that's maybe a good sign. Worse case I'll just keep the server in storage but it seems a waste.
On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Nigel Kendrick wrote:
I am hoping someone can kick me up the learning curve (!) on Virtualization:
We have an old piece of data logging software that was written in Turbo Pascal 6 using a file I/O module tuned to Netware and so it expects its data files to be on a Netware server and will not access them locally or via an MS/Samba share - essentially, it uses direct NCP calls for parts of its data access.
The logging software was replaced two years ago, but we need occasional access to the data for a minimum of 6 years and so I wondered whether I could virtualize a Netware 3.x/4.x/5.x or 6./x server under Linux (or Win..er..you know..).
virtualization seems an awful lot of heavy lifting for a capability that you're going to use so infrequently. if you can get the data off the old Netware machine, you might be able to make do with some of the old Linux-based Netware emulation solutions:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IPX-HOWTO-10.html
-steve
-- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Steve Huff Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:46 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Virtualisation of Netware?
On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Nigel Kendrick wrote:
I am hoping someone can kick me up the learning curve (!) on Virtualization:
We have an old piece of data logging software that was written in Turbo Pascal 6 using a file I/O module tuned to Netware and so it expects its data files to be on a Netware server and will not access them locally or via an MS/Samba share - essentially, it uses direct NCP calls for parts of its data access.
The logging software was replaced two years ago, but we need occasional access to the data for a minimum of 6 years and so I wondered whether I could virtualize a Netware 3.x/4.x/5.x or 6./x server under Linux (or Win..er..you know..).
virtualization seems an awful lot of heavy lifting for a capability that you're going to use so infrequently. if you can get the data off the old Netware machine, you might be able to make do with some of the old Linux-based Netware emulation solutions:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IPX-HOWTO-10.html
-steve
Thanks - I dabbled with that a couple of years ago without much success. I might end up just bringing the data into a mysql database and writing a simple query front-end in php.
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:45 -0400, Steve Huff wrote:
On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Nigel Kendrick wrote:
I am hoping someone can kick me up the learning curve (!) on Virtualization:
We have an old piece of data logging software that was written in Turbo Pascal 6 using a file I/O module tuned to Netware and so it expects its data files to be on a Netware server and will not access them locally or via an MS/Samba share - essentially, it uses direct NCP calls for parts of its data access.
The logging software was replaced two years ago, but we need occasional access to the data for a minimum of 6 years and so I wondered whether I could virtualize a Netware 3.x/4.x/5.x or 6./x server under Linux (or Win..er..you know..).
virtualization seems an awful lot of heavy lifting for a capability that you're going to use so infrequently. if you can get the data off the old Netware machine, you might be able to make do with some of the old Linux-based Netware emulation solutions:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IPX-HOWTO-10.html
-steve
Just to put in my 2 cents ... I tried mars a couple years ago on CentOS 3 and managed to get it to run, but mars is *very* unsupported with no development or bug fixing going on, frankly if it's just file serving I would used samba instead.
Regards, Paul Berger