system: hp compact dc7800 dual 64 bit cd/dvd: oem sata -- recognized as atapi dvd c dh48c2s sata5 cd/dvd: lg gp60ns50 usb dvd -- recognized as hl-dt-st dvdram gp60ns50
attempting install using centos 6.7 x86_64 netinstall.
after 'installation method' with 'local cd/dvd' selected, famous 'disc not found' shows.
attempt eject cd with eject button fails. ejecting disc drawer with paper clip and closing drawer, selecting 'ok' fails again with 'disc not found'.
iirc, there is a way to correct, but do not recall procedure.
advice greatly appreciated.
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De: "g" geleem@bellsouth.net À: "centos" centos@centos.org Envoyé: Jeudi 3 Mars 2016 23:46:10 Objet: [CentOS] 6.7 netinstall fails at insert cd to continue
system: hp compact dc7800 dual 64 bit cd/dvd: oem sata -- recognized as atapi dvd c dh48c2s sata5 cd/dvd: lg gp60ns50 usb dvd -- recognized as hl-dt-st dvdram gp60ns50
attempting install using centos 6.7 x86_64 netinstall.
after 'installation method' with 'local cd/dvd' selected, famous 'disc not found' shows.
Did you try to disconnect the USB device before booting the station ? Perhaps it's detected before the SATA one.
I never had problem with this kind of workstations.
Sylvain. Pensez ENVIRONNEMENT : n'imprimer que si ncessaire
On 03/04/16 07:26, Sylvain CANOINE wrote:
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De: "g" geleem@bellsouth.net À: "centos" centos@centos.org Envoyé: Jeudi 3 Mars 2016 23:46:10 Objet: [CentOS] 6.7 netinstall fails at insert cd to continue
system: hp compact dc7800 dual 64 bit cd/dvd: oem sata -- recognized as atapi dvd c dh48c2s sata5 cd/dvd: lg gp60ns50 usb dvd -- recognized as hl-dt-st dvdram gp60ns50
attempting install using centos 6.7 x86_64 netinstall.
after 'installation method' with 'local cd/dvd' selected, famous 'disc not found' shows.
Did you try to disconnect the USB device before booting the station ? Perhaps it's detected before the SATA one.
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yes. made no diff.
I never had problem with this kind of workstations.
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i have, and why i pulled both netinstall and live dvd.
what i went thru:
after having retried cd in sata drive and repeat of failure, i created a usb drive on laptop.
started install from usb drive. all was well until finished assigning partitions and oking format, 'disc not found' again. selected usb as disk sdd9 [usb ports are sdd] and clicking format, 'disc not found' again.
<ctrl+alt+delete>, held system at media select, burned a second cd with netinstall iso.
inserted a netinstall cd in both drives, usb stick in usb port.
1st attempt was from sata cd drive failed with 'disc not found', tried selecting cd drive, failed. tried selecting usb cd drive, failed. tried selecting usb stick, failed as above.
2nd attempt was from usb cd drive, failed. tried selecting sata drive, failed. tried selecting usb drive, failed. tried selecting usb stick, failed.
3rd attempt was from usb stick, failed as above. when thru all selecting from all as above, failed.
<ctrl+alt+delete>, held system at media select, burned a dvd with live dvd iso. when i pulled netinstall iso, i also pulled live dvd, just to have if needed. cyoa. :-D
put live dvd in sata cd drive, selected install from boot menu, so i now have 6.6 on desktop.
i do not consider such as solving problem, but it was a solution. ((GBWG))
thank you for your replying.
On 03/05/16 09:04, Chris Murphy wrote:
You don't say how you created the media.
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true, i did not say how i created cd's.
i used k3b as it is easier, less to remember, than using command line.
usb's sticks were created using unetbootin and fedora-liveusb-creator. yes, i did not mention that i tried with 2 usb sticks. failure was same, did not feel it mattered. failure is failure.
Also netinstall used the network as source, not from CD/DVD. So you should just leave the source selection on default.
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so you are saying that netinstall is incorrectly written because it ask for a cd and not an internet connection? i would think that the dev's would have corrected the wording being that netinstall has been a part of last 2 or 3 versions.
'selection on default'? do not recall seeing anything related to such.
On Sat, Mar 05, 2016 at 12:48:17PM -0600, g wrote:
On 03/05/16 09:04, Chris Murphy wrote:
You don't say how you created the media.
