Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and CentOS 5.5. He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the Linux realm.
Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he have to print anything. On the rare occasion when he had to print a paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO, save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess up for him before sending him back to school.
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
Dave M
On 08/16/10 11:50 AM, David McGuffey wrote:
Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and CentOS 5.5. He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the Linux realm.
Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he have to print anything. On the rare occasion when he had to print a paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO, save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess up for him before sending him back to school.
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
campus doesn't have all sorts of networked printers?!? I know the CSU my son goes to has printers all over the place.
Most Brother printers have Linux support, so do most HP printers. Brother's B&W Lasers have the cheapest per page costs of about any printer out there, they are ugly but they just work.
John R Pierce wrote:
On 08/16/10 11:50 AM, David McGuffey wrote:
Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and CentOS 5.5. He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the Linux realm.
Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he have to print anything. On the rare occasion when he had to print a paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO, save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess up for him before sending him back to school.
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
campus doesn't have all sorts of networked printers?!? I know the CSU my son goes to has printers all over the place.
Most Brother printers have Linux support, so do most HP printers. Brother's B&W Lasers have the cheapest per page costs of about any printer out there, they are ugly but they just work.
Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
Bob McConnell N2SPP
On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
USB printers are more likely to require special drivers. Ethernet printers less likely.
However... Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they have one port per bunk in the dorms). Under these conditions, using an ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, yada yada. blah!
I run a Brother HL-2040 by usb cable at home. Works fine out of the box.
Lyle E. Utt OSU Foundation Systems & Database Administrator Phone (541) 737-2921 Fax (541) 737-0498 mailto:Lyle.Utt@oregonstate.edu
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:21 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5
On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
USB printers are more likely to require special drivers. Ethernet printers less likely.
However... Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they have one port per bunk in the dorms). Under these conditions, using an ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, yada yada. blah!
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On 08/16/10 4:23 PM, Utt, Lyle wrote:
I run a Brother HL-2040 by usb cable at home. Works fine out of the box.
and its replacement HL-2140 is $79 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-2140-Personal-Laser-Printer/dp/B0010Z1W06 has linux CUPS and LPR drivers http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html and uses the same TN-360 2500 page toners as my MFC...
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 16:30 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
On 08/16/10 4:23 PM, Utt, Lyle wrote:
I run a Brother HL-2040 by usb cable at home. Works fine out of the box.
and its replacement HL-2140 is $79 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-2140-Personal-Laser-Printer/dp/B0010Z1W06 has linux CUPS and LPR drivers http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html and uses the same TN-360 2500 page toners as my MFC...
After reading numerous responses and checking with "linuxprinting" (now "openprinting") I'll probably try to find a Brother B&W laser and avoid the inkjet models.
The boy has in the past, saved the files to a USB stick, gone to a campus computer lab (they are in nearly every building these days), and printed there. Since he lives off-campus, that is about the same PITA as rebooting to Win7 and using MS Office to print the document(s).
The low-end Cannon printer he has came bundled with the laptop through the campus bookstore (his freshman year). Hind-sight is always 20-20, and knowing what I know now, I would not have allowed him to purchase the bundle. The younger son (2 years behind) went to school with a Mac, no printer, and prints from the campus network.
Thanks to all who responded.
Dave M
Hi,
I have heard the European Cannon web sites have Linux drivers whereas the US sites do not. I have not verified this but it might be worth a look. Peace, Allan
David McGuffey wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 16:30 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
On 08/16/10 4:23 PM, Utt, Lyle wrote:
I run a Brother HL-2040 by usb cable at home. Works fine out of the box.
and its replacement HL-2140 is $79 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-2140-Personal-Laser-Printer/dp/B0010Z1W06 has linux CUPS and LPR drivers http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html and uses the same TN-360 2500 page toners as my MFC...
After reading numerous responses and checking with "linuxprinting" (now "openprinting") I'll probably try to find a Brother B&W laser and avoid the inkjet models.
The boy has in the past, saved the files to a USB stick, gone to a campus computer lab (they are in nearly every building these days), and printed there. Since he lives off-campus, that is about the same PITA as rebooting to Win7 and using MS Office to print the document(s).
