Hey All,
I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7. I'm not interested in dealing with Gnome 3. I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of Gnome 2. it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository associated with CentOS 7.
Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7? In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:25:54PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
Hey All,
I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7. I'm not interested in dealing with Gnome 3. I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of Gnome 2. it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository associated with CentOS 7.
Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7? In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
I'm using Mate on several C7 systems. The only issue is that now I dont have to try to use that horrid Gnome thing they've inflicted on us! :)
On 09/29/2016 06:41 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:25:54PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
Hey All,
I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7. I'm not interested in dealing with Gnome 3. I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of Gnome 2. it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository associated with CentOS 7.
Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7? In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
I'm using Mate on several C7 systems. The only issue is that now I dont have to try to use that horrid Gnome thing they've inflicted on us! :)
I also run MATE on CentOS 7, for the same reasons.
Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering. For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the default C6 desktop until I installed:
fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
-Greg
On 09/29/2016 07:25 PM, Greg Bailey wrote:
On 09/29/2016 06:41 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:25:54PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
Hey All,
I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7. I'm not interested in dealing with Gnome 3. I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of Gnome 2. it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository associated with CentOS 7.
Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7? In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
I'm using Mate on several C7 systems. The only issue is that now I dont have to try to use that horrid Gnome thing they've inflicted on us! :)
I also run MATE on CentOS 7, for the same reasons.
Same here however with the my latest system build I set one account up to use GNOME 3 and it definitely has considerably improved since when CentOS 7 first shipped.
MATE is still better IMHO but I now have some hope for GNOME 3.
Still feels like it is trying to be a tablet OS but not quite as much.
I still couldn't figure out how to do things like get green text on black background in the Terminal (easy in Mate) or get the Applications menu with submenus - but it was easier to use than what initially shipped.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Greg Bailey Sent: den 30 september 2016 04:26 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering. For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the default C6 desktop until I installed:
fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
Thanks for the hint!
Is there however something fishy with the freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64? It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.
On 09/29/2016 11:21 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Greg Bailey Sent: den 30 september 2016 04:26 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering. For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the default C6 desktop until I installed:
fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
Thanks for the hint!
Is there however something fishy with the freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64? It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.
I hadn't noticed that it disappeared.
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55936
looks relevant, but I haven't experimented with "freetype-freeworld", whatever that is... the freetype-infinality RPM is apparently still available via the link posted in that forum.
-Greg
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Greg Bailey Sent: den 30 september 2016 08:30 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering. For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the default C6 desktop until I installed:
fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
Thanks for the hint!
Is there however something fishy with the freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64? It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.
I hadn't noticed that it disappeared.
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55936
looks relevant, but I haven't experimented with "freetype-freeworld", whatever that is... the freetype-infinality RPM is apparently still available via the link posted in that forum.
Thanks for the heads-up!
I'll give it a go during the day and see how it goes.
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Sorin Srbu" Sorin.Srbu@orgfarm.uu.se Aan: "CentOS mailing list" centos@centos.org Verzonden: Vrijdag 30 september 2016 09:39:30 Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Greg Bailey Sent: den 30 september 2016 08:30 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering. For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the default C6 desktop until I installed:
fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
Thanks for the hint!
Is there however something fishy with the freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64? It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.
I hadn't noticed that it disappeared.
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55936
looks relevant, but I haven't experimented with "freetype-freeworld", whatever that is... the freetype-infinality RPM is apparently still available via the link posted in that forum.
Thanks for the heads-up!
I'll give it a go during the day and see how it goes.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu Sent: den 30 september 2016 09:40 To: 'CentOS mailing list' centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
Thanks for the hint!
Is there however something fishy with the freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64? It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.
I hadn't noticed that it disappeared.
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55936
looks relevant, but I haven't experimented with "freetype-freeworld", whatever that is... the freetype-infinality RPM is apparently still available via the link posted in that forum.
Thanks for the heads-up!
I'll give it a go during the day and see how it goes.
Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.
Thanks!
Il 30/Set/2016 11:11, "Sorin Srbu" Sorin.Srbu@orgfarm.uu.se ha scritto:
Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.
Thanks!
-- //Sorin
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Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gianluca Cecchi Sent: den 30 september 2016 14:22 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.
Thanks!
Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?
Infinality.
It might be one of those imagination things. When I looked this morning I didn't see any Wow!-difference I did last week.
I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem: Disk Utility was not avail. I find Disk Utility very handy for managing RAID.
