Dear Experts,
after quite some time of praising ownclowd, I started having problems with installing and updating desktop owncloud-client on CentOS. Namely, yum repository owncloud.org points to for rpm/yum based Linux distributions lives on suse.com site (well, for all flavors of Linux, actually). I remember it smelled fishy for me the first time I installed ownclouud on CentOS using that repository living at suse.com. It worked, however, for quite some time, but recently it just times out for me, even what owncloud.org currently gives as yum.repo information (which has changed from what was in the past).
Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?
Incidentally, another system - FreeBSD - I run on my laptop and workstation, has no trouble with owncloudclient package. But I have to give graduate students Linux, and prefer CentOS Linux, so I do need to make it work even if I end up compiling it all the time myself (sigh, I hope, not).
Thanks a lot in advance for all your help!
Valeri
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Le 20/09/2017 à 18:18, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
after quite some time of praising ownclowd, I started having problems with installing and updating desktop owncloud-client on CentOS. Namely, yum repository owncloud.org points to for rpm/yum based Linux distributions lives on suse.com site (well, for all flavors of Linux, actually). I remember it smelled fishy for me the first time I installed ownclouud on CentOS using that repository living at suse.com. It worked, however, for quite some time, but recently it just times out for me, even what owncloud.org currently gives as yum.repo information (which has changed from what was in the past).
Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?
Hi Valeri,
I'm using OwnCloud client on my workstation and my server, both running CentOS 7 with KDE.
I wrote a little blog article (in French) about installing and configuring OwnCloud.
https://blog.microlinux.fr/owncloud-centos-kde/
The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition period with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL package is regularly lagging behind.
Cheers,
Niki
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas Kovacs Sent: den 20 september 2017 18:55 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently
Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?
The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition period with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL package is regularly lagging behind.
Not just you Valeri. Thought it was a bit fishy as well, but figured I'd, as Nicolas mentions, doing a uninstall and then reinstall things might solve the problems.
-- //Sorin
On Thu, September 21, 2017 1:00 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas Kovacs Sent: den 20 september 2017 18:55 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently
Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?
The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition period with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL package is regularly lagging behind.
Not just you Valeri. Thought it was a bit fishy as well, but figured I'd, as Nicolas mentions, doing a uninstall and then reinstall things might solve the problems.
Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out on me...
Valeri
-- //Sorin _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Le 21/09/2017 à 17:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out on me...
As I said in a previous post, the EPEL OwnCloud client packages are lagging behind a bit, but so far, the only inconvenience are the nagging update notifications on startup.
Cheers,
Niki
On 09/21/2017 12:51 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Le 21/09/2017 à 17:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out on me...
As I said in a previous post, the EPEL OwnCloud client packages are lagging behind a bit, but so far, the only inconvenience are the nagging update notifications on startup.
Well, it must be noted that they do have to work with things in RHEL .. I have not looked if they are using SCLs. If not, they can't move to things that require newer languages, etc.
So sometimes, they have to lag.
On Thu, September 21, 2017 1:06 pm, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 09/21/2017 12:51 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Le 21/09/2017 à 17:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out on me...
As I said in a previous post, the EPEL OwnCloud client packages are lagging behind a bit, but so far, the only inconvenience are the nagging update notifications on startup.
Well, it must be noted that they do have to work with things in RHEL .. I have not looked if they are using SCLs. If not, they can't move to things that require newer languages, etc.
So sometimes, they have to lag.
And my thanks again to everybody who answered. The World started making sense (as far as owncloud is concerned) again for me ;-)
Valeri
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Am 21.09.2017 um 20:06 schrieb Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org:
On 09/21/2017 12:51 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Le 21/09/2017 à 17:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out on me...
As I said in a previous post, the EPEL OwnCloud client packages are lagging behind a bit, but so far, the only inconvenience are the nagging update notifications on startup.
Well, it must be noted that they do have to work with things in RHEL .. I have not looked if they are using SCLs. If not, they can't move to things that require newer languages, etc.
So sometimes, they have to lag.
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-announce@lists.fedoraproj...
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-announce@lists.fedoraproj...
-- LF
Le 21/09/2017 à 20:06, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
Well, it must be noted that they do have to work with things in RHEL .. I have not looked if they are using SCLs. If not, they can't move to things that require newer languages, etc.
So sometimes, they have to lag.
As far as I can tell, the main thing they had to deal with recently was the transition to Qt5. So far they managed it well, since all the dependencies are in some extra packages in their repo.
$ rpm -qa | grep ocqt ocqt562-libqt5-qtwebkit-5.6.2-11.3.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5Widgets5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5Concurrent5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5Gui5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5Core5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64 ocqt562-qt5keychain1-0.7.0-4.6.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5DBus5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5Xml5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5Sql5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5PrintSupport5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64 ocqt562-libQt5Network5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
Niki
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Valeri Galtsev Sent: den 21 september 2017 17:25 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently
On Thu, September 21, 2017 1:00 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas Kovacs Sent: den 20 september 2017 18:55 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently
Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?
The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition period with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL package is regularly lagging behind.
