Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
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Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 12:03 -0700 schrieb Florin Andrei:
Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
On 5.1 it took nearly 3 weeks so expect at least the same period of time for 5.2 - otherwise: it's done when it's done :D
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:03:23PM -0700, Florin Andrei enlightened us:
Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
When it's done. For crying out loud, upstream has only released 5.2 less than 24 hours ago.
It will be at least a couple of weeks for the builds to finish and preliminary QA to take place.
Can we please hold off on these questions until June at the very least?
Matt
Matt Hyclak wrote:
For crying out loud, upstream has only released 5.2 less than 24 hours ago.
I was just curious, I was not "demanding it right now" or anything like that.
Sorry if my inquiry seemed inconsiderate.
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 14:18 -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
Matt Hyclak wrote:
For crying out loud, upstream has only released 5.2 less than 24 hours ago.
I was just curious, I was not "demanding it right now" or anything like that.
Sorry if my inquiry seemed inconsiderate.
It didn't. Matt, and most of us I imagine, forget that we are in the "Now Generation" and have seen this "when will... be available" process so many times that it has become simultaneously laughable and irritating.
Having said that, there have been many discussions of this in the past and a quick google of site:centos.org would have yielded the "traditional" answer of 3 or four weeks after upstream release.
I've created a blog entry about the upcoming 5.2 release and when it well be ready.
You can find it at http://planet.centos.org/.
Regards, Tim
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 15:42 -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote:
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:03:23PM -0700, Florin Andrei enlightened us:
Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
When it's done. For crying out loud, upstream has only released 5.2 less than 24 hours ago.
It will be at least a couple of weeks for the builds to finish and preliminary QA to take place.
Can we please hold off on these questions until June at the very least?
LOL, it's *almost* funny how quick people start asking when the next version will come out when after upstream has released a new version.
I'm looking forward to some of the new apps & features, but I can wait the 2-3 weeks it usually takes.
Paul
Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
LOL, it's *almost* funny how quick people start asking when the next version will come out when after upstream has released a new version. Paul
What's so funny? I think it's a very relevant question. There are preparations to made. Mirror-disks should have enough space. Kickstart have to be modified. Users should be notified. Vacations should be put on hold... And not all of us have been on this list and have had this discussion every time a new release is due. Tim Verhoeven did the right thing and put a good answer at http://planet.centos.org/. Thanks!
/jens
On May 22, 2008, at 11:32 PM, Paul wrote:
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 15:42 -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote:
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:03:23PM -0700, Florin Andrei enlightened us:
Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
When it's done. For crying out loud, upstream has only released 5.2 less than 24 hours ago.
It will be at least a couple of weeks for the builds to finish and preliminary QA to take place.
Can we please hold off on these questions until June at the very least?
LOL, it's *almost* funny how quick people start asking when the next version will come out when after upstream has released a new version.
I'm looking forward to some of the new apps & features, but I can wait the 2-3 weeks it usually takes.
I wasn't expecting RHEL 5.2 yesterday, hadn't been giving it much thought. Then, saw report about a vulnerable SSL, saw that Red Hat had released a fix a couple days ago, and did a quick yum update, and got 685MB worth of updates :)
So I expect that I'll have nearly that many updates in a few weeks when the CentOS group can finalize their update.
Best wishes, don't work too hard this holiday weekend (in US).
Kevin
Florin Andrei wrote:
Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
I wanted to unsubscribe the first person who asks that question from this mailing list >:)
Do you have a good reason why I shouldn't do that to you? =:D
Okay, joking aside:
Answer: When it's ready. Longer answer: Up to now we always came out with a new version three to four weeks after upstream did the release. We need to rebuild the packages, do some basic QA, maybe do some more thorough QA after that, need to spin the ISOs, test those ISOs, push them out to our mirrors - and then the release will be there.
Cheers,
Ralph
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
Answer: When it's ready.
Suits me - I have a different question (and it's probably up somewhere I don't have time to look at the moment - I'll check when I get to work, but by then I'll have forgotten this question again).
Does 5.2 have an updated release of GDE with it?
Every so often, among other things, when I exit Evolution, it crashes, but Bug Buddy says it can't report the bug because my GDE is too old.
5.0 came with GDE 2.16.0. Gnome development is up to 2.23.1 (or later - I lost track).
So, does anyone know, off the top of their heads, or where I can look this up?
Thanks.
mhr
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:11:10AM -0700, MHR wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
Answer: When it's ready.
Suits me - I have a different question (and it's probably up somewhere I don't have time to look at the moment - I'll check when I get to work, but by then I'll have forgotten this question again).
Does 5.2 have an updated release of GDE with it?