The low-end Cannon printer he has came bundled with the laptop through the campus bookstore (his freshman year). Hind-sight is always 20-20, and knowing what I know now, I would not have allowed him to purchase the bundle. The younger son (2 years behind) went to school with a Mac, no printer, and prints from the campus network.
Thanks to all who responded.
Dave M
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On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 22:06 -0400, David McGuffey wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 16:30 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
On 08/16/10 4:23 PM, Utt, Lyle wrote:
I run a Brother HL-2040 by usb cable at home. Works fine out of the box.
and its replacement HL-2140 is $79 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-2140-Personal-Laser-Printer/dp/B0010Z1W06 has linux CUPS and LPR drivers http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html and uses the same TN-360 2500 page toners as my MFC...
After reading numerous responses and checking with "linuxprinting" (now "openprinting") I'll probably try to find a Brother B&W laser and avoid the inkjet models.
The boy has in the past, saved the files to a USB stick, gone to a campus computer lab (they are in nearly every building these days), and printed there. Since he lives off-campus, that is about the same PITA as rebooting to Win7 and using MS Office to print the document(s).
The low-end Cannon printer he has came bundled with the laptop through the campus bookstore (his freshman year). Hind-sight is always 20-20, and knowing what I know now, I would not have allowed him to purchase the bundle. The younger son (2 years behind) went to school with a Mac, no printer, and prints from the campus network.
Thanks to all who responded.
Ended up with a Brother HL-2170W. Downloaded the PPD file and put it in the right place, and it "just worked" with CUPS on the usb cable.
Thanks again...and this is a reminder why the CentOS mailing list is such a good deal.
Dave M
John R Pierce wrote:
On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
USB printers are more likely to require special drivers. Ethernet printers less likely.
However... Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they have one port per bunk in the dorms). Under these conditions, using an ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, yada yada. blah!
I wonder if that is because they are charging by the page for printer and copier use. They don't want students to come in and bypass the fee based services.
Yes, I know they claim it is a security issue. But as long as they allow MS-Windows systems on their network, I am not going to believe them.
Bob McConnell
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:21:27 -0700 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
USB printers are more likely to require special drivers. Ethernet printers less likely.
Most USB *printers* use the USB 'printer' protocol. You would still need a 'driver' (actually a PostScript => raster filter) for non-Postscript printers (eg: inkjets). I would guess that USB *laser* *PostScript* printers would use the USB printer protocol and would not need a special 'driver' -- the Linux kernel knows how to talk to a USB 'printer' device (HAL's hotplug code creats a /dev/usb/lpN device file automagically).
However... Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they have one port per bunk in the dorms). Under these conditions, using an ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, yada yada. blah!
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Yes, this is true. I have an HP LJ1200. When the parallel port crapped out the USB port worked fine using postscript. Peace, Allan
Robert Heller wrote:
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:21:27 -0700 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
USB printers are more likely to require special drivers. Ethernet printers less likely.
Most USB *printers* use the USB 'printer' protocol. You would still need a 'driver' (actually a PostScript => raster filter) for non-Postscript printers (eg: inkjets). I would guess that USB *laser* *PostScript* printers would use the USB printer protocol and would not need a special 'driver' -- the Linux kernel knows how to talk to a USB 'printer' device (HAL's hotplug code creats a /dev/usb/lpN device file automagically).
However... Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they have one port per bunk in the dorms). Under these conditions, using an ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, yada yada. blah!
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At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:06:38 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
John R Pierce wrote:
On 08/16/10 11:50 AM, David McGuffey wrote:
Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and CentOS 5.5. He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the Linux realm.
Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he have to print anything. On the rare occasion when he had to print a paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO, save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess up for him before sending him back to school.
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
campus doesn't have all sorts of networked printers?!? I know the CSU my son goes to has printers all over the place.
Most Brother printers have Linux support, so do most HP printers. Brother's B&W Lasers have the cheapest per page costs of about any printer out there, they are ugly but they just work.
Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
Yes, HP *Laser* printers are OK. It is their *Inkjets* that suck, both because of driver stupidity *AND* wicked *expensive* ink carts -- HP seems to have the highest priced ink jet carts and is *very* 'protective' of their supplies market -- they forced Staples to NOT carry third-party ink carts for their printers, threatening to withdraw HP as a brand of printer Staples could carry (smells like Kodak's Brownie games way back when).
