Hello,
I've got a new centos 6 system it's i386 and I'm wanting to update it's lamp stack, specifically httpd, php, and mysql. Also, if postfix as an MTA would be available that's a plus.
I've checked out the centos wiki and it looks like I have two choices for third party repos for this task. I have enabled rpmforge as of now. The two repos I'm seeing are Les RPM de Remi repository, and IUS Community Repo.
I'm wanting from user's who have used either or both impressions, pro conn of both and which you'd prefer.
Thanks. Dave.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM, David Mehler dave.mehler@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I've got a new centos 6 system it's i386 and I'm wanting to update it's lamp stack, specifically httpd, php, and mysql. Also, if postfix as an MTA would be available that's a plus.
Postfix should be the default MTA. Sendmail is also available.
I've checked out the centos wiki and it looks like I have two choices for third party repos for this task. I have enabled rpmforge as of now. The two repos I'm seeing are Les RPM de Remi repository, and IUS Community Repo.
I'm wanting from user's who have used either or both impressions, pro conn of both and which you'd prefer.
I've used remi (only, so I can't compare) for ocsinventory-ng, glpi, and fusioninventory packages. Seems well-maintained with internal consistency but you may run into conflicts with EPEL(etc.) packages that expect older php versions.
Hi,
Thanks. Is there a repo with updated postfix rpms, 2.9 or 2.10?
Also, do you have remi and epel activated constantly or just when you want to check for updates manually to those installed packages?
Thanks. Dave.
On 2/15/13, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM, David Mehler dave.mehler@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I've got a new centos 6 system it's i386 and I'm wanting to update it's lamp stack, specifically httpd, php, and mysql. Also, if postfix as an MTA would be available that's a plus.
Postfix should be the default MTA. Sendmail is also available.
I've checked out the centos wiki and it looks like I have two choices for third party repos for this task. I have enabled rpmforge as of now. The two repos I'm seeing are Les RPM de Remi repository, and IUS Community Repo.
I'm wanting from user's who have used either or both impressions, pro conn of both and which you'd prefer.
I've used remi (only, so I can't compare) for ocsinventory-ng, glpi, and fusioninventory packages. Seems well-maintained with internal consistency but you may run into conflicts with EPEL(etc.) packages that expect older php versions.
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On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM, David Mehler dave.mehler@gmail.com wrote:
Also, do you have remi and epel activated constantly or just when you want to check for updates manually to those installed packages?
I leave EPEL enabled and any other 3rd party repo disabled, using the --enablerepo= option to yum only when installing/updating specific packages. And I always make sure that the system is up to date from the base/epel repos before doing that. And even at that there are some epel packages that would cause conflicts if I tried to add them.
On 02/15/2013 05:36 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,
I've got a new centos 6 system it's i386 and I'm wanting to update it's lamp stack, specifically httpd, php, and mysql. Also, if postfix as an MTA would be available that's a plus.
I've checked out the centos wiki and it looks like I have two choices for third party repos for this task. I have enabled rpmforge as of now. The two repos I'm seeing are Les RPM de Remi repository, and IUS Community Repo.
I'm wanting from user's who have used either or both impressions, pro conn of both and which you'd prefer.
Before you ruin a seven year security plan for your server, I would suggest that you read and understand this Red Hat backporting article:
https://access.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/
The WHOLE purpose of CentOS is to provide secure server related packages for 7 years. Upgrading items like the LAMP stack is completely counter to what CentOS is designed for. I use some of Remi's stuff and I am not suggesting he does not do good work (he actually does great work) ... however, if you use his repo for the LAMP stack, now you will not be assured to get security updates for 7 years, or with compatibility/integration with other RPMs on your system, etc. You will only get updates when he pushes them and only get security updates that he finds and decides to roll in. Again, I am not saying that is bad, just asking what happens if he gets hired to sell cars next week and stops doing updates? Please do not take this as a negative to those repos ... it could be any 3rd party app. I like 3rd party things too, but they are far from assured to be there next week, next month, or next year ... let alone for 7 years.
I would recommend that if you want the latest and greatest LAMP stack that you use a latest and greatest type distribution like Fedora. I know, you don't want to change the OS every 6 to 18 months ... BUT ... actually you probably do. You want later versions of major server packages, and if you want them now, I assume you will want them again in the future. At least Fedora would provide security updates during the period you have it installed and all the packages will work together, etc.
Now, it is your machine and you get to tell me how stupid my advise is and do whatever you want. I just want to make sure you have seem what backporting is, why it is being used instead of just newer versions of the software released, and what problems can be encountered when one decides to go outside the main distro for server related things.
On 02/16/2013 02:38 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote:
The WHOLE purpose of CentOS is to provide secure server related packages for 7 years. Upgrading items like the LAMP stack is completely counter
.. the main problem is very _old_ version of mysql and php ?
old is not insecure ... because of backporting
On 2/16/2013 2:02 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 02/16/2013 02:38 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote:
The WHOLE purpose of CentOS is to provide secure server related packages for 7 years. Upgrading items like the LAMP stack is completely counter
.. the main problem is very_old_ version of mysql and php ?
old is not insecure ... because of backporting
indeed, the only reason I'd run an alternate httpd or php or whatever would be if I had to run some package that REQUIRED the newer version.