Some people don't know how to conduct themselves on usenet and mailing lists. Despite the mailing list guidelines being crystal clear about no html posting and not top-posting we have people still doing so. People still use text-readers to access the mailing list so you could be denying access to these people by flouting the mailing list guidelines.
This is an example of top-posting http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-January/070494.html
There are legitimate newbies who top-post because they know no different and can acquaint themselves with the mailing list guidelines at http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16
Maybe the guidelines can updated to say trimming of emails as well and maybe link to examples on Wikipedia of top-posting and bottom-posting.
Newbies aside, there are guys still top-posting who have ignored polite offlist messages not to top-post. Its not the time to be nannying people over how to behave on mailing list.
Regards, Vandaman.
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:14:22AM +0000, Vandaman wrote:
Its not the time to be nannying people over how to behave on mailing list.
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David.Mackintosh@xdroop.com wrote on Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:57:18 -0500:
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good answer.
Kai
David Mackintosh wrote:
From: David.Mackintosh@xdroop.com David.Mackintosh@xdroop.com On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:14:22AM +0000, Vandaman wrote:
Its not the time to be nannying people over how to behave on mailing list.
</irony>
What is your contribution to the topic? Or are you one of those who has been top-posting and posting in html?
Regards, Vandaman.
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 05:35:38PM +0000, Vandaman wrote:
What is your contribution to the topic? Or are you one of those who has been top-posting and posting in html?
Hmmm... I appear to be:
- posting in non-HTML text - bottom posting - trimming
I presume that if you are truely interested in my transgressions, ten minutes with google will provide you with ample evidence for a summary execution.
I merely found it ironic that you concluded a nag about people's behavior on a mailing list by saying it wasn't the time to be complaining about people's behavior on a mailing list.
True, it would have been MORE ironic if your rant had been in HTML, but I guess that's too much to hope for.
Would you like the joke explained to you in more detail?
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Vandaman vandaman2002-sk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
David Mackintosh wrote:
<irrelevant banter> Would you like the joke explained to you in more detail?
What time will your mummy come home. You should not be playing on a mailing list like this. :-)
We have the serious business of CentOS to talk about.
You must chill, you must chill.
This is just a mailing list, one of millions, not the UN General Assembly.
-Ross
Vandaman wrote:
David Mackintosh wrote:
<irrelevant banter> Would you like the joke explained to you in more detail?
What time will your mummy come home. You should not be playing on a mailing list like this. :-)
We have the serious business of CentOS to talk about.
Did I already tell you to please tone down a bit?
Ralph
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Vandaman vandaman2002-sk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
David Mackintosh wrote:
<irrelevant banter> Would you like the joke explained to you in more detail?
What time will your mummy come home. You should not be playing on a mailing list like this. :-)
We have the serious business of CentOS to talk about.
Well, there goes the neighborhood....
No more fun aloud here!
<snicker>
mhr
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 20:25 -0800, MHR wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Vandaman vandaman2002-sk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
David Mackintosh wrote:
<irrelevant banter> Would you like the joke explained to you in more detail?
What time will your mummy come home. You should not be playing on a mailing list like this. :-)
We have the serious business of CentOS to talk about.
Well, there goes the neighborhood....
No more fun aloud here!
<snicker>
---- This type of post is equally offensive
Craig
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com wrote:
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 20:25 -0800, MHR wrote:
Well, there goes the neighborhood....
No more fun aloud here!
<snicker>
This type of post is equally offensive
OMG! :-}
I realize that my obviously feeble attempt at humor wasn't all that great, but offensive? Really?
This is email - it is relatively flat and utterly lacking in tone (ignoring smilies and as long as civilized language is used). Thus, offense is largely in the mind of the reader. Suppose you read the post as if it were NOT intended to be offensive - would it still be so? I doubt it.
Yes, we have serious work to do here, both in asking and in answering questions and issues regarding CentOS and various parts of and attached to it. Does that also mean that we are not permitted to enjoy the list?
I also realize that some people on this list at one time or another are under tremendous stress, and occasionally (or often) jump at small things with overkill reactions - I've done that enough in other past lives and make a conscious effort to avoid it now, in most cases with most people, especially those who are special, either to me or for other reasons, like the CentOS developers.
Sometimes people get carried away with tangents or completely off-topic issues, or just plain rude behavior. Regardless of my pathetic attempt at humor, it was not rude and was not aimed as an insult to anyone in particular (I rather like Mr. Vandaman, even if he comes across to me as a bit stiff at times - so do I), a gentle reminder is usually sufficient to guide a person or a whole thread back to something useful.
Speaking of which, I think this one has run its course and, if continued, will do no good. Shall we not end it and get back to real CentOS questions and issues?
Thanks.
mhr
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 20:25 -0800, MHR wrote:
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Well, there goes the neighborhood....
No more fun aloud here!
What's wrong with silent fun? >;-)
In fact, from my experience on this list, some fun would be much more appreciated if it were silent, but not all of course.
<snicker>
mhr
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*Whut do U mean? I don't get it lol.*
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:57 PM, David.Mackintosh@xdroop.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:14:22AM +0000, Vandaman wrote:
Its not the time to be nannying people over how to behave on mailing list.
</irony>
-- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | dave@xdroop.com | http://www.xdroop.com
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on 1-11-2009 9:49 AM Jim Perrin spake the following:
*Whut do U mean? I don't get it lol.*
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:57 PM, <David.Mackintosh@xdroop.com mailto:David.Mackintosh@xdroop.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:14:22AM +0000, Vandaman wrote:
Its not the time to be nannying people over how to behave on mailing list.
</irony>
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
+1 for Jim!
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