On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 05:38:35PM -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 09:30:09PM -0500, Jim Perrin wrote:
On 06/20/2014 08:37 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
I've installed MATE desktop (and related packages) from epel on my C7 VM, just to see how it works on C7.
The answer I've got is "not too well", but I fear I may have done something wrong.
Before I go any further, is it not toally unreasonable to ask this here? or should I be banished to redhat bugzilla?
It's not really a 'centos-development' type question, so it's not really on topic here. It would be more appropriate on the general mailing list. It's something I'm reasonably close to though, so if you'd ask your questions there, I'd be happy to try to help.
thanks Jim. You mean the Centos list, or epel list?
I've got it to the point where when I log in I get top and bottom panels, and desktop wallpaper. But nothing is drawn in front of the wallpaper, and right-click context menu on the desktop doesn't do anything. Everything that I can access thru a panel icon, a panel menu, or a terminal seems to be working.
It was built in epel-devel against the beta I believe, which has a bit of turn-over from the rc and the final code we're building against for the open qa builds. It may be that it simply needs to cycle through the build system again.
I did log on epel IRC and talked with "wolfy" about it, but he didn't have any firm answers (several good suggestions, though).
If you can ask on the main mailing list, I'll try to help as best I can. Worst case, it will give me something to point out to the MATE maintainer for epel that won't vanish like irc logs.
OK, here on the general Centos list, I have one more thing to add to the above:
I was chatting on the epel list about it, didn't get a lot of help (no reflection on those there) but smooge said he might have time to look into it next week.
Also, someone else from the centos list sent private email that he had had the same problem and thought it might be a caja problem, but had not gone any further than that.
So, I opened a terminal and started caja. Voila! not only did a caja window open, but the desktop icons appeared, and the right-click menu. however when I closed the terminal it all went away. :(
so I did ALT-F2 and typed in "caja", hit enter, and there's the full desktop again. and this time it stayed.
from these symptoms I don't think I can tell if it's a caja problem, or an issue with whoever starts up caja after login (something in systemd ???)
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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 05:47:02PM -0400, Fred Smith wrote: <big snippage>
I've got it to the point where when I log in I get top and bottom panels, and desktop wallpaper. But nothing is drawn in front of the wallpaper, and right-click context menu on the desktop doesn't do anything. Everything that I can access thru a panel icon, a panel menu, or a terminal seems to be working.
There is a workaround for this problem:
Use ALT-F2 to open a prompt, type in "caja" (without the quotes) and voila, the desktop icons appear, and a right-click context menu too, aas well as an instance of caja. close the caja and the desktop remains.
This isn't the way it should work, but it is at least usable.
Hi,
I don't think that is a problem related to systemd, its mate-session job to start the necessary stuff. I worked around this by adding caja to the Startup Applications. I imagine it could be done relatively easy to add a script or something to enable that globally.
HTH Lucian
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So, I opened a terminal and started caja. Voila! not only did a caja window open, but the desktop icons appeared, and the right-click menu. however when I closed the terminal it all went away. :(
so I did ALT-F2 and typed in "caja", hit enter, and there's the full desktop again. and this time it stayed.
from these symptoms I don't think I can tell if it's a caja problem, or an issue with whoever starts up caja after login (something in systemd ???)
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:55:10AM +0100, Nux! wrote:
Hi,
I don't think that is a problem related to systemd, its mate-session job to start the necessary stuff. I worked around this by adding caja to the Startup Applications. I imagine it could be done relatively easy to add a script or something to enable that globally.
yes, that works. thanks for the hint.
I had actually had fleeting thoughts in that neighborhood, but didn't actually try it becauase I was more interested in finding someone to whom to report it who was in a position to find and correct the problem.
The reason I'm messing with C7 at all is to see if I can find reportable problems.
thanks, again, for the hint!
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