On Wed, 11 May 2005, Beau Henderson wrote:

Is there any perticular reason why a yum update would want to install the unsupported package when its not being upgraded ( as its not installed ) ? I ask, as its in the list of available "updates" when i do a yum check-update. Is this standard / normal ?

It is not kernel-unsupported , it is a kernel with .unsupported as part of the 'release'.

It should only show in updates if you have the centosplus repo enabled ...

But as 'kernel' is installed it will show as an update.

Regards Lance

On 5/10/05, Chris Weisiger cweisiger@i-55.com wrote:

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Johnny Hughes wrote:

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All,

There have been many requests for added kernel features that the upstream provider left out of the standard kernel. (ReiserFS, Video4Linux, Firewire support, XFS, NTFS, JFS, etc.).

We want the main release CDs to contain a standard kernel for compatibility and stability reasons. CentOS is created as a clone, and it needs to be as close as possible to the upstream distro.

That being said, the 2.6.9 kernel has lots of features that are not turned on in the default kernel. Until now the answer has been ... if you want that, you must make recompile the kernel yourself. Well ... now there is another option for x86_64 and i386. I have created an unsupported kernel for the CentOS-4 i386 and x86_64 distros. It is in the CentOS-Plus repository and is the latest released CentOS-4 Kernel (currently 2.6.9-5.0.5.EL), with the configuration files modified to turn on optional modules. It is called:

kernel-2.6.9-5.0.5.106.unsupported

Turned on (as kernel modules) are the following:

NTFS XFS JFS ReiserFS UFS (FreeBSD default file system ... Read Only) BeOS (Read Only)

Video4Linux and all supported cards (including Video, Audio, Radio and DVB)

all Video Cards

all Alsa Sound Cards

Support for AppleTalk and DECNET

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I am running this kernel on 5 machines for testing and have had no problems ... but it is NOT officially supported by CentOS {even less than the other stuff :)}

You should evaluate whether you want to use this kernel ... and you should test it appropriately prior to putting it on any important machines :)

We are also working on a Single CD version of CentOS-4 (similar to the CentOS-3.4 Server ISO). This CD will have as much stuff as we can fit on a single CD that can be used to set up a server (no X though). All other programs will be available via the standard CentOS repositories using the "yum groupinstall" feature.

It is my plan to take that CentOS-4 Single Server Edition CD as a template and make one (called Single Server unsupported) that will boot with this kernel (and contain XFS tools, JFS tools, ReiserFS tools) so that people who know how can install reisferfs, XFS, or JFS partitions via the command line at install time.

If you are going to use this kernel, you need to enable the CentOS-Plus repo from your chosen install method ... for yum, you can do it via the command line:

yum --enablerepo=centosplus install kernel

The tools for XFS, JFS, and ReiserFS are also now in the CentOS-Plus repository.

This should make CentOS a more robust desktop solution :)

Some notes:

I will update this kernel after normal kernel updates have been completed, it may be a day or 2 later. So if you are using features of this kernel (like ReiserFS, XFS, etc.) then you may want to turn off auto kernel updates, as a new version of the main kernel will be installed when available.

You can do this in Up2date, yum and apt inside the config files.

You can also get it via http from your favorite CentOS mirror in the CentOS-Plus repository or from here (i386): http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/centosplus/i386/RPMS/

or here (x86_64): http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/centosplus/x86_64/RPMS/

Source RPM is here: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/centosplus/SRPMS/

Enjoy, Johnny Hughes

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WOOHOOO....this is good news...at least to me...hey johnny...THANKS a bunch

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On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 14:08 +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:

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kernel-2.6.9-5.0.5.106.unsupported

Turned on (as kernel modules) are the following:

NTFS XFS JFS ReiserFS UFS (FreeBSD default file system ... Read Only) BeOS (Read Only)

what about IPX support (as it was in centos-3.x)?

It's in there :)

I knew I would forget something important in the announcement :)

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One thing I want to make clear about this kernel package

This package is a replacement for the package "kernel" ... it has an upsupported in the version, but it is not called kernel-unsupported. I did this on purpose, as it is a full replacement kernel and not a standalone set of just modules.

There are pros and cons to this method, but since it is in the CentOS- Plus repository, I wanted it to be a standalone kernel. (So other distro users ... like WBEL, TaoLinux, and even RHEL, could use it)

I have fully tested this kernel, and I think it is very stable ... but I only have 5 test machines and 2 production CentOS-4 servers where I can run it. RHEL does not provide this kind of kernel, so if it breaks, you get to keep the pieces :) I will, of course, try to fix any issues that arise in this kernel that do not happen in the RHEL one.

------ Johnny Hughes