what is the proper approach to install on centos 5.4 a package that's newer than the currently supported one? at the moment, AFAICT, the latest "poppler-utils" package for centos is 0.5.4. however, the source is up to version 0.12:
http://poppler.freedesktop.org/
which matches the current fedora version, but that's not surprising since, naturally, fedora zips right along keeping up with that sort of thing.
however, i have a case where it's important that a newer version of poppler-utils (and, consequently) poppler be installed on a centos 5.4 box. someone has claimed he's done it by (gack! choke!) installing the fedora package. that just creeps me out. in any case, what would be the proper solution under centos? is there a "rawhide"/dev equivalent for centos? thanks.
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Robert P. J. Day wrote:
what is the proper approach to install on centos 5.4 a package that's newer than the currently supported one? at the moment, AFAICT, the latest "poppler-utils" package for centos is 0.5.4. however, the source is up to version 0.12:
http://poppler.freedesktop.org/
which matches the current fedora version, but that's not surprising since, naturally, fedora zips right along keeping up with that sort of thing.
however, i have a case where it's important that a newer version of poppler-utils (and, consequently) poppler be installed on a centos 5.4 box. someone has claimed he's done it by (gack! choke!) installing the fedora package. that just creeps me out. in any case, what would be the proper solution under centos? is there a "rawhide"/dev equivalent for centos? thanks.
You could get an SRPM from fedora and tryo to "rpmbuild --rebuild" it. Since poppler is a library, you may have to also rebuild any packages that depend on it (evince, poppler-utils and xfig on my system, maybe others on yours). You should do this as non-root, check out the centos wiki and list archive for details on that.
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
what is the proper approach to install on centos 5.4 a package that's newer than the currently supported one? at the moment, AFAICT, the latest "poppler-utils" package for centos is 0.5.4. however, the source is up to version 0.12:
http://poppler.freedesktop.org/
which matches the current fedora version, but that's not surprising since, naturally, fedora zips right along keeping up with that sort of thing.
however, i have a case where it's important that a newer version of poppler-utils (and, consequently) poppler be installed on a centos 5.4 box. someone has claimed he's done it by (gack! choke!) installing the fedora package. that just creeps me out. in any case, what would be the proper solution under centos? is there a "rawhide"/dev equivalent for centos? thanks.
You could get an SRPM from fedora and tryo to "rpmbuild --rebuild" it. Since poppler is a library, you may have to also rebuild any packages that depend on it (evince, poppler-utils and xfig on my system, maybe others on yours). You should do this as non-root, check out the centos wiki and list archive for details on that.
oh, i've built my share of rpms from source on fedora, that's not a problem. i'm just thinking of possible dependency issues. given how much newer the source rpm would be, i can only imagine what that new binary rpm might need in the way of newer dependencies that don't even exist under centos.
i'll give it a shot and see what happens. thanks.
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On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 07:11 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
what is the proper approach to install on centos 5.4 a package that's newer than the currently supported one?
I don't know if it's the "proper procedure", but I have compiled stuff from Fedora 11 and Fedora 12 on this Centos 5.4 machine. (geany, fbreader, vice, buoh, etc.) I found that I can't directly rebuild the srpm due to the different checksumming method that new Fedora uses, but it's easy to rip the F11/12 srpm apart by right-clicking on it with Natuilus and saying "extract". (I'm sure there is a commandline-method to do that too but this works and I never looked into it any further than that.)
Move the .spec file into ~/rpmbuild/SPECS and put the source into ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES. Edit the spec file if it needs any fixing, then "rpmbuild -ba myfile.spec". You now have a native Centos 5 rpm and srpm.
This wouldn't work with stuff that actually does have newer dependencies than Centos provides without being more work than it's probably worth, of course. Sylpheed is one example of this situation. Since the older version of Sylpheed that I did find for Centos (2.0.4) doesn't have bold text for unread message titles in the message listing window, I was rather disappointed. My solution was to move my email into Evolution instead.
The nice thing about recompiling F11/12 stuff on Centos is that Fedora distributes the latest versions of stuff and almost all of the packaging work is already done for you -- all you need to do is tear the Fedora srpm apart and rebuild it for Centos.
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