I have asked about this before, but I don't have a workable answer yet.
I would like to know if there is a way to install a more recent GNOME package on CentOS 5.x than 2.16.0.
1) GNOME Bugzilla does not support this version any more - all bugs go into the bit bucket.
2) Having been exposed to Fedora 8 at work and seeing how much more flexible GNOME 2.22 is, I would REALLY like to take a shot at using it on my CentOS systems.
3) I asked about this on the GNOME list and I was told I should build it, and that jhbuild or garnome would do the job for me. This has not been my experience - both of them have major hangups building on my home desktop (the 64-bit hybrid CentOS 5.1 environment).
4) Johnny suggested I try mock to build in a chroot, pure 64-bit environment. I was unable to locate a mock that actually installed and worked on my system. (Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm the only person for whom this does not work. Heard it, can't believe it, must be doing something most others don't, whatever.... ;*)
I have trouble believing that the ONLY ways to get a newer GNOME are to wait for CentOS 6, run a different distro (not likely) or build it myself. This is Linux, after all, isn't it? (That's a rhetorical question - no answer required, unless those /really are/ the only options....)
TIA.
mhr
MHR wrote:
I have trouble believing that the ONLY ways to get a newer GNOME are to wait for CentOS 6, run a different distro (not likely) or build it myself. This is Linux, after all, isn't it? (That's a rhetorical question - no answer required, unless those /really are/ the only options....)
What would you expect? CentOS is based off of RHEL, which tries to stick to older more stable/tested software. Your using the wrong distribution if you want the latest and greatest.
Use Ubuntu, Fedora, or something else.
As a casual user I'm happy with the gnome that comes with my Debian Etch install which seems to be somewhere around 2.14-2.16, and whatever version comes with Ubuntu 7.10(haven't turned that laptop on in a couple of months).
Really, what did you expect? Do you expect folks out there to constantly build the latest & greatest for a "stable" distribution that consists primarily of users that don't want the latest & greatest (which is why they use that distribution in the first place).
nate
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, nate centos@linuxpowered.net wrote:
What would you expect? CentOS is based off of RHEL, which tries to stick to older more stable/tested software. Your using the wrong distribution if you want the latest and greatest.
Use Ubuntu, Fedora, or something else.
As a casual user I'm happy with the gnome that comes with my Debian Etch install which seems to be somewhere around 2.14-2.16, and whatever version comes with Ubuntu 7.10(haven't turned that laptop on in a couple of months).
Really, what did you expect? Do you expect folks out there to constantly build the latest & greatest for a "stable" distribution that consists primarily of users that don't want the latest & greatest (which is why they use that distribution in the first place).
Dunno - a good answer, like yours?
Thanks (seriously).
mhr
MHR wrote:
I have trouble believing that the ONLY ways to get a newer GNOME are to wait for CentOS 6, run a different distro (not likely) or build it myself. This is Linux, after all, isn't it? (That's a rhetorical question - no answer required, unless those /really are/ the only options....)
I am not sure you can have your cake and eat it too on a single machine. At the very least, building a newer Gnome for CentOS 5 sounds like a big timesink. There are probably all kinds of library issues.
If you'd like the latest desktop apps, then perhaps it would be easier to choose Fedora or Ubuntu for your desktop, and connect to your more stable CentOS 5 servers remotely. Or, run Fedora or Ubuntu in a VM.
Dan
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Dan Halbert halbert@everyzing.com wrote:
I am not sure you can have your cake and eat it too on a single machine. At the very least, building a newer Gnome for CentOS 5 sounds like a big timesink. There are probably all kinds of library issues.
If you'd like the latest desktop apps, then perhaps it would be easier to choose Fedora or Ubuntu for your desktop, and connect to your more stable CentOS 5 servers remotely. Or, run Fedora or Ubuntu in a VM.
Actually, the question grew out of a much more basic one, which I asked on the GNOME list and was told, why don't you build it yourself? (I now have many answers for that one!)
What I was originally looking for was the location of the gnome config file where I could manipulate the default colors in my windows (I really don't like gray). I poked and googled around some, but there are SO many gnome files I was unable to locate the one that contains this config....
Thanks.
mhr
Mhr wrote on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:48:05 -0700:
I have trouble believing that the ONLY ways to get a newer GNOME are to wait for CentOS 6, run a different distro (not likely) or build it myself. This is Linux, after all, isn't it?
If you do not need CentOS for the reasons that most here use it then why don't you use Fedora if that gives you what you want? No one will be angry about you ;-)
Kai
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl maillists@conactive.com wrote:
If you do not need CentOS for the reasons that most here use it then why don't you use Fedora if that gives you what you want? No one will be angry about you ;-)
Heh, heh, as in, don't let the door hit you on the way out? :-}
<raspberry>
Yeah, I could jump ship, but I prefer the stability of a proven base, which is why I use CentOS wherever I can, and we're moving in that direction, corporately speaking, anyway. Besides, I just couldn't leave this community - where would you folks get all the laughs from then? :-)
"It was just a whim."
Thanks.
mhr
Mhr wrote on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:24:07 -0700:
Heh, heh, as in, don't let the door hit you on the way out? :-}
No, I meant it in a friendly way.
Kai
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl maillists@conactive.com wrote:
Mhr wrote on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:24:07 -0700:
Heh, heh, as in, don't let the door hit you on the way out? :-}
No, I meant it in a friendly way.
I thought so, but I just couldn't resist....
;*)
mhr
MHR wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl maillists@conactive.com wrote:
If you do not need CentOS for the reasons that most here use it then why don't you use Fedora if that gives you what you want? No one will be angry about you ;-)
Heh, heh, as in, don't let the door hit you on the way out? :-}
<raspberry>
Yeah, I could jump ship, but I prefer the stability of a proven base, which is why I use CentOS wherever I can, and we're moving in that direction, corporately speaking, anyway. Besides, I just couldn't leave this community - where would you folks get all the laughs from then? :-)
actually ... it is POSSIBLE to use garnome to build a parallel version of Gnome for CentOS.
It is not easy, and CERTAINLY not supported, but if you google for:
garnome centos
you will find some people who have done it :D
Johnny Hughes wrote:
MHR wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl maillists@conactive.com wrote:
If you do not need CentOS for the reasons that most here use it then why don't you use Fedora if that gives you what you want? No one will be angry about you ;-)
Heh, heh, as in, don't let the door hit you on the way out? :-}
<raspberry>
Yeah, I could jump ship, but I prefer the stability of a proven base, which is why I use CentOS wherever I can, and we're moving in that direction, corporately speaking, anyway. Besides, I just couldn't leave this community - where would you folks get all the laughs from then? :-)
actually ... it is POSSIBLE to use garnome to build a parallel version of Gnome for CentOS.
It is not easy, and CERTAINLY not supported, but if you google for:
garnome centos
you will find some people who have done it :D
also, there is these guys:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
also, there is these guys:
All i386 rpms, but it was worth the look - thanks.
mhr
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