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true, i did not say how i created cd's.
<snip>
so you are saying that netinstall is incorrectly written because it ask for a cd and not an internet connection? i would think that the dev's would have corrected the wording being that netinstall has been a part of last 2 or 3 versions.
'selection on default'? do not recall seeing anything related to such.
The last time I used the netinstall CD (on Centos 6, not very many months ago) it asked for a URL, not a CD.
On 03/05/16 20:22, Fred Smith wrote:
On Sat, Mar 05, 2016 at 12:48:17PM -0600, g wrote:
On 03/05/16 09:04, Chris Murphy wrote:
You don't say how you created the media.
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true, i did not say how i created cd's.
<snip> > so you are saying that netinstall is incorrectly written because it ask > for a cd and not an internet connection? i would think that the dev's > would have corrected the wording being that netinstall has been a part > of last 2 or 3 versions. > > 'selection on default'? do not recall seeing anything related to such.
The last time I used the netinstall CD (on Centos 6, not very many months ago) it asked for a URL, not a CD.
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why am i not surprised. :-D
what got bombed was originally installed as 4.5 via dvd. so i have not had 'joy' of knowing the problems of a fresh install in a while.
i am glad to say that by chance, day before problems i did run a 'yum list installed'. i am about 40% of getting system back to where it was.
is there an easy way of running yum from a list instead of entering package names? entering names in groups of 5 to avoid problems is a bit slow.
something else interesting about fresh install, i installed 6.5 dvd1 on my laptop without any problems.
Date: Saturday, March 05, 2016 22:27:36 -0600 From: g geleem@bellsouth.net
what got bombed was originally installed as 4.5 via dvd. so i have not had 'joy' of knowing the problems of a fresh install in a while.
i am glad to say that by chance, day before problems i did run a 'yum list installed'. i am about 40% of getting system back to where it was.
is there an easy way of running yum from a list instead of entering package names? entering names in groups of 5 to avoid problems is a bit slow.
something else interesting about fresh install, i installed 6.5 dvd1 on my laptop without any problems.
You may want to look at the yum "shell" option (man yum-shell).
The dvd iso and netinstall approaches are very different. The dvd has everything while netinstall assumes you pull the packages from somewhere. If I'm doing more than one machine I always pull all the packages to a local machine and use that for my netinstll source.
On 03/06/16 14:48, Richard wrote: <<>>
You may want to look at the yum "shell" option (man yum-shell).
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interesting.
would you presume that something like this might run?
yum-shell install < pkg-list.file
The dvd iso and netinstall approaches are very different. The dvd has everything while netinstall assumes you pull the packages from somewhere. If I'm doing more than one machine I always pull all the packages to a local machine and use that for my netinstll source.
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aware if use/purpose of netinstall. as stated, used netinstall on laptop with 6.5 without problems.
may have been because it only has 1 cd/dvd drive and 3 usb ports. where as desktop has 1 sata cd/dvd and 7 usb ports with 1 cd/dvd at port 7.
thanks for replying.
Using boot pxe or netinstall with online mirror ;) Em 06/03/2016 8:12 PM, "g" geleem@bellsouth.net escreveu:
On 03/06/16 14:48, Richard wrote: <<>>
You may want to look at the yum "shell" option (man yum-shell).
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interesting.
would you presume that something like this might run?
yum-shell install < pkg-list.file
The dvd iso and netinstall approaches are very different. The dvd has everything while netinstall assumes you pull the packages from somewhere. If I'm doing more than one machine I always pull all the packages to a local machine and use that for my netinstll source.
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aware if use/purpose of netinstall. as stated, used netinstall on laptop with 6.5 without problems.
may have been because it only has 1 cd/dvd drive and 3 usb ports. where as desktop has 1 sata cd/dvd and 7 usb ports with 1 cd/dvd at port 7.
thanks for replying.
-- peace out.
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Date: Sunday, March 06, 2016 17:12:24 -0600 From: g geleem@bellsouth.net
On 03/06/16 14:48, Richard wrote: <<>>
You may want to look at the yum "shell" option (man yum-shell).
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interesting.
would you presume that something like this might run?
yum-shell install < pkg-list.file
Read the man page. What you are suggesting is not how it works.
