Hi all,
I would like to announce a CentOS on Laptops initiative. The aim is to allow everybody in the community (and on this mailinglist) to document their own experience with CentOS on their laptop (on the CentOS wiki).
The goal of this initiative consists of 2 parts:
- help and convince people with their own CentOS on laptop installation
- promote CentOS on other Laptop websites and fill in this existing void
I hope that everyone think back about the experience on their existing laptop and add it to the wiki, and document everything when doing future laptop installations.
<insert your favorite motivational quote here ! :)>
On 11/26/07, Dag Wieers dag@centos.org wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to announce a CentOS on Laptops initiative. The aim is to allow everybody in the community (and on this mailinglist) to document their own experience with CentOS on their laptop (on the CentOS wiki).
The goal of this initiative consists of 2 parts:
- help and convince people with their own CentOS on laptop installation
Are you nuts? CentOS on laptop? Why you want to kill torture people in such a cruel way?
Joy
On Nov 27, 2007 10:37 AM, Count Of Dracula countofdracula@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/07, Dag Wieers dag@centos.org wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to announce a CentOS on Laptops initiative. The aim is to allow everybody in the community (and on this mailinglist) to document their own experience with CentOS on their laptop (on the CentOS wiki).
The goal of this initiative consists of 2 parts:
- help and convince people with their own CentOS on laptop installation
Are you nuts? CentOS on laptop? Why you want to kill torture people in such a cruel way?
Joy
Because some people may actually want to run a stable OS that will have patches released for quite a while. Fedora is not an option for most business people who rely on their laptops every day. Torture is installing the latest Fedora every 6 months and hoping something doesn't break. Some would say Fedora users are nuts.
Matt Shields ha scritto:
On Nov 27, 2007 10:37 AM, Count Of Dracula countofdracula@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/07, Dag Wieers dag@centos.org wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to announce a CentOS on Laptops initiative. The aim is to allow everybody in the community (and on this mailinglist) to document their own experience with CentOS on their laptop (on the CentOS wiki).
The goal of this initiative consists of 2 parts:
- help and convince people with their own CentOS on laptop installation
Are you nuts? CentOS on laptop? Why you want to kill torture people in such a cruel way?
Joy
Because some people may actually want to run a stable OS that will have patches released for quite a while. Fedora is not an option for most business people who rely on their laptops every day. Torture is installing the latest Fedora every 6 months and hoping something doesn't break. Some would say Fedora users are nuts.
I'm actually using CentOS on 2 laptops, and I have really few issues: on the newer one (a Lenovo) the only thing that doesn't work is sound (I know the newer alsa drivers would work, but I'm too lazy to install them: I'll wait for the updates) but it isn't a big deal: I'm using it for work, and I don't need sound My old crappy asus instead is just for watching movies attached to an external flat lcd tv and it's doing his job wonderfully (even if it has some issue with the integrated monitor) So maybe I'm nuts, but I'm happy with not having to reinstall everything every 6/12 months.
:)
Lorenzo
Lorenzo Quatrini wrote:
I'm actually using CentOS on 2 laptops, and I have really few issues: on the newer one (a Lenovo) the only thing that doesn't work is sound (I know the newer alsa drivers would work, but I'm too lazy to install them: I'll wait for the updates) but it isn't a big deal: I'm using it for work, and I don't need sound
I have CentOS-5 on a Thinkpad X61s and also only have sound as my major issue. Otherwise, it's great and I see no reason to run Fedora/Ubuntu.
One (more general, not CentOS-specific) problem that I have is that there's no network profile manager. Traveling among 4 different locations (none with DHCP) means constantly going in and changing my network settings. Anyone know of a program to do something like what OS X does?
Anyway, I'll throw up my experiences on the wiki soon, though it's been a few months, so my memory's patchy.
Dag, is this the correct page? http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/
And are we supposed to do it on our own page and then link to it? Seems like the existing ones are like that.