Does anyone know if the good ole Gnome 3 Disk Utility has a Mate equivalent?
thanks frank
On 10/03/2016 12:54 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gianluca Cecchi Sent: den 30 september 2016 14:22 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.
Thanks!
Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?
Infinality.
It might be one of those imagination things. When I looked this morning I didn't see any Wow!-difference I did last week.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Frank Saporito Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 15:00 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem: Disk Utility was not avail. I find Disk Utility very handy for managing RAID.
I have it on my C7-box. It's called "Disks" and is in the menu Applications - Utilities.
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 01:24:52PM +0000, Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Frank Saporito Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 15:00 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem: Disk Utility was not avail. I find Disk Utility very handy for managing RAID.
I have it on my C7-box. It's called "Disks" and is in the menu Applications - Utilities.
yes, I have that too, and it works. But I don't know if it is a Mate utility, or a Gnome utility. it isn't obvious to me.
doing "yum list installed" shows a couple of items that it could be, but I don't see anything named "disks" or including "disk" that also has the word Mate in its package name, so it may be from Gnome, or elsewhere.
Fred
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:52:22 -0400 Fred Smith wrote:
It's called "Disks" and is in the menu Applications - Utilities.
yes, I have that too, and it works. But I don't know if it is a Mate utility, or a Gnome utility. it isn't obvious to me.
You can load it from the command line as gnome-disks.
Since it works fine under Mate, at least for me, there's no reason not to use it.
I use it for formatting flash drives.
On 2016-10-04, Frank Saporito frank.saporito.md@gmail.com wrote:
I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem: Disk Utility was not avail. I find Disk Utility very handy for managing RAID.
Does anyone know if the good ole Gnome 3 Disk Utility has a Mate equivalent?
thanks frank
(Please don't top-post.)
You can use GNOME Disk Utility (package gnome-disk-utility) within a MATE session. It integrates quite nicely.
On 10/03/2016 12:54 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gianluca Cecchi Sent: den 30 september 2016 14:22 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.
Thanks!
Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?
Infinality.
It might be one of those imagination things. When I looked this morning I didn't see any Wow!-difference I did last week.
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The mate desktop is very good! On Sep 29, 2016 8:41 PM, "Fred Smith" fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:25:54PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
Hey All,
I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7. I'm not interested in dealing with Gnome 3. I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of Gnome 2. it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository associated with CentOS 7.
Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7? In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate
instead?
I'm using Mate on several C7 systems. The only issue is that now I dont have to try to use that horrid Gnome thing they've inflicted on us! :)
--
---- Fred Smith -- fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us
The Lord is like a strong tower. Those who do what is right can run to him for safety.--------------------------- Proverbs 18:10 (niv)
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On Sep 28, 2016, at 17:25, Mark LaPierre marklapier@gmail.com wrote:
In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
Giving up? A vast number of annoyances. Make the leap.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: den 29 september 2016 01:26 To: Mail List CentOS Users centos@centos.org; Mark LaPierre marklapier@aol.com Subject: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7. I'm not interested in dealing with Gnome 3. I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of Gnome 2. it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository associated with CentOS 7.
Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7? In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
Yupp, I have. First thing I did after C7-installation was to install the complete Mate-shebang. FWIW, I installed Ubuntu-Mate on my backup-laptop.
You're giving up a lot of grief and irritation when not finding stuff you've used for like ten years and having to relearn yet other things. It's just not worth the hassle IMO.
I'm yet to miss anything Gnome 3 has to offer. Gnome 3 might be good for some people, for others like me it's just a waste of time relearning stuff that worked just fine before Gnome 3.
On 09/28/16 19:25, Mark LaPierre wrote:
Hey All,
I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7. I'm not interested in dealing with Gnome 3. I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of Gnome 2. it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository associated with CentOS 7.
Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7? In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
You know, after I posted the original question I thought, Oh No! I've just started a flame war, but I'm glad to see that was not the case. It appears that everyone who responded is in general agreement on the subject. Greg Bailey even came up with a helpful hint on improving the font rendering on the desktop.
Thank you all for your input.
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Mark LaPierre kirjoitti 29.9.2016 2:25:
Hey All,
I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7. I'm not interested in dealing with Gnome 3. I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of Gnome 2. it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository associated with CentOS 7.
Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7? In your experienced opinion what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
Hm I use Ubuntu Gnome with Gnome 3 for my desktop. I use CentOS 7 for my servers yes, but somehow I like Ubuntu Gnome with Gnome 3 for desktop.
Glad that we have options...
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