I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the problem other than using the previous kernel?
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170M-PLUS VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.
mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia drivers
On 09/19/17 11:44, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.
mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia drivers
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using the no-board video.
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400 From: Pete Geenhuizen pete@geenhuizen.net
On 09/19/17 11:44, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.
mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia driversAgreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using the no-board video.
I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics 630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates via CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise all has been fine.
On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote:
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400 From: Pete Geenhuizen pete@geenhuizen.net
On 09/19/17 11:44, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.
mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia driversAgreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using the no-board video.
I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics 630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates via CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise all has been fine.
Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't use CR but waited for the official release. I wonder if I'm experiencing the same theme issue with my mate these If that is the what should I look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or what theme are you using?
Pete
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:32:00 -0400 From: Pete Geenhuizen pete@geenhuizen.net
On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote:
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400 From: Pete Geenhuizen pete@geenhuizen.net
On 09/19/17 11:44, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.
mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia driversAgreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using the no-board video.
I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics 630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates via CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise all has been fine.
Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't use CR but waited for the official release. I wonder if I'm experiencing the same theme issue with my mate these If that is the what should I look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or what theme are you using?
Pete
The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like, not the login screen. See:
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-August/165955.html
for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:52 +0000 Richard wrote:
The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like, not the login screen. See:
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-August/165955.html
for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.
Clearlooks-phenix also works fine with the latest C7/Mate and looks more like a "traditional" Gnome 2 desktop.
yum install clearlooks-phenix-gtk2-theme clearlooks-phenix-gtk3-theme
Go to the look and feel preferences setting on your desktop and select Clearlooks-phenix from the list.
And afterward you can
yum remove mate-themes
if you want because it's not needed any more.
Hello Frank,
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:18:15 -0600 Frank Cox theatre@sasktel.net wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:52 +0000 Richard wrote:
The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like, not the login screen. See:
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-August/165955.html
for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.
Clearlooks-phenix also works fine with the latest C7/Mate and looks more like a "traditional" Gnome 2 desktop.
yum install clearlooks-phenix-gtk2-theme clearlooks-phenix-gtk3-theme
Go to the look and feel preferences setting on your desktop and select Clearlooks-phenix from the list.
And afterward you can
yum remove mate-themes
if you want because it's not needed any more.
Interesting.. I could apply it here (C7/mate) and it's true that this theme works on GTK2/GTK3. BUT customizing colors in Appearance Preferences in Mate prefs doesn't apply to GTK3 apps.
Regards,
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:18:15AM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:52 +0000 Richard wrote:
The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like, not the login screen. See:
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-August/165955.html
for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.
Clearlooks-phenix also works fine with the latest C7/Mate and looks more like a "traditional" Gnome 2 desktop.
yum install clearlooks-phenix-gtk2-theme clearlooks-phenix-gtk3-theme
Go to the look and feel preferences setting on your desktop and select Clearlooks-phenix from the list.
And afterward you can
yum remove mate-themes
if you want because it's not needed any more.
Hey Frank, thanks for that pointer. I don't particularly care for the adwaita theme, the phenix theme is much more to my liking.
Fred
On 09/19/2017 12:40 PM, Richard wrote:
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:32:00 -0400 From: Pete Geenhuizen pete@geenhuizen.net
On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote:
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400 From: Pete Geenhuizen pete@geenhuizen.net
On 09/19/17 11:44, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.
mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia driversAgreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using the no-board video.
I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics 630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates via CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise all has been fine.
Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't use CR but waited for the official release. I wonder if I'm experiencing the same theme issue with my mate these If that is the what should I look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or what theme are you using?
Pete
The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like, not the login screen. See:
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-August/165955.html
for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.
My situation is similar, but different:
After wrestling with it for a half-day, I successfully completed the update to 7.4, but as part of that I had to "rpm -e gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.4.5-6.el7_3.x86_64 cheese totem totem-nautilus" so I could "yum update gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.10.4-1.el7.x86_64" and reinstall cheese, totem and totem-nautilus. Then I had no sound at all anywhere on the system, even in audacity and in vlc, both of which *always* work, even when sound doesn't work in firefox and other apps.