Or, if we create a page on there, should multiple entries of the same laptop model go on the same line somehow?
johnn
On Nov 27, 2007 9:16 AM, Johnny Tan linuxweb@gmail.com wrote:
One (more general, not CentOS-specific) problem that I have is that there's no network profile manager. Traveling among 4 different locations (none with DHCP) means constantly going in and changing my network settings. Anyone know of a program to do something like what OS X does?
There is a NetworkManager package for CentOS 4 and 5 which has a gnome "helper" UI, but I found that it didn't play well with ndiswrapper (which I needed because the bcm43xx driver didn't work for me) so I ended up disabling it. Also it seems to want to have only one network interface active at a time, i.e., I could not both plug in a wired network and activate the wireless with NetworkManager.
Johnny Tan wrote:
One (more general, not CentOS-specific) problem that I have is that there's no network profile manager. Traveling among 4 different locations (none with DHCP) means constantly going in and changing my network settings. Anyone know of a program to do something like what OS X does?
The idea of profiles has been around for about 4 - 5 years on EL/CentOS/Fedora platforms. eg:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.1/Deployment_Guide/s1-network-profiles.h...
Karanbir Singh wrote:
The idea of profiles has been around for about 4 - 5 years on EL/CentOS/Fedora platforms. eg:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.1/Deployment_Guide/s1-network-profiles.h...
D'oh! I've been using Network Manager for about that many years too, and didn't realize I could create profiles! I guess since they were under the "Devices" tab, I never looked closely enough to see there were profile options.
Thanks! johnn
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Johnny Tan wrote:
Lorenzo Quatrini wrote:
I'm actually using CentOS on 2 laptops, and I have really few issues: on the newer one (a Lenovo) the only thing that doesn't work is sound (I know the newer alsa drivers would work, but I'm too lazy to install them: I'll wait for the updates) but it isn't a big deal: I'm using it for work, and I don't need sound
I have CentOS-5 on a Thinkpad X61s and also only have sound as my major issue. Otherwise, it's great and I see no reason to run Fedora/Ubuntu.
Anyway, I'll throw up my experiences on the wiki soon, though it's been a few months, so my memory's patchy.
Dag, is this the correct page? http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/
It is. I forgot to send a link with the announcement :|
And are we supposed to do it on our own page and then link to it? Seems like the existing ones are like that.
No, I googled for specific keywords to find existing pages. These links eventually belong in their own Laptop-model pages.
Or, if we create a page on there, should multiple entries of the same laptop model go on the same line somehow?
What I prefer is to have one single page per Laptop model. And a different section for each CentOS version (starting with the latest, CentOS-5 first).
If people have their own blog articles or webpages about their laptop model, I would like to have this information reside inside of that page (now they are on the index page temporarily).
Sadly, for now, you have to request access to be allowed to create or edit these pages. I hope in the future we will have a more liberal view wrt. the wiki.
PS I created this structure for your X60 for now, I plan to add my own laptops soon (but it does not include a X60). If you can add your information to this existing page, I am sure this is very valuable for another X60 owner.
Dag, is this the correct page? http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/
It is. I forgot to send a link with the announcement :|
And are we supposed to do it on our own page and then link to it? Seems like the existing ones are like that.
No, I googled for specific keywords to find existing pages. These links eventually belong in their own Laptop-model pages.
Or, if we create a page on there, should multiple entries of the same laptop model go on the same line somehow?
What I prefer is to have one single page per Laptop model. And a different section for each CentOS version (starting with the latest, CentOS-5 first).
If people have their own blog articles or webpages about their laptop model, I would like to have this information reside inside of that page (now they are on the index page temporarily).
Sadly, for now, you have to request access to be allowed to create or edit these pages. I hope in the future we will have a more liberal view wrt. the wiki.
PS I created this structure for your X60 for now, I plan to add my own laptops soon (but it does not include a X60). If you can add your information to this existing page, I am sure this is very valuable for another X60 owner.
I think it is cool to see this effort undertaken, thanks Dag! :) I may need to install C5 on my Fujitsu that currently has Ubuntu on it.