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I think *all* inkjets are cash cows for the cartridge manufacturers. Just my two cents. Allan
Robert Heller wrote:
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:06:38 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
John R Pierce wrote:
On 08/16/10 11:50 AM, David McGuffey wrote:
Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and CentOS 5.5. He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the Linux realm.
Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he have to print anything. On the rare occasion when he had to print a paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO, save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess up for him before sending him back to school.
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
campus doesn't have all sorts of networked printers?!? I know the CSU my son goes to has printers all over the place.
Most Brother printers have Linux support, so do most HP printers. Brother's B&W Lasers have the cheapest per page costs of about any printer out there, they are ugly but they just work.
Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
Yes, HP *Laser* printers are OK. It is their *Inkjets* that suck, both because of driver stupidity *AND* wicked *expensive* ink carts -- HP seems to have the highest priced ink jet carts and is *very* 'protective' of their supplies market -- they forced Staples to NOT carry third-party ink carts for their printers, threatening to withdraw HP as a brand of printer Staples could carry (smells like Kodak's Brownie games way back when).
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At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:50:32 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and CentOS 5.5. He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the Linux realm.
Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he have to print anything. On the rare occasion when he had to print a paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO, save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess up for him before sending him back to school.
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
Almost any *new* *inket* printer is going to be a hassle to get working under CentOS. HPs are actually the worst -- HP has some anal business of hardwiring in model numbers in the driver (or some such nonsense), even when a new model uses the same driver protocols as an older model, so you need a 'new' driver, even when the old driver would otherwise work. Yes, the driver is open source, but the pre-built binaries use bleeding edge system libraries and the sources are a bear to build and install from source (and will of course screw with yum & rpm).
Now, B&W *PostScript* *Laser* printers are universal. (And don't in fact need a 'driver' at all under Linux). Over the long haul, Laser printers are actually *cheaper* to use than even the cheapest Inkjet. Really. The only downside is Laser printers are somewhat bulker that low-end inkjets.
*I'd* suggest getting the $250 Brother model I got, HL-5370DW, I just plugged it in, configured dhcpd, and spent two minutes with CUPS, and was printing away (CentOS 5). (This model also has USB and parallel port interfaces, but you'll need to get a cable.) I also suspect that the toner cart it comes will will last the whole shool year, maybe even for the rest of your son's college years. (Unlike the inkjet carts which will probably need replacing after 2-3 long term papers.)
Dave M
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Robert Heller heller@deepsoft.com wrote:
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:50:32 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and CentOS 5.5. He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the Linux realm.
Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he have to print anything. On the rare occasion when he had to print a paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO, save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess up for him before sending him back to school.
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
Almost any *new* *inket* printer is going to be a hassle to get working under CentOS. HPs are actually the worst -- HP has some anal business of hardwiring in model numbers in the driver (or some such nonsense), even when a new model uses the same driver protocols as an older model, so you need a 'new' driver, even when the old driver would otherwise work. Yes, the driver is open source, but the pre-built binaries use bleeding edge system libraries and the sources are a bear to build and install from source (and will of course screw with yum & rpm).
Now, B&W *PostScript* *Laser* printers are universal. (And don't in fact need a 'driver' at all under Linux). Over the long haul, Laser printers are actually *cheaper* to use than even the cheapest Inkjet. Really. The only downside is Laser printers are somewhat bulker that low-end inkjets.
*I'd* suggest getting the $250 Brother model I got, HL-5370DW, I just plugged it in, configured dhcpd, and spent two minutes with CUPS, and was printing away (CentOS 5). (This model also has USB and parallel port interfaces, but you'll need to get a cable.) I also suspect that the toner cart it comes will will last the whole shool year, maybe even for the rest of your son's college years. (Unlike the inkjet carts which will probably need replacing after 2-3 long term papers.)
Dave M
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Or, just buy a small flash stick and go to a computer lab at school to print stuff out. That was what I did. Or get a brother laser jet, I have a HL-2040.
