Alle,
We have recently had one of our office servers go south. The hardware was an Intel SDS2 motherboard (EATX), Dual Intel PIII 1.4GHz FC-PGA2-L2 512KB, 3GB (6x512MB) 168 pin DIMM, SDRAM 133MHz/PC-133-ECC with 1x3Ware 7006-2 and 2x3Ware 7506-4LP RAID controllers. The OS was RHEL3. Apparently, according to the beep codes, there has been an FRB failure. I've migrated most of the services (mail,web,proxy,samba,mysql,mailman,home directories) to an interim box running CentOS 5.2. At a minimum, I need to replace the motherboard and CPUS (I'm told they are unrecoverable). All the remaining hardware I plan to re-use, as well as moving from RHEL to CentOS. Does anyone have any recommendations on replacement motherboards with CentOS 5.2 in mind, along with the re-usable hardware requirements?
Best Regards, Camron
on 10-21-2008 11:18 AM Camron W. Fox spake the following:
Alle,
We have recently had one of our office servers go south. The
hardware was an Intel SDS2 motherboard (EATX), Dual Intel PIII 1.4GHz FC-PGA2-L2 512KB, 3GB (6x512MB) 168 pin DIMM, SDRAM 133MHz/PC-133-ECC with 1x3Ware 7006-2 and 2x3Ware 7506-4LP RAID controllers. The OS was RHEL3. Apparently, according to the beep codes, there has been an FRB failure. I've migrated most of the services (mail,web,proxy,samba,mysql,mailman,home directories) to an interim box running CentOS 5.2. At a minimum, I need to replace the motherboard and CPUS (I'm told they are unrecoverable). All the remaining hardware I plan to re-use, as well as moving from RHEL to CentOS. Does anyone have any recommendations on replacement motherboards with CentOS 5.2 in mind, along with the re-usable hardware requirements?
Best Regards, Camron
I have doubts that you will be able to re-use memory, unless you can find something in old stock somewhere. No new boards use PC-133 memory that I know of. But 3 gigs of new memory are *relatively* inexpensive. If the raid cards are PCI, they should still be usable. The case might be usable, if you can find EATX motherboard. IMHO a server is too critical a piece of hardware to re-use parts unless it is a spare or secondary backup point.
By the specs, that server has probably already served for 5 years or more. If you are willing to use refurbished parts you can look here;
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=G7ESZ-WB-R&cat=MBB
Or if your budget can go higher
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SE7501BR2-KIT-R&cat=MBB
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SE7501CW2-K2&cat=MBB
What case form factor are you looking for, I may have a new IBM under warranty that I can sell to you for what you are looking to spend...
All Xeons
john plemons
Scott Silva wrote:
on 10-21-2008 11:18 AM Camron W. Fox spake the following:
Alle,
We have recently had one of our office servers go south. The
hardware was an Intel SDS2 motherboard (EATX), Dual Intel PIII 1.4GHz FC-PGA2-L2 512KB, 3GB (6x512MB) 168 pin DIMM, SDRAM 133MHz/PC-133-ECC with 1x3Ware 7006-2 and 2x3Ware 7506-4LP RAID controllers. The OS was RHEL3. Apparently, according to the beep codes, there has been an FRB failure. I've migrated most of the services (mail,web,proxy,samba,mysql,mailman,home directories) to an interim box running CentOS 5.2. At a minimum, I need to replace the motherboard and CPUS (I'm told they are unrecoverable). All the remaining hardware I plan to re-use, as well as moving from RHEL to CentOS. Does anyone have any recommendations on replacement motherboards with CentOS 5.2 in mind, along with the re-usable hardware requirements?
Best Regards, Camron
I have doubts that you will be able to re-use memory, unless you can find something in old stock somewhere. No new boards use PC-133 memory that I know of. But 3 gigs of new memory are *relatively* inexpensive. If the raid cards are PCI, they should still be usable. The case might be usable, if you can find EATX motherboard. IMHO a server is too critical a piece of hardware to re-use parts unless it is a spare or secondary backup point.
By the specs, that server has probably already served for 5 years or more. If you are willing to use refurbished parts you can look here;
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=G7ESZ-WB-R&cat=MBB
Or if your budget can go higher
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SE7501BR2-KIT-R&cat=MBB
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SE7501CW2-K2&cat=MBB
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John Plemons wrote:
What case form factor are you looking for, I may have a new IBM under warranty that I can sell to you for what you are looking to spend...
All Xeons
he's got 3 raid cards in his current server.