Speaking of which, those guys have been maintaining both official and user submitted laptop reports for awhile so you might want to take a look over there and possibly borrow some cues or ideas for this project.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeamTemplate
-Shawn
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Shawn O'Shea wrote:
I think it is cool to see this effort undertaken, thanks Dag! :) I may need to install C5 on my Fujitsu that currently has Ubuntu on it.
Speaking of which, those guys have been maintaining both official and user submitted laptop reports for awhile so you might want to take a look over there and possibly borrow some cues or ideas for this project.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeamTemplate
That's an interesting read. The aim however seems to be different. Although I am in favor of doing consistent Laptop tests as well, I prefer listing solutions for common problems (most problems are not model-specific) first and if this becomes a success, go one step further.
We also cannot fix most problems that are in the Ubuntu Test template because we cannot change a lot of the packages from upstream. So we are by design limited to providing documentation and providing drivers/tools to make the user experience better.
However if we do have a problem with upstream provided packages, we should definitely report them upstream.
Now my initial goal is to have more information regarding CentOS on Laptops because that information is hard to find and because there is this misconception that Enterprise Linux belongs on servers (or are unfit for Laptops).
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 07:02:40PM +0100, Dag Wieers wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Johnny Tan wrote:
Lorenzo Quatrini wrote:
I'm actually using CentOS on 2 laptops, and I have really few issues: on the newer one (a Lenovo) the only thing that doesn't work is sound (I know the newer alsa drivers would work, but I'm too lazy to install them: I'll wait for the updates) but it isn't a big deal: I'm using it for work, and I don't need sound
I have CentOS-5 on a Thinkpad X61s and also only have sound as my major issue. Otherwise, it's great and I see no reason to run Fedora/Ubuntu.
Anyway, I'll throw up my experiences on the wiki soon, though it's been a few months, so my memory's patchy.
Dag, is this the correct page? http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/
It is. I forgot to send a link with the announcement :|
And are we supposed to do it on our own page and then link to it? Seems like the existing ones are like that.
No, I googled for specific keywords to find existing pages. These links eventually belong in their own Laptop-model pages.
Or, if we create a page on there, should multiple entries of the same laptop model go on the same line somehow?
What I prefer is to have one single page per Laptop model. And a different section for each CentOS version (starting with the latest, CentOS-5 first).
If people have their own blog articles or webpages about their laptop model, I would like to have this information reside inside of that page (now they are on the index page temporarily).
Sadly, for now, you have to request access to be allowed to create or edit these pages. I hope in the future we will have a more liberal view wrt. the wiki.
PS I created this structure for your X60 for now, I plan to add my own laptops soon (but it does not include a X60). If you can add your information to this existing page, I am sure this is very valuable for another X60 owner.
Last weekend I tried to install Centos 5.0 into my old Toshiba 4200. No luck. The installation process stop in different places.
Any recommendations?
I tried Startcom which is also redhat based and the installation process ended successfully.
I will keep trying to see if I can get my laptop to run Centos. I will also share my findings when trying to get my laptop to connect to the internet using bcm43xx using fwcutter, if that is ok you guys?
Alfredo The Sauce
Dag Wieers wrote:
I would like to announce a CentOS on Laptops initiative. The aim is to allow everybody in the community (and on this mailinglist) to document their own experience with CentOS on their laptop (on the CentOS wiki).
The goal of this initiative consists of 2 parts:
help and convince people with their own CentOS on laptop installation
promote CentOS on other Laptop websites and fill in this existing void
I hope that everyone think back about the experience on their existing laptop and add it to the wiki, and document everything when doing future laptop installations.
Dell Latitude D600: ipw200: eth1: ipw2100_get_firmware failed -2.
Screen works, haven't tried the tv out.
Les Mikesell wrote:
Dag Wieers wrote:
I would like to announce a CentOS on Laptops initiative. The aim is to allow everybody in the community (and on this mailinglist) to document their own experience with CentOS on their laptop (on the CentOS wiki).