The dvd iso and netinstall approaches are very different. The dvd has everything while netinstall assumes you pull the packages from somewhere. If I'm doing more than one machine I always pull all the packages to a local machine and use that for my netinstll source.
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aware if use/purpose of netinstall. as stated, used netinstall on laptop with 6.5 without problems.
may have been because it only has 1 cd/dvd drive and 3 usb ports. where as desktop has 1 sata cd/dvd and 7 usb ports with 1 cd/dvd at port 7.
Actually what you said was:
something else interesting about fresh install, i installed 6.5 dvd1 on my laptop without any problems.
so did you do (are you doing) a netinstall, or an install from DVD?
Isn't DVD1 a bootable iso and, along with DVD2, a comprehensive package set? I.e., if you have DVD1 (and ideally 2) why would you do a netinstall?
The Centos-7 netinstall iso at least does give an option for using a cd/dvd based iso as the package source, but the default is one of a range of network based options.
On 03/06/16 19:19, Richard wrote:
Date: Sunday, March 06, 2016 17:12:24 -0600 From: g geleem@bellsouth.net On 03/06/16 14:48, Richard wrote: <<>>
You may want to look at the yum "shell" option (man yum-shell).
interesting.
would you presume that something like this might run?
yum-shell install < pkg-list.file
Read the man page. What you are suggesting is not how it works.
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i read the 'man yum-shell' and that is what brought me to the question.
have you tried "yum-shell install < pkg-list.file" and know for a fact that such will not work?
Actually what you said was:
something else interesting about fresh install, i installed 6.5 dvd1 on my laptop without any problems.
so did you do (are you doing) a netinstall, or an install from DVD?
Isn't DVD1 a bootable iso and, along with DVD2, a comprehensive package set? I.e., if you have DVD1 (and ideally 2) why would you do a netinstall?
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my bad for confusion. for past 4-5 days, my biorhythms have been off, my back is giving me great pain so i am taking oxyc to help bare with pain, i am more tired than i should be while trying to make an install and now trying to respond, so i did not feel like going into great detail, even tho i now see that i should have. please excuse.
i should have written that 1st install to laptop was with dvd1, and i did not allocate enough space for all of what i wanted, so i used a gparted live cd to rebuild partitions. in so doing, i wiped 1st install, made 1 less partition so i could have larger partitions for later install of what ever. centos 7.x along with knoppix 7.6.1 will be among them.
second install was with netinstall, after i updated, i pulled in rest of progs i wanted. i just did not have same netinstall with desktop.
as for dvd1 and dvd2, what you get when you pull the dvd iso's is seldom latest of progs. unless date is within a day or 2 of current date. even then there is no guarantee.
as an example, ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/centos/7.2.1511/isos/x86_64/ is latest loaded and it is from nov 2015. knowing that there are a number of updates from that time, netinstall is better way of installing.
The Centos-7 netinstall iso at least does give an option for using a cd/dvd based iso as the package source, but the default is one of a range of network based options.
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all in all, no one should expect to find all the latest up on mirrors. such would take up too many hours of hard labor to keep mirrors updated, not to mention waste of band width. mirrors have never been know to be current and it is in now practical to keep them current, even for the updates.
Date: Sunday, March 06, 2016 21:32:15 -0600 From: g geleem@bellsouth.net
On 03/06/16 19:19, Richard wrote:
Date: Sunday, March 06, 2016 17:12:24 -0600 From: g geleem@bellsouth.net On 03/06/16 14:48, Richard wrote: <<>>
You may want to look at the yum "shell" option (man yum-shell).
interesting.
would you presume that something like this might run?
yum-shell install < pkg-list.file
Read the man page. What you are suggesting is not how it works.
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i read the 'man yum-shell' and that is what brought me to the question.
have you tried "yum-shell install < pkg-list.file" and know for a fact that such will not work?
"shell" is a yum command, invoked as shown below. I don't believe there is any program called "yum-shell" (even though that is the man page reference).
shell Is used to enter the 'yum shell', when a filename is specified the contents of that file is executed in yum shell mode. See yum-shell(8) for more info.
SYNOPSIS yum shell [filename]
The contents of the file need to be standard yum-acceptable lines. I.e., the lines of a package list would need to be edited to include "install " and/or input continuation characters, etc.