Not just you Valeri. Thought it was a bit fishy as well, but figured
I'd,
as Nicolas mentions, doing a uninstall and then reinstall things might
solve
the problems.
Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out on me...
Valeri
You're welcome.
I also use the yum-priorities plugin. I find it sometimes plays tricks on me. You might want to look into that and shuffle the set priorities, if you use it as well
-- //Sorin
On 22 September 2017 at 06:28, Sorin Srbu Sorin.Srbu@orgfarm.uu.se wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Valeri Galtsev Sent: den 21 september 2017 17:25 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently
On Thu, September 21, 2017 1:00 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas Kovacs Sent: den 20 september 2017 18:55 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently
Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find
workaround?
The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition
period
with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL package is regularly lagging behind.
Not just you Valeri. Thought it was a bit fishy as well, but figured
I'd,
as Nicolas mentions, doing a uninstall and then reinstall things might
solve
the problems.
Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing
out
on me...
Valeri
You're welcome.
I also use the yum-priorities plugin. I find it sometimes plays tricks on me. You might want to look into that and shuffle the set priorities, if you use it as well
-- //Sorin _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
I know that many prefer EPEL packages but sometimes life gets ahead of us...
So far as owncloud in EPEL/CentOS is concerned it's not actually lagging that badly ... the most recent 9.1.X release is 9.1.6 and it's only a few minor bugfixes for the large part over the 9.1.5 in the EPEL repo.
https://owncloud.org/changelog/
Do note that when I push 9.1.6 (which will be soon now I have a little time) it'll probably be close to the last owncloud package in EPEL7 at the least ... I'll include an EOL/retirement notice in the package when I get around to it and will mail here and epel-devel and epel-announce mailing lists.
The 10.x release of owncloud bumps the minimum PHP version to 5.6 ... which is obviously not in base repos and I'm not permitted to depend on packages in SCL or 3rd party repos in EPEL.
The nextcloud package is in a worse state as things stand ... the version that can be in EPEL is officially EOL ... I'll push out a 10.0.6 release soon with the EOL notice and email about this. From 11 onwards they require PHP5.6+ as well.
For now my recommendation for owncloud or nextcloud is to use their most recent manual tarball/zip install and PHP 7.1 from your preferred choice of IUS, RemiRepo or SCL ... or run their official containers.
I hope to have a container option soon(ish) as part of the Fedora Container Service initiative that would allow you to run the Fedora based version easily, which would bypass the PHP version issues.... but that needs me to have time to get all the dependency issues sorted and carry out the Fedora upgrades.
Reminder that I have a job and family and 2 year old daughter ... time to do all this is precious and if you want to see this happen then help is always welcome :)
James
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of James Hogarth Sent: den 22 september 2017 12:14 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently
I know that many prefer EPEL packages but sometimes life gets ahead of
us...
So far as owncloud in EPEL/CentOS is concerned it's not actually lagging that badly ... the most recent 9.1.X release is 9.1.6 and it's only a few minor bugfixes for the large part over the 9.1.5 in the EPEL repo.
https://owncloud.org/changelog/
Do note that when I push 9.1.6 (which will be soon now I have a little time) it'll probably be close to the last owncloud package in EPEL7 at the least ... I'll include an EOL/retirement notice in the package when I get around to it and will mail here and epel-devel and epel-announce mailing lists.
The 10.x release of owncloud bumps the minimum PHP version to 5.6 ... which is obviously not in base repos and I'm not permitted to depend on packages in SCL or 3rd party repos in EPEL.
The nextcloud package is in a worse state as things stand ... the version that can be in EPEL is officially EOL ... I'll push out a 10.0.6 release soon with the EOL notice and email about this. From 11 onwards they
require
PHP5.6+ as well.
For now my recommendation for owncloud or nextcloud is to use their most recent manual tarball/zip install and PHP 7.1 from your preferred choice
of
IUS, RemiRepo or SCL ... or run their official containers.
I hope to have a container option soon(ish) as part of the Fedora
Container
Service initiative that would allow you to run the Fedora based version easily, which would bypass the PHP version issues.... but that needs me to have time to get all the dependency issues sorted and carry out the Fedora upgrades.
Reminder that I have a job and family and 2 year old daughter ... time to do all this is precious and if you want to see this happen then help is always welcome :)
James
Just to make sure, I in no way complain about how things are with EPEL. I'm happy as is.
Take your time with the family, they are indeed precious. Failed OC and php installs and tests on the end-user side can be redone. :-)
-- //Sorin
Le 22/09/2017 à 12:14, James Hogarth a écrit :
I know that many prefer EPEL packages but sometimes life gets ahead of us...
So far as owncloud in EPEL/CentOS is concerned it's not actually lagging that badly ... the most recent 9.1.X release is 9.1.6 and it's only a few minor bugfixes for the large part over the 9.1.5 in the EPEL repo.
I was only referring to the OwnCloud client package, for which I prefer the OwnCloud repository.
For the server, I'm always doing manual installations, because it's more flexible that way.
https://blog.microlinux.fr/owncloud-centos/
Niki
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