By chance, has there been any progress on a 5.0 version for an Ultra Sparc?
Chris wrote:
By chance, has there been any progress on a 5.0 version for an Ultra Sparc?
why not run solaris on a sparc? its a very _very_ good server kernel. opensolaris and solaris express are getting increasingly better at the user friendly thing.
otherwise, why run a sparc at all ?!?
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:58:18 -0700 John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
Chris wrote:
By chance, has there been any progress on a 5.0 version for an Ultra Sparc?
why not run solaris on a sparc? its a very _very_ good server kernel. opensolaris and solaris express are getting increasingly better at the user friendly thing.
otherwise, why run a sparc at all ?!?
Thanks for the non-answer.
Debian 4 supports sparc well, has done so for a long time...biggest problem is having to netboot the installer, since most sparc boxes won't get past the initial loader stages booting the kernel, it's some known SILO issue thats been going on for a while. Most distro's seems to falter after an initial release on sparc...and quickly drop the platform.
On 7/7/07, Chris racerx@makeworld.com wrote:
By chance, has there been any progress on a 5.0 version for an Ultra Sparc?
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On 7/9/07, Adam Breaux breauxaj@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/7/07, Chris racerx@makeworld.com wrote:
By chance, has there been any progress on a 5.0 version for an Ultra Sparc?
Debian 4 supports sparc well, has done so for a long time...biggest problem is having to netboot the installer, since most sparc boxes won't get past the initial loader stages booting the kernel, it's some known SILO issue thats been going on for a while. Most distro's seems to falter after an initial release on sparc...and quickly drop the platform.
aurora sparc linux seems to be still actively developed. I used it a few years ago and it wasn't bad at all.
Akemi
Akemi Yagi wrote:
On 7/9/07, Adam Breaux breauxaj@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/7/07, Chris racerx@makeworld.com wrote:
By chance, has there been any progress on a 5.0 version for an Ultra Sparc?
Debian 4 supports sparc well, has done so for a long time...biggest problem is having to netboot the installer, since most sparc boxes won't get past the initial loader stages booting the kernel, it's some known SILO issue thats been going on for a while. Most distro's seems to falter after an initial release on sparc...and quickly drop the platform.
aurora sparc linux seems to be still actively developed. I used it a few years ago and it wasn't bad at all.
Every time I feel like I have the time/energy to install Linux on an old Sparc box, I consider how much energy they use and how (relative to a modern PC) slow they now seem. Pretty amazing when you consider that the E450 that you'd now use to hold down paper once cost more than a luxury car. :)
Best,
On Monday 09 July 2007 15:57:32 Chris Mauritz wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
On 7/9/07, Adam Breaux breauxaj@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/7/07, Chris racerx@makeworld.com wrote:
By chance, has there been any progress on a 5.0 version for an Ultra Sparc?
Debian 4 supports sparc well, has done so for a long time...biggest problem is having to netboot the installer, since most sparc boxes won't get past the initial loader stages booting the kernel, it's some known SILO issue thats been going on for a while. Most distro's seems to falter after an initial release on sparc...and quickly drop the platform.
aurora sparc linux seems to be still actively developed. I used it a few years ago and it wasn't bad at all.
Every time I feel like I have the time/energy to install Linux on an old Sparc box, I consider how much energy they use and how (relative to a modern PC) slow they now seem. Pretty amazing when you consider that the E450 that you'd now use to hold down paper once cost more than a luxury car. :)
Best,
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Sorry to hijack this thread. I have got some old Sparc station 5's any one know of an o/s that I can install on them. I would like to learn all about clustering
John Bowden wrote:
Sorry to hijack this thread. I have got some old Sparc station 5's any one know of an o/s that I can install on them. I would like to learn all about clustering
SS5 or Sun Ultra 5 ?
the SS5 is way WAY old (discontinued in 1996), 70Mhz and used oddball memory, 8 x 8MB (64MB total) or 8 x 32MB (256MB total maximum), and used SBus peripherals, you'd be better off with pentium-II systems. clusters generally need multiple network adapters at the very least.
The Ultra 5 is somewhat newer, with a 270-400MHz ultrasparc IIi and support for up to 512MB ram,, but was penalized (heavily!) by using a programmed IO IDE channel controller (no DMA). It also requires nonstandard RAM (EDO DRAM with ECC in a 168 pin jedec form factor), very hard to find.
anyways, I think you'd have better luck trying to bring up a test cluster using old x86 PCs.
John R Pierce wrote:
Sorry to hijack this thread. I have got some old Sparc station 5's any one know of an o/s that I can install on them. I would like to learn all about clustering
anyways, I think you'd have better luck trying to bring up a test cluster using old x86 PCs.
or just a bunch of VM's on your laptop :)
- KB
On Monday 09 July 2007 22:47:05 Karanbir Singh wrote:
John R Pierce wrote:
Sorry to hijack this thread. I have got some old Sparc station 5's any one know of an o/s that I can install on them. I would like to learn all about clustering
anyways, I think you'd have better luck trying to bring up a test cluster using old x86 PCs.
or just a bunch of VM's on your laptop :)
- KB
Actually I never thought of taking this route. I have a tower with an AMD 3ghz ht cpu in it just trying to sort out the sound card chip on it at the moment. Thanks for the idea, I will hand back the thread now.
On Monday 09 July 2007 22:41:04 John R Pierce wrote:
John Bowden wrote:
Sorry to hijack this thread. I have got some old Sparc station 5's any one know of an o/s that I can install on them. I would like to learn all about clustering
SS5 or Sun Ultra 5 ?
the SS5 is way WAY old (discontinued in 1996), 70Mhz and used oddball memory, 8 x 8MB (64MB total) or 8 x 32MB (256MB total maximum), and used SBus peripherals, you'd be better off with pentium-II systems. clusters generally need multiple network adapters at the very least.
Yes exactly what I have, with massive 520Mb hard drives ;-) The architecture is completely new to me
The Ultra 5 is somewhat newer, with a 270-400MHz ultrasparc IIi and support for up to 512MB ram,, but was penalized (heavily!) by using a programmed IO IDE channel controller (no DMA). It also requires nonstandard RAM (EDO DRAM with ECC in a 168 pin jedec form factor), very hard to find.
anyways, I think you'd have better luck trying to bring up a test cluster using old x86 PCs.
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I think I will get rid of them as I have some old 333mhz boards. thanks for the reply. I will hand back the thread now
On 7/7/07, Chris racerx@makeworld.com wrote:
By chance, has there been any progress on a 5.0 version for an Ultra Sparc?
At this point, I do not know of any effort towards a Sparc version. The problems in getting usable documentation and determined developers. I would probably look at Debian for your best support chances... they hopefully have enough interested developers towards that platform. I dealt with Sparc a while back... and while it is a beauty in someways.. the various models and chipsets are more propietary than an iPhone.
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