On 03/06/16 22:15, Richard wrote: <<>>
"shell" is a yum command, invoked as shown below. I don't believe there is any program called "yum-shell" (even though that is the man page reference).
shell Is used to enter the 'yum shell', when a filename is specified the contents of that file is executed in yum shell mode. See yum-shell(8) for more info.
SYNOPSIS yum shell [filename]
The contents of the file need to be standard yum-acceptable lines. I.e., the lines of a package list would need to be edited to include "install " and/or input continuation characters, etc.
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ok. so how about;
yum shell install < pkginstalllist.file
On 03/07/16 01:54, John R Pierce wrote:
On 3/6/2016 8:25 PM, g wrote:
ok. so how about;
yum shell install < pkginstalllist.file
yum install $(cat pkginstallist.file)or yum install `cat pkginstallist.file`
should work unless that list is stupid long.
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all i can say is "yum install $(cat pkginstallist.file)" worked 'slicker than owl poop'. :-D
my bad in that i did not think to redirect output to catch packages that where not available. there where maybe 12 such, so it was not a problem to 'drag and drop' names while yum output scrolled.
now all i have to do is figure out what packages are for and where i loaded them from, which a web search on names should answer.
primarily, what is missing are cad, eda and spice progs.
thank you for reply. i most gratefully appreciate your help.
and i thank and appreciate others who replied.
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 9:27 PM, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 03/05/16 20:22, Fred Smith wrote:
On Sat, Mar 05, 2016 at 12:48:17PM -0600, g wrote:
On 03/05/16 09:04, Chris Murphy wrote:
You don't say how you created the media.
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true, i did not say how i created cd's.
<snip> > so you are saying that netinstall is incorrectly written because it ask > for a cd and not an internet connection? i would think that the dev's > would have corrected the wording being that netinstall has been a part > of last 2 or 3 versions. > > 'selection on default'? do not recall seeing anything related to such.
The last time I used the netinstall CD (on Centos 6, not very many months ago) it asked for a URL, not a CD.
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why am i not surprised. :-D
what got bombed was originally installed as 4.5 via dvd. so i have not had 'joy' of knowing the problems of a fresh install in a while.
i am glad to say that by chance, day before problems i did run a 'yum list installed'. i am about 40% of getting system back to where it was.
is there an easy way of running yum from a list instead of entering package names? entering names in groups of 5 to avoid problems is a bit slow.
yum group list
and
yum group list hidden
and then
yum group install "group name goes here" "another group name goes here"
something else interesting about fresh install, i installed 6.5 dvd1 on my laptop without any problems.
It contains the packages on the media. Netinstalls grab the latest versions of the packages. If you do a netinstall, and then a yum upgrade after rebooting, nothing needs to be updated. If you download even CentOS 6.7 and do a yum upgrade a bunch of stuff will get replaced.
On 03/06/16 19:47, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 9:27 PM, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
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is there an easy way of running yum from a list instead of entering package names? entering names in groups of 5 to avoid problems is a bit slow.
yum group list
and
yum group list hidden
and then
yum group install "group name goes here" "another group name goes here"
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that looks doable, except after haven read man you again for 'group', at this time it is a little more than i feel up to dealing with.
after replying to both your post, i am going to try using redirect;
yum-shell install < pkgnames.file
if works, great. if not, at least i will know yum-shell does not work with redirect input.
something else interesting about fresh install, i installed 6.5 dvd1 on my laptop without any problems.
It contains the packages on the media. Netinstalls grab the latest versions of the packages. If you do a netinstall, and then a yum upgrade after rebooting, nothing needs to be updated. If you download even CentOS 6.7 and do a yum upgrade a bunch of stuff will get replaced.
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that seems to be what i seem to recall.
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 11:48 AM, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 03/05/16 09:04, Chris Murphy wrote:
You don't say how you created the media.
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true, i did not say how i created cd's.
i used k3b as it is easier, less to remember, than using command line.
OK.
usb's sticks were created using unetbootin and fedora-liveusb-creator. yes, i did not mention that i tried with 2 usb sticks. failure was same, did not feel it mattered. failure is failure.
No, unetbootin is pretty unreliable. I've actually not had it work reliably with Fedora ISOs since forever, but I mainly use (U)EFI systems is possibly why, but it doesn't appear to rewrite the bootloader stuff correctly at all. At this point I've totally given up on it.
