Rather off-topic, but I'm looking for IP-based KVMs (~16 ports) that can handle both PS/2 and USB hookups on the server side. All of the answers over at Slashdot are a few years out of date and it looks like prices on KVM head units have dropped a bit over the years.
Some of the older units only worked with Windows, Internet Explorer and ActiveX. Others like the ATEN KH1516i supposedly use Java and are far better from a cross-platform point of view.
I'm on the fence about the CAT5 cables over the more traditional style, it seems like the CAT5 cable system would give a lot more flexibility in dealing with USB vs PS/2 servers (or even serial only?). The bigger advantage with the CAT5 stuff seems to be fewer length limitations and less space used in the rack for the head unit.
I'm guessing that the CAT5 adapters are going to be proprietary?
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Thomas Harold thomas-lists@nybeta.com wrote:
Rather off-topic, but I'm looking for IP-based KVMs (~16 ports) that can handle both PS/2 and USB hookups on the server side. All of the answers over at Slashdot are a few years out of date and it looks like prices on KVM head units have dropped a bit over the years.
Some of the older units only worked with Windows, Internet Explorer and ActiveX. Others like the ATEN KH1516i supposedly use Java and are far better from a cross-platform point of view.
I'm on the fence about the CAT5 cables over the more traditional style, it seems like the CAT5 cable system would give a lot more flexibility in dealing with USB vs PS/2 servers (or even serial only?). The bigger advantage with the CAT5 stuff seems to be fewer length limitations and less space used in the rack for the head unit.
I'm guessing that the CAT5 adapters are going to be proprietary?
I'm using an Avocent DSR1020 and it works just fine. The admin console is web-based and works with Firefox, and the remote console app is java based. I've only used it on Windows, but I think any system with a java install would support it.
The way it works is that you buy the main console box, and then you buy dongles for each server that you need to control. Dongles can be VGA/PS2, VGA/USB, or VGA/Sun. They probably have other too. They all plug into a CAT5 cable on the back of the dongle and then into the main console unit. The dongles are proprietary, and there's no way you're going to get around that with any vendor.
I can't speak to CAT5 as far as length is concerned, as I'm only using it within the space of 1 rack, but I can say it's far easier to deal with CAT5 cables in a rack than the traditional type (very long fat VGA cables with additional PS2/USB cables glued on). They fit into cable management more easily, and with a rack full of servers you save a lot of space with thinner cables.
Overall using CAT5 is a lot easier, just don't make the mistake of thinking that it's ethernet. CAT5 just provides the wires, the signaling is proprietary and would probably fry an ethernet port if you plugged one in. I suggest using different color cables specifically for the KVM connections.
Overall using CAT5 is a lot easier, just don't make the mistake of thinking that it's ethernet. CAT5 just provides the wires, the signaling is proprietary and would probably fry an ethernet port if you plugged one in. I suggest using different color cables specifically for the KVM connections.
That may be true for the solution you know but certainly it is not true for many solutions out there. Look for "KVM over IP".
As a quick example, see this page:
http://www.lindy-usa.com/kvm/extenders-listed-by-features/kvm-over-ip/
You can even control equipment over the Internet.
That may be true for the solution you know but certainly it is not true for many solutions out there. Look for "KVM over IP".
As a quick example, see this page:
http://www.lindy-usa.com/kvm/extenders-listed-by-features/kvm-over-ip/
Miguel,
What you're referring to is accessing the KVM box itself via IP, which the Aten does allow. What Aten *also* does is use CAT5 cable to link the KVM switch to various adapters which plug into the server(s). It's the signalling on those lines that Brian was referring to, not remotely accessing the KVM itself.
What you're referring to is accessing the KVM box itself via IP, which the Aten does allow. What Aten *also* does is use CAT5 cable to link the KVM switch to various adapters which plug into the server(s). It's the signalling on those lines that Brian was referring to, not remotely accessing the KVM itself.
Ok! Sometimes we jump to conclusions without reading carefuly. Sorry! Thank you for the explanation.
2009/12/31 Brian Mathis brian.mathis@gmail.com:
I'm using an Avocent DSR1020 and it works just fine.
I'm quite happy with Avocent kit, but haven't tried it from non-IE browsers yet.
Ben
Thomas Harold wrote:
Rather off-topic, but I'm looking for IP-based KVMs (~16 ports) that can handle both PS/2 and USB hookups on the server side.
I've been using the AdderView CatX series of IP KVM's for quite a while. They are very good. http://www.adder.com/uk/catx-kvm-switches.aspx
Remote connection is via a VNC client (java based from the CatX device or a local install) and host connection is made via "Computer access modules" http://www.adder.com/uk/products/cam_ComputerAccessModule.aspx?sid=
ATB Dan
Thomas Harold wrote:
Rather off-topic, but I'm looking for IP-based KVMs (~16 ports) that can handle both PS/2 and USB hookups on the server side. All of the answers over at Slashdot are a few years out of date and it looks like prices on KVM head units have dropped a bit over the years.
my suggestion? get servers with an integrated TCP KVM, like Dell's DRAC, or HP's iLO (for which you need to spend $150 or so extra to enable 'advanced iLO'), and be done with it. not only KVM but virtual CD/DVD for installing, troubleshooting.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:11 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
Thomas Harold wrote:
Rather off-topic, but I'm looking for IP-based KVMs (~16 ports) that can handle both PS/2 and USB hookups on the server side. All of the answers over at Slashdot are a few years out of date and it looks like prices on KVM head units have dropped a bit over the years.
my suggestion? get servers with an integrated TCP KVM, like Dell's DRAC, or HP's iLO (for which you need to spend $150 or so extra to enable 'advanced iLO'), and be done with it. not only KVM but virtual CD/DVD for installing, troubleshooting.
Yup, that's the best way, but for older servers it's hard to add them, so a remote KVM and a remote power switch is sometimes the best you can do.
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