Why would it uhh ave been tossed in the first place?.....I'm assuming SOMETHING was amiss.....and forced the trashing of this equip.
----- Reply message ----- From: "Fernando Cassia" fcassia@gmail.com To: "CentOS mailing list" centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Old HP Xeon server blade with only SCSI HDD ports & CentOS Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 10:42 am
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:38 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Another thought: *carefully* examine the m/b. Techie friends have talked at length about capacitors burning out.
It's in mint condition.... not even too much dust on the blade fans... The caps are all OK as well...
That's why I picked up in the first place. Would hate to see it sold as metal junk and torn to pieces with a large sledgehammer.
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, eoconnor25@gmail.com eoconnor25@gmail.comwrote:
Why would it uhh ave been tossed in the first place?...
I imagine it was something like: UW SCSI devices are nowhere to be found on the local market -which I've been able to confirm by doing a simple search on local auctions site and eBay wannabe mercadolibre-.
Probably their HDDs died and they asked for a quote to the local HP branch and found the price quoted unacceptable (surely the local HP branch is stocked on those drives, but being scarce and expensive to import on demand, they surely save them to high-value customers with hardware maintenance and support contracts... so if you're one of those high value customers, surely you get replacement UWSCSI drives, if you're a tiny shop maybe you're told "sorry, we don't have any"). But I'm just guessing, painting a possible scenario.
Plus, importing used ones from eBay, which would have been the normal route in this case, is, well, increasingly difficult down here. It´s hard to explain the rationale of the irrational => www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-25836208
Or perhaps someone got a kickback for buying a new server so the old one NEEDED to be deemed obsolete. The awful truth about the realities of this world. Follow the money. A third possibility is "new admin doesn't have a clue about the old kit, so he wants to get rid of it so he can buy something simpler he does understand, and since he's the "expert" in charge and nobody knows better -read the book "Peter's principle"-, they take his word as gospel."
Of course I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just thinking aloud of possible scenarios :).
I'm just happy of finding some nice kit for $0. ;)
Dumpster diving is a common practice, I do it often. I've been able to find nice stepper motors and power supplies from tossed inkjet and laser printers, for instance.
Dumpster Diving: beware, it's an addiction ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXg5MdYMbHs FC
I've retired all the older xeon "P4" class hardware from my development lab as its increasingly unreliable as it gets older than 5 years old. a huge 6000 watt chassis of 8 dual single core servers with 8gb max ram each can *easily* be replaced with a single 1U or 2U server with dual 8 core processors and 128gb ram and vmware or whatever.
On Apr 12, 2014, at 10:03 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
I've retired all the older xeon "P4" class hardware from my development lab as its increasingly unreliable as it gets older than 5 years old. a huge 6000 watt chassis of 8 dual single core servers with 8gb max ram each can *easily* be replaced with a single 1U or 2U server with dual 8 core processors and 128gb ram and vmware or whatever.
Dual 8 core? Try dual 10 core (40 virtual cores) with 384G RAM and up to 32T of disk space in 2U. And that's just the server-of-the-line Dell stuff.
And every time the server lines get refreshed, the servers get more and more capable.
... and take longer to boot. Sigh.
--Russell
Thank you John, that is what I think all the time. But as it is a play-project where he tries to get that trash running at all (...)
btw, I looked it up for you guys, my toaster has 1,2KW, my water-cooker was the one with 2,2KW ;-)
In the HP-blade-configurator, one blade-server that you described has 141W, but 2 with an enclosure with 2 PDU needs 625W AC-in max. I am sure you can expect real power-consumption far below that.
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] Im Auftrag von John R Pierce Betreff: Re: [CentOS] Old HP Xeon server blade with only SCSI HDD ports & CentOS
I've retired all the older xeon "P4" class hardware from my development lab as its increasingly unreliable as it gets older than 5 years old. a huge 6000 watt chassis of 8 dual single core servers with 8gb max ram each can *easily* be replaced with a single 1U or 2U server with dual 8 core processors and 128gb ram and vmware or whatever.
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