1 x 3Ware 7006-2 - PCI 32bit 66MHz (probably fits in a PCI-X slow?) - 2 x ATA/133 2 x 3Ware 7506-4LP - PCI 64bit 66Mhz (PCI-X?) - 4 x ATA 133
which he says he needs to keep.
so this implies he has up to 10 IDE drives in this system. few if any newer server cases would support this sort of storage configuration. It also implies he needs 3 x PCI-X slots, most newer servers have gone to PCI-Express X4 or X8 slots for these purposes.
John R Pierce wrote:
John Plemons wrote:
What case form factor are you looking for, I may have a new IBM under warranty that I can sell to you for what you are looking to spend...
All Xeons
he's got 3 raid cards in his current server.
1 x 3Ware 7006-2 - PCI 32bit 66MHz (probably fits in a PCI-X slow?) - 2 x ATA/133 2 x 3Ware 7506-4LP - PCI 64bit 66Mhz (PCI-X?) - 4 x ATA 133
There may be issues with the 3ware 7xxx series cards in the latest and greatest kernels, as 7xxx is really really old. I run a couple of 8000 series 3Ware cards and support is alright, though a bunch of things don't work with the driver in the 2.6.x kernel(mostly around monitoring and maintenance)
nate
OK went through my boards, I have a Tyan
S2927G2NR
(3) PCI Slots...
See Tyan http://www.tyan.com/product_board_spec.aspx?pid=175
Also a Tyan S3970G2NR-RS
(4) PCI Slots... See... http://www.tyan.com/product_board_spec.aspx?pid=223
Boards are new and unused, and are Dual AMD Opteron's,
The S2927G2NR is complete with cables etc.... The S3970G2NR-RS is the board only...
The S2927G2NR is $200.00, the S3979G2NR-RS is $150.00
Both have more than what he is looking for...
john
John R Pierce wrote:
John Plemons wrote:
What case form factor are you looking for, I may have a new IBM under warranty that I can sell to you for what you are looking to spend...
All Xeons
he's got 3 raid cards in his current server.
1 x 3Ware 7006-2 - PCI 32bit 66MHz (probably fits in a PCI-X slow?) - 2 x ATA/133 2 x 3Ware 7506-4LP - PCI 64bit 66Mhz (PCI-X?) - 4 x ATA 133
which he says he needs to keep.
so this implies he has up to 10 IDE drives in this system. few if any newer server cases would support this sort of storage configuration. It also implies he needs 3 x PCI-X slots, most newer servers have gone to PCI-Express X4 or X8 slots for these purposes.
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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM, John Plemons john@mavin.com wrote:
OK went through my boards, I have a Tyan
:
Could you please follow list guidelines and bottom post and trim your replies?
Thank you.
mhr
John Plemons wrote:
What case form factor are you looking for, I may have a new IBM under warranty that I can sell to you for what you are looking to spend...
All Xeons
john plemons
John,
Extended ATX.
Best Regards, Camron
Camron W. Fox Hilo Office High Performance Computing Group Fujitsu Management Services of America, Inc. E-mail: cwfox@us.fujitsu.com
Camron W. Fox wrote:
John Plemons wrote:
What case form factor are you looking for, I may have a new IBM under warranty that I can sell to you for what you are looking to spend...
Extended ATX.
Case formfactor is like tower, pedestal, 1U, 2U, ...
Extended ATX is a motherboard form factor.
you're going to need new motherboard, new ram, new CPUs... you really should be looking for new SERVER. your existing 5+ year old 10 ATA drives are likely only a few 100GB or so total, organized as at least 3 seperate raids ? (raids can't span controllers).
2 mirrored SATA drives at ~ $120 or so each for 1TB (1000GB) would way surpass what you likely have now, and be way faster. a modern low end 2U SATA server holds 6 or 8 of these in hotswap bays, for $2000 or so fully configured wiith a pair of drives, and a low end dualcore CPU (which will be 10x faster than your 5 year old P3's), AND it will have a 2-3 year warranty if its from a major vendor.
John R Pierce wrote:
you're going to need new motherboard, new ram, new CPUs... you really should be looking for new SERVER.
Sorry, misread. It's a tower case. And though I appreciate the advice, you are preaching to the choir. This is not my choice, nor is it my decision. I'm just doing the leg work.
your existing 5+ year old 10 ATA drives are likely only a few 100GB or so total, organized as at least 3 seperate raids ? (raids can't span controllers).
Actually, 1 x 500GB (500GB/RAID0), 2 x 1.5TB (RAID5).
Best Regards, Camron
Camron W. Fox Hilo Office High Performance Computing Group Fujitsu Management Services of America, Inc. E-mail: cwfox@us.fujitsu.com