Does anyone have experience using the Supertrak EX16650 sas controller under Centos 5.2?
The Promise website claims RHEL 5.2 support was added Sept '08. I figure the card might very well be detected, but how about the management gui - it appears to use some sort of web interface, but the card has no ethernet jack, so it must rely on some special driver to access this?
Any information is appreciated. I'm not finding much under google regarding this card and redhat (or centos), so either it's rather new, or unpopular, or just doesn't have problems so no one complains?
Thanks,
Gordon.
Gordon McLellan wrote:
Does anyone have experience using the Supertrak EX16650 sas controller under Centos 5.2?
Do you know what the pci id's are for the device ?
The Promise website claims RHEL 5.2 support was added Sept '08. I figure the card might very well be detected, but how about the management gui - it appears to use some sort of web interface, but the card has no ethernet jack, so it must rely on some special driver to access this?
most of the time such webui's are run via a proxy app, that you run as 'root' on the machine and then connect to over the net using your web browser. its a common practice that many h/w vendors use these days.
- KB
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Gordon McLellan wrote:
Does anyone have experience using the Supertrak EX16650 sas controller under Centos 5.2?
Do you know what the pci id's are for the device ?
The Promise website claims RHEL 5.2 support was added Sept '08. I figure the card might very well be detected, but how about the management gui - it appears to use some sort of web interface, but the card has no ethernet jack, so it must rely on some special driver to access this?
most of the time such webui's are run via a proxy app, that you run as 'root' on the machine and then connect to over the net using your web browser. its a common practice that many h/w vendors use these days.
... and we have many problems with that approach which most of the time uses Java.
I have many servers in production (mostly Winblows boxes, i know it's bad but it's not my choice!) that have 2-3 of these bad admin apps and we have many compatibility problems.
For example, i have one server with APC UPS management, AVG Anti-Virus management server and Promise Management. For Promise, i've never been able to make work the management interface for the PCI card at the same time of the external VTRak Raid chassis. To explain a little better, i have a Promise "RAID" Card (it's fake raid!) and an external VTRAK 15100 15 SATA disks to SCSI RAID Chassis. The worst thing is that the VTRak has an ethernet port but still requires the crap JAVA application running on the server (for management, SNMP, etc)...
AVG Anti-Virus Server had Java problems after installing Promise crap and so on... At least, i found APCUPSD for Win32 and finally, APC UPS monitoring is stable. For the rest, i can only cross my fingers... And Promise don't seems to support their hardware very well: Very few updates since many years.
I dunno if somebody on this list has advises for these Java Apps problems. Maybe it's just bad coding from these companies. I had some problems on Linux too but at least, it seems that Sun has open up a bit support/licensing on Linux.
Regards,
Guy Boisvert, ing. IngTegration inc.
Guy Boisvert wrote:
... and we have many problems with that approach which most of the time uses Java.
I've never seen one that did use java, having used the proxy's for Areca, 3ware, adaptec and MSI.
I have many servers in production (mostly Winblows boxes, i know it's bad but it's not my choice!) that have 2-3 of these bad admin apps and we have many compatibility problems.
Get a proper raid card ?
- KB
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Guy Boisvert wrote:
... and we have many problems with that approach which most of the time uses Java.
I've never seen one that did use java, having used the proxy's for Areca, 3ware, adaptec and MSI.
I have many servers in production (mostly Winblows boxes, i know it's bad but it's not my choice!) that have 2-3 of these bad admin apps and we have many compatibility problems.
Get a proper raid card ?
- KB
I'm totally with you Karanbir!
I mean, i'm a consultant and i have to live with things i didn't chose!
I'd like to change many hardware at my client's offices but sometimes, the budget is just not there. SMBs are not always up to understand TCO, ROI, etc. I do my best but sometimes, it's difficult!
The guy was talking about Promise and that was the reason i tried to warn him about their bad management app and so-so support.
That's it!
Regards,
Guy Boisvert, ing. IngTegration inc.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Guy Boisvert boisvert.guy@videotron.ca wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Guy Boisvert wrote:
... and we have many problems with that approach which most of the time uses Java.
I've never seen one that did use java, having used the proxy's for Areca, 3ware, adaptec and MSI.
I have many servers in production (mostly Winblows boxes, i know it's bad but it's not my choice!) that have 2-3 of these bad admin apps and we have many compatibility problems.
Get a proper raid card ?
- KB
I'm totally with you Karanbir!
I mean, i'm a consultant and i have to live with things i didn't chose!
I'd like to change many hardware at my client's offices but sometimes, the budget is just not there. SMBs are not always up to understand TCO, ROI, etc. I do my best but sometimes, it's difficult!
I believe, as a Consultant, one has a legal and moral obligation, to give the client the best advice one can. If they do not go that route, we've tried our best.... I've seen them go both ways.
The guy was talking about Promise and that was the reason i tried to warn him about their bad management app and so-so support.
If my memory hasn't failed, Promise has gotten many bad comments, over time, in this mailing list. 3Ware is much more respected here, but again, not positive my memory is working....
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