The goal of this initiative consists of 2 parts:
help and convince people with their own CentOS on laptop installation
promote CentOS on other Laptop websites and fill in this existing void
I hope that everyone think back about the experience on their existing laptop and add it to the wiki, and document everything when doing future laptop installations.
Dell Latitude D600: ipw200: eth1: ipw2100_get_firmware failed -2.
Screen works, haven't tried the tv out.
hmm, I have a D600 under centos5 and the wireless works fine - in fact everything works fine, and I don't remember fighting to get things working though it was a while ago did you install ipw2200-firmware (from rpmforge)?
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
Dag Wieers wrote:
I would like to announce a CentOS on Laptops initiative. The aim is to allow everybody in the community (and on this mailinglist) to document their own experience with CentOS on their laptop (on the CentOS wiki).
The goal of this initiative consists of 2 parts:
help and convince people with their own CentOS on laptop installation
promote CentOS on other Laptop websites and fill in this existing void
I hope that everyone think back about the experience on their existing laptop and add it to the wiki, and document everything when doing future laptop installations.
Dell Latitude D600: ipw200: eth1: ipw2100_get_firmware failed -2.
Screen works, haven't tried the tv out.
hmm, I have a D600 under centos5 and the wireless works fine - in fact everything works fine, and I don't remember fighting to get things working though it was a while ago did you install ipw2200-firmware (from rpmforge)?
This information is exactly what we want on the wiki. So people can extend and improve it as things change or become known.
So I would prefer if one of you adds this information.
Thanks !
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
Dell Latitude D600: ipw200: eth1: ipw2100_get_firmware failed -2.
Screen works, haven't tried the tv out.
hmm, I have a D600 under centos5 and the wireless works fine - in fact everything works fine, and I don't remember fighting to get things working though it was a while ago did you install ipw2200-firmware (from rpmforge)?
I hadn't, and adding it makes it recognize eth1 (but now it's not quite Centos anymore...). But now I need it to use a WPA key at work and WEP at home. Is that possible?
Dag Wieers wrote:
I hope that everyone think back about the experience on their existing laptop and add it to the wiki, and document everything when doing future laptop installations.
I created a Template (no, David G. Miller did) at http://wiki.centos.org/LaptopTemplate.
Standard procedure for adding your content goes like this:
a) create yourself a wiki account b) shout at me to give you editing rights under http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops c) Navigate to the page http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Manufacturer/Model (replacing Manufacturer and Model with your Laptop info, for example Acer/T8674587G) d) You are now prompted to create a new page: Please choose LaptopTemplate from the list you are presented. e) Fill out the information f) Link to the page from the main Laptops page
Thanks, David!
Cheers,
Ralph
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 15:55:18 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Dag Wieers wrote:
I hope that everyone think back about the experience on their existing laptop and add it to the wiki, and document everything when doing future laptop installations.
I created a Template (no, David G. Miller did) at http://wiki.centos.org/LaptopTemplate.
Standard procedure for adding your content goes like this:
a) create yourself a wiki account b) shout at me to give you editing rights under http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops c) Navigate to the page http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Manufacturer/Model (replacing Manufacturer and Model with your Laptop info, for example Acer/T8674587G) d) You are now prompted to create a new page: Please choose LaptopTemplate from the list you are presented. e) Fill out the information f) Link to the page from the main Laptops page
Thanks, David!
Cheers,
Ralph
I have a HP510 notebook. I run Mandriva Linux on it. Would it be worth me down loading the live version of CentOS and adding my experience to the wiki?
On Friday 14 December 2007 12:36:41 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
John Bowden wrote:
I have a HP510 notebook. I run Mandriva Linux on it. Would it be worth me down loading the live version of CentOS and adding my experience to the wiki?
We only have ze5377 and zv6015 at the moment, so yes, why not?
Cheers,
Ralph
Ok I will download it in the morning when I get home from work and have a play with it early next week.
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