Every so often, among other things, when I exit Evolution, it crashes, but Bug Buddy says it can't report the bug because my GDE is too old.
5.0 came with GDE 2.16.0. Gnome development is up to 2.23.1 (or later
- I lost track).
So, does anyone know, off the top of their heads, or where I can look this up?
My RHEL 5.2 machines show Gnome 2.16.0 still.
Ray
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:11 AM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
Answer: When it's ready.
Suits me - I have a different question (and it's probably up somewhere I don't have time to look at the moment - I'll check when I get to work, but by then I'll have forgotten this question again).
Does 5.2 have an updated release of GDE with it?
Every so often, among other things, when I exit Evolution, it crashes, but Bug Buddy says it can't report the bug because my GDE is too old.
5.0 came with GDE 2.16.0. Gnome development is up to 2.23.1 (or later
- I lost track).
RHEL-5 will probably be 2.16 til its end of life.
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:11 AM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
Answer: When it's ready.
Suits me - I have a different question (and it's probably up somewhere I don't have time to look at the moment - I'll check when I get to work, but by then I'll have forgotten this question again).
Does 5.2 have an updated release of GDE with it?
Every so often, among other things, when I exit Evolution, it crashes, but Bug Buddy says it can't report the bug because my GDE is too old.
5.0 came with GDE 2.16.0. Gnome development is up to 2.23.1 (or later
- I lost track).
RHEL-5 will probably be 2.16 til its end of life.
This is generally true .. the minor kde or gnome version (that is the 5 in kde-3.5.4 or the 16 in gnome-2.16.0) has never changed in a the same RHEL version in the past ...
HOWEVER, I have heard that RHEL-6 is a ways off and that RHEL 5.3 will continue to have major changes, even more pronounced than those in 5.2, so we will need to wait and see :D
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:11 AM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
Answer: When it's ready.
Suits me - I have a different question (and it's probably up somewhere I don't have time to look at the moment - I'll check when I get to work, but by then I'll have forgotten this question again).
Does 5.2 have an updated release of GDE with it?
Every so often, among other things, when I exit Evolution, it crashes, but Bug Buddy says it can't report the bug because my GDE is too old.
5.0 came with GDE 2.16.0. Gnome development is up to 2.23.1 (or later
- I lost track).
RHEL-5 will probably be 2.16 til its end of life.
This is generally true .. the minor kde or gnome version (that is the 5 in kde-3.5.4 or the 16 in gnome-2.16.0) has never changed in a the same RHEL version in the past ...
HOWEVER, I have heard that RHEL-6 is a ways off and that RHEL 5.3 will continue to have major changes, even more pronounced than those in 5.2, so we will need to wait and see :D
Well one can hope... Personally I would love to see KDE 3.5.9 pulled in as it is a lot more stable and robust then KDE 3.5.4.
KDE 4.0 is still way too immature even for RHEL 6, the interface still needs a lot of working out, polishing and the icons need to look more, well less like a child's software system.
I still prefer to use KDE 3.5 and 3.5.9 is definitely the way to go there.
-Ross
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Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:11 AM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
Answer: When it's ready.
Suits me - I have a different question (and it's probably up somewhere I don't have time to look at the moment - I'll check when I get to work, but by then I'll have forgotten this question again).
Does 5.2 have an updated release of GDE with it?
Every so often, among other things, when I exit Evolution, it crashes, but Bug Buddy says it can't report the bug because my GDE is too old.
5.0 came with GDE 2.16.0. Gnome development is up to 2.23.1 (or later
- I lost track).
RHEL-5 will probably be 2.16 til its end of life.
This is generally true .. the minor kde or gnome version (that is the 5 in kde-3.5.4 or the 16 in gnome-2.16.0) has never changed in a the same RHEL version in the past ...
HOWEVER, I have heard that RHEL-6 is a ways off and that RHEL 5.3 will continue to have major changes, even more pronounced than those in 5.2, so we will need to wait and see :D
Well one can hope... Personally I would love to see KDE 3.5.9 pulled in as it is a lot more stable and robust then KDE 3.5.4.
KDE 4.0 is still way too immature even for RHEL 6, the interface still needs a lot of working out, polishing and the icons need to look more, well less like a child's software system.
I still prefer to use KDE 3.5 and 3.5.9 is definitely the way to go there.
-Ross
Well hopefully the testing of KDE 4 in Fedora 9 will answer the issue of whether it is ready or not for RHEL6. Also, as RHEL6 is still a way off, and KDE 4 is developing fast, things _may_ have changed by the time it is released. But I do agree, atm I'd personally rather see KDE 3.5 included.
The other factor to consider is the long term support issues related to maintaining KDE 3.5 in RHEL6 given that I _think_ qt3 is already unsupported.
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