On 08/16/10 2:00 PM, Ed Donahue wrote:
*I'd* suggest getting the $250 Brother model I got, HL-5370DW, I just
aftermarket toners work great in Brother B&W lasers, too, even cheaper per page cost. I got this tip from a friend who did IT while in the USCG, they use Brother printers exclusively (lowest bidder) and the cheapest bulk supplies they could get, and had no problems with the printers.
On my MFC-74345N (a networked all-in-one I got at Costco a couple years ago), I get about 2000 pages per $20 toner, and 6 toners per $50 drum. This is so much cheaper than HP printers its not funny. This MFC is a great fax machine, scanner (can scan multipage documents directly to a PDF, my wife loves that part) too.
Robert Heller wrote:
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:50:32 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Almost any *new* *inket* printer is going to be a hassle to get working under CentOS. HPs are actually the worst -- HP has some anal business of hardwiring in model numbers in the driver (or some such nonsense), even when a new model uses the same driver protocols as an older model, so you need a 'new' driver, even when the old driver would otherwise work. Yes, the driver is open source, but the pre-built binaries use bleeding edge system libraries and the sources are a bear to build and install from source (and will of course screw with yum & rpm).
I have an HP OfficeJet Pro (all-in-one) at home and it runs fine under Linux. It was actually plug and play through USB. Also, before that, I had an old HP laser which I can't remember the model of, and again, no issues with it working under Linux. My experience has been pretty decent using HP printers and Linux.
Regards, Max
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Max Hetrick wrote:
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org From: Max Hetrick maxhetrick@verizon.net Subject: Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5
Robert Heller wrote:
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:50:32 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Almost any *new* *inket* printer is going to be a hassle to get working under CentOS. HPs are actually the worst -- HP has some anal business of hardwiring in model numbers in the driver (or some such nonsense), even when a new model uses the same driver protocols as an older model, so you need a 'new' driver, even when the old driver would otherwise work. Yes, the driver is open source, but the pre-built binaries use bleeding edge system libraries and the sources are a bear to build and install from source (and will of course screw with yum & rpm).
I have an HP OfficeJet Pro (all-in-one) at home and it runs fine under Linux. It was actually plug and play through USB. Also, before that, I had an old HP laser which I can't remember the model of, and again, no issues with it working under Linux. My experience has been pretty decent using HP printers and Linux.
Regards, Max
I'm running an HP Deskjet 810c on Fedora 12 with no problems. Was working under Fedora 8 until recent upgrade to F12.
Not tested on Centos 5.5 yet though. Still installing and testing that on my laptop.
Kind Regards,
Keith Roberts
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Greetings,
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, David McGuffey davidmcguffey@verizon.net wrote:
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
Dave M
I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux
Regards,
Rajagopal
I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux
Regards,
Rajagopal
i've only seen one (big laserjet color , c760 probably, postscript)
lexmark printer working in linux.
otoh, if a printer works in fedora does not meen it will work in centos. actually, at one point in time, after replacing fedora core 6 with centos 5, i've found out the lowend hp inkjet printer no longer works, so i had to replace it with fedora 9 (since it was faster than messing with hp* rpms that had yet to be build at that time.)
On 08/17/2010 12:51 AM cornel panceac wrote:
I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux Regards, Rajagopali've only seen one (big laserjet color , c760 probably, postscript) lexmark printer working in linux.
otoh, if a printer works in fedora does not meen it will work in centos. actually, at one point in time, after replacing fedora core 6 with centos 5, i've found out the lowend hp inkjet printer no longer works, so i had to replace it with fedora 9 (since it was faster than messing with hp* rpms that had yet to be build at that time.)
For about five years now I've been using an Epson Stylus Photo 820. It cost me $75 new back then and it's worked with CUPS from Day #1. And the "Photo" part of the name isn't BS. I've printed numerous 8x10" (bzw. 20.3x25.4 cm) photos and won photo contests with them, so there's no moaning over the quality of the print-outs. CUPS allows me to print in a variety of modes all the way down to a barely legible draft. It connects via USB, so when I wanted to print, I'd just turn it on and plug it into the laptop... then unplug it when I was done. It isn't a network printer, but just a few months ago I reconfigured it so that it's connected with a standard (pretty much legacy now) printer cable to an old dedicated print server I had laying around since the '90s (a little Lantronix EPS-2 100) and now it's on the network... so I don't have to plug in the USB anymore... if I'm on the network, it's already connected. (Yayah!) This printer's main downer is the cost of the cartridges: there's two, a black and a three-color, and they cost about 35US each. They don't last that long either. But for someone like me, who doesn't do paper much, that's okay.