Fedora liveusb-creator ought to work. But... And it's also currently undergoing a rewrite. The most reliable way to create USB stick media for CentOS and Fedora is dd.
Also netinstall used the network as source, not from CD/DVD. So you should just leave the source selection on default.
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so you are saying that netinstall is incorrectly written because it ask for a cd and not an internet connection?
Seems suspicious to me yes. A netinstall uses a network source, there are no packages on the netinstall media itself.
i would think that the dev's would have corrected the wording being that netinstall has been a part of last 2 or 3 versions.
'selection on default'? do not recall seeing anything related to such.
OK I just ran the CentOS 6.7 netinstall ISO in gnome-boxes and it's not the graphical anaconda that I'm used to with Fedora. There's an "installation method" and it has Local CD/DVD selected at the top, but that clearly needs to be set to URL or it's simply not a netinstall. And then you need to give it a URL for a mirror, like this: http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/centos-6-netinstall-network-insta...
This is preconfigured in Fedora for their netinstalls. I have no idea how CentOS does it, but it doesn't appear to be ready to go.
On 03/06/16 19:45, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 11:48 AM, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
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usb's sticks were created using unetbootin and fedora-liveusb-creator. yes, i did not mention that i tried with 2 usb sticks. failure was same, did not feel it mattered. failure is failure.
No, unetbootin is pretty unreliable. I've actually not had it work reliably with Fedora ISOs since forever, but I mainly use (U)EFI systems is possibly why, but it doesn't appear to rewrite the bootloader stuff correctly at all. At this point I've totally given up on it.
Fedora liveusb-creator ought to work. But... And it's also currently undergoing a rewrite. The most reliable way to create USB stick media for CentOS and Fedora is dd.
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now that i think about it, it was fedora liveusb-creator usb that worked on laptop. my recall has not been up to norm these last few days. :-(
so you are saying that netinstall is incorrectly written because it ask for a cd and not an internet connection?
Seems suspicious to me yes. A netinstall uses a network source, there are no packages on the netinstall media itself.
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aware. now i am wondering just how i got it installed with netinstall. right now, i am still wore out, oxyc out, chemo-brain, my thinking may now be what i thought.
i would think that the dev's would have corrected the wording being that netinstall has been a part of last 2 or 3 versions.
'selection on default'? do not recall seeing anything related to such.
OK I just ran the CentOS 6.7 netinstall ISO in gnome-boxes and it's not the graphical anaconda that I'm used to with Fedora. There's an "installation method" and it has Local CD/DVD selected at the top, but that clearly needs to be set to URL or it's simply not a netinstall. And then you need to give it a URL for a mirror, like this: http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/centos-6-netinstall-network-insta...
This is preconfigured in Fedora for their netinstalls. I have no idea how CentOS does it, but it doesn't appear to be ready to go.
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centos devs are a little slow with some things, but quick on others. for sure, if it is a security risk, they get on top of them and 'out the door'. i subscribe to 'announce' for both and centos is usually within 24 hours when a security notice is out.
<snip>
This it is a very easy process to create an installable usb key:
1. Download the iso file from a mirror.
2. Check the sha256sum with this from the command line:
sha256sum <isoname>
3. verify the output is the same as this list (for CentOS-6.7):
http://mirror.centos.org/centos-6/6.7/isos/x86_64/sha256sum.txt.asc
4. Find the name of your USB stick, from the command line (as root) you can do:
fdisk -l | grep Disk | grep dev | grep -v mapper
You can also use the GUI disk tool
5. Use this dd command to copy to a usb stick:
dd if=<path_to_iso_file> of=/dev/<drive> bs=4M
so if the usb device for the key is /dev/sdc , and you are at the CLI and in the directory where the iso file is at (as the root user), then the command to copy the NetInstall iso file to usb is:
dd if=./CentOS-6.7-x86_64-netinstall.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M
Netbootin may or may not work (I have had problems trying to use it), but just dd'ing the iso file to a usb stick will.
On 03/07/16 09:06, Johnny Hughes wrote:
This it is a very easy process to create an installable usb key:
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yes, it is. for some reason or other, i seldom remember to use it. too much using gui desktop. ;-)
for sure, this reply and reply from John R Pierce are being added to my 'tricks and toolkit' collection because my 'chemo brain' is forgetting too much of what my 'near photographic' memory used to remember.
thank you for reply and info. very much appreciated.
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