When I used Fedora Core 5, and got to the screen for packages to install, I had the option to Customize which packages I wanted to install, but never an option to install EVERYTHING. That annoyed me.
When I use Redhat Enterprise 4, and get to the screen for packages to install, I have the option to Customize which packages I want to install. That leads me to a screen showing a tree of catatories. Towards the bottom, I find an "Everything" option. I almost always choose that.
When I learned about CentOS 4.4, and got to the package install screen, the EVERYTHING option was there. I was thrilled!
From the CentOS beta, I thought I would again get the EVERYTHING option, but to
my shock, the packages screen actually goes back to the FC5 days, thus no easy (that I could find) way to just select all packages.
Am I missing something? If this is true, and the team is still in development stage, can the EVERYTHING option be restored?
Thanks.
Scott
Scott R Ehrlich wrote:
When I used Fedora Core 5, and got to the screen for packages to install, I had the option to Customize which packages I wanted to install, but never an option to install EVERYTHING. That annoyed me.
When I use Redhat Enterprise 4, and get to the screen for packages to install, I have the option to Customize which packages I want to install. That leads me to a screen showing a tree of catatories. Towards the bottom, I find an "Everything" option. I almost always choose that.
When I learned about CentOS 4.4, and got to the package install screen, the EVERYTHING option was there. I was thrilled!
From the CentOS beta, I thought I would again get the EVERYTHING option, but to
my shock, the packages screen actually goes back to the FC5 days, thus no easy (that I could find) way to just select all packages.
Am I missing something? If this is true, and the team is still in development stage, can the EVERYTHING option be restored?
CentOS is cloned from the corresponding RHEL release. Don't expect any more than minimal changes - for example, CentOS doesn't have separate server/desktop/workstation offerings, nor does it have something "just like" RHN.
Scott R Ehrlich wrote:
Am I missing something? If this is true, and the team is still in development stage, can the EVERYTHING option be restored?
the idea and concept of 'everything' becomes a bit hazy when you can add repositories youself at install time. Also, you can easily just do a yum install * post install and get everything that your presently installed repo's have available.
- KB
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 12:04 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Scott R Ehrlich wrote:
Am I missing something? If this is true, and the team is still in development stage, can the EVERYTHING option be restored?
the idea and concept of 'everything' becomes a bit hazy when you can add repositories youself at install time. Also, you can easily just do a yum install * post install and get everything that your presently installed repo's have available.
- KB
BTW ... one should never do an "Everything Install" on a production machine ... maybe for a machine is specifically for testing or building the full distro, etc.
An "Everything Install" adds stuff that you will never use, and while most of the items are not "dangerous" by default, they do not need to be installed if not used. Even with the mostly conservative default settings, having services on your machine that you will never use makes your machine ripe for break ins and a root kit.
Also take into account that there are several packages provided to do the SAME function (ie, exim, sendmail, postfix; you probably only need 1 mail server ... Evolution, Thunderbird ... you probably only need 1 e-mail client, etc.)
There are even some options that conflict.
Everything installs are bad :P ... that is why they are removed upstream.
As KB said though ... if you absolutely have to have an everything install ... then you can either do:
yum install *
OR
Use pirut (system-config-packages) and select all the categories (and all the packages).
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Scott R Ehrlich wrote:
When I used Fedora Core 5, and got to the screen for packages to install, I had the option to Customize which packages I wanted to install, but never an option to install EVERYTHING. That annoyed me.
When I use Redhat Enterprise 4, and get to the screen for packages to install, I have the option to Customize which packages I want to install. That leads me to a screen showing a tree of catatories. Towards the bottom, I find an "Everything" option. I almost always choose that.
When I learned about CentOS 4.4, and got to the package install screen, the EVERYTHING option was there. I was thrilled!
From the CentOS beta, I thought I would again get the EVERYTHING option, but to my shock, the packages screen actually goes back to the FC5 days, thus no easy (that I could find) way to just select all packages.
Am I missing something? If this is true, and the team is still in development stage, can the EVERYTHING option be restored?
Thanks.
Scott
Many, many discussions on this over the years on CentOS and Fedora lists.
Basically CentOS-4 (RHEL-4) was based on Fedora Core-3. This version of Fedora had the "Everything Install" so RHEL-4 had it.
CentOS-5 (RHEL-5) is based on Fedora-6. This version of Fedora lost the "Everything install" so RHEL-5 doesn't have it.
It's not coming back so you'll have to work round it ;-)
Tony
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On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:10 AM, Tony Molloy wrote:
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Scott R Ehrlich wrote:
.... Am I missing something? If this is true, and the team is still in development stage, can the EVERYTHING option be restored?
Thanks.
Scott
Many, many discussions on this over the years on CentOS and Fedora lists.
Basically CentOS-4 (RHEL-4) was based on Fedora Core-3. This version of Fedora had the "Everything Install" so RHEL-4 had it.
CentOS-5 (RHEL-5) is based on Fedora-6. This version of Fedora lost the "Everything install" so RHEL-5 doesn't have it.
It's not coming back so you'll have to work round it ;-)
Tony
A couple of very helpful commands post install that might alleviate some of your pain:
yum grouplist
and subsequently
yum groupinstall
Very helpful for installing Gnome or Development Group after install on machines that you don't install stuff during installation.
(remember to put quotes around two word group names when doing a groupinstall)
Tarun
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