To find out if a printer works on Linux, see http://linuxmanagers.blogspot.com/.
hth.
2010/8/17 ken gebser@mousecar.com:
On 08/17/2010 12:51 AM cornel panceac wrote:
I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux
Regards,
Rajagopal
i've only seen one (big laserjet color , c760 probably, postscript) lexmark printer working in linux.
otoh, if a printer works in fedora does not meen it will work in centos. actually, at one point in time, after replacing fedora core 6 with centos 5, i've found out the lowend hp inkjet printer no longer works, so i had to replace it with fedora 9 (since it was faster than messing with hp* rpms that had yet to be build at that time.)
Lexmark E120N (N = with network connection) works fine on osx, windows and also on linux.
-- Eero
At Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:12:31 +0530 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Greetings,
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, David McGuffey davidmcguffey@verizon.net wrote:
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
Dave M
I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux
It *used* to be that that *inkjets* were not. The *lasers* are all PostScript. (This might have changed since the last time *I* looked at Lexmark.)
Regards,
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Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux
Correct.
Even the cheapest Lexmark inkjets, like the $99 ones, have drivers and support available directly off Lexmark's website for Debian and Red Hat drivers.
Lexmark support is typically very good for Unix/Linux, and has been for quite some time.
Regards, Max
I noticed someone mentioned HP OfficeJet's. I have a J4580, which is not supported under Centos-5.5. (In fact, very few OfficeJet's seem to be supported.)
However, Dag Wieers pointed out that one has to install the latest hplip (together with hpijs and libsane) from http://packages.sw.be/hplip/.
I did this, and find the OfficeJet works perfectly now under CentOS.
At Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:40:04 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
I noticed someone mentioned HP OfficeJet's. I have a J4580, which is not supported under Centos-5.5. (In fact, very few OfficeJet's seem to be supported.)
However, Dag Wieers pointed out that one has to install the latest hplip (together with hpijs and libsane) from http://packages.sw.be/hplip/.
I did this, and find the OfficeJet works perfectly now under CentOS.
Yes, HP *InkJets* need 'bleeding edge' 'drivers' (which are really just means that the additional model *names* have been added to the 'driver'), along with the needed .ppd files for the new printers. I don't think the new printers require any new actual *code* -- they all use the same basic raster format and the same basic driver protocol (they all use the same GS ijs rasterizer).
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajsand@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, David McGuffey davidmcguffey@verizon.net wrote:
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux
Unless Lexmark printers have undergone a revolutionary transformation in terms of quality and long-term reliability, I would stick to Brothers and HPs.
My last experience with a Lexmark printer was about six years ago, and they were worth what I paid for them - next to nothing.
FWIW
Mark
Mark writes:
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajsand@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, David McGuffey davidmcguffey@verizon.net wrote:
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux
Unless Lexmark printers have undergone a revolutionary transformation in terms of quality and long-term reliability, I would stick to Brothers and HPs.
Actually they have! (they say):
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=lexmark_linux&num...
My last experience with a Lexmark printer was about six years ago, and they were worth what I paid for them - next to nothing.
FWIW
Mark _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:31 PM, nux@li.nux.ro wrote:
Mark writes:
Unless Lexmark printers have undergone a revolutionary transformation in terms of quality and long-term reliability, I would stick to Brothers and HPs.
Actually they have! (they say):
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=lexmark_linux&num...
The article doesn't address the quality and reliability issues, mainly just that Lexmark supplies drivers for certain Linux distros (not including CentOS, BTW). It's a big step in the right direction, but I'd like to know what they think of that printer after six months of moderate home use.
Mark
From: David McGuffey davidmcguffey@verizon.net
Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this laptop. Any suggestions?
Bought for the office an Epson C2800n (color laser) for something like 250€ (after rebates)... A bit big, but works fine, PS, 128MB of cache, networked (Windows and cups set it up auto-magicaly), descent speed, not too noisy, cheap in the long run... Ok... it is huge (24.0 Kg)... ^_^
JD
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