Also, I wanted to check my firewall settings prior to rebooting, so clicked on "firewalld" in the "Applications" menu. As soon as I did that, at the very moment I did that, my entire screen flashed and repainted itself. But the screen was different. All the borders on all the windows were gone. Not only that, my touchpad quit working almost everywhere. I can't use the touchpad to focus on a different window, to drag-and-move a window, to click on link in firefox, to click on any buttons in thunderbird, and much more. It still works in the text areas of windows for other things... e.g., I can scroll text up and down inside of windows (using standard double-finger drag), but little else. I plugged in a USB mouse and it works on everything... everything the touchpad used to do.
I mention the firewalld/window-manager/touchpad horkiness because it might cast some light on the "mate" issues mentioned above... point to a deeper source to the problem.
This has been the weirdest update I've ever done. Maybe things will clear up after I reboot. I'm hoping. But thought I'd get that info out in case you don't hear from me in a while (when I eventually reboot into the new kernel).
On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Pete Geenhuizen pete@geenhuizen.net wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
The text console (PC console) black screen with an underline cursor, or the X11 blank console with an X cursor?
If it’s the text console, can you control-alt-F2 to a login prompt?
-- Jonathan Billings billings@negate.org
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the problem other than using the previous kernel?
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170M-PLUS VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
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Pete,
I have had various assortment of problems with 7.4 to the point that I quit upgrading the rest of our PC's with 7.4 until the problems are identified and fixed. The only work around that I could come up with is to use the last 7.3 os which at least made each unit usable.
As you know, most of the time these upgrades have been seamless because the Centos team has done a wonderful job. However, the upgrade to 7.4 has some problems, and I decided to stop the upgrade of our remaining units until 7.4 works as well as 7.3.
Greg
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the problem other than using the previous kernel?
Hm, I didn´t connect a monitor after the upgrade, but I found that hp-health crashes, and a core dump is created with the new kernel :( That´s a DL380 with an x5690.
Is HP going to update their software, or is RH going to fix this?
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170M-PLUS VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
Pete,
I have had various assortment of problems with 7.4 to the point that I quit upgrading the rest of our PC's with 7.4 until the problems are identified and fixed. The only work around that I could come up with is to use the last 7.3 os which at least made each unit usable.
As you know, most of the time these upgrades have been seamless because the Centos team has done a wonderful job. However, the upgrade to 7.4 has some problems, and I decided to stop the upgrade of our remaining units until 7.4 works as well as 7.3.
Greg
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 09/20/17 10:41, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the problem other than using the previous kernel?
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170M-PLUS VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
Pete,
I have had various assortment of problems with 7.4 to the point that I quit upgrading the rest of our PC's with 7.4 until the problems are identified and fixed. The only work around that I could come up with is to use the last 7.3 os which at least made each unit usable.
As you know, most of the time these upgrades have been seamless because the Centos team has done a wonderful job. However, the upgrade to 7.4 has some problems, and I decided to stop the upgrade of our remaining units until 7.4 works as well as 7.3.
Greg
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Greg, I've done 5 upgrades so far without any issues. This is the first one that has a problem and after some experimenting it looks like the kernel is identifying both the analog and digital ports and making the digital display the primary. I use a KVM switch and needless to say it's a royal pain to have to switch back and forth to accommodate this one host. Like you I settled on using th3 previous perfectly working 7.3 kernel, not optimum but it does work.
I've also decided to get a graphics card in lieu of the on-board graphics card in the hope that that will solve the issue with the 7.4 kernel.
Agreed you do get used to these upgrades working seamlessly and it's a bummer when occasionally things don't work out exactly as planned.
Pete
After trying the suggestions offered here and various other suggestions that I found through various searches I finally solved the problem by ditching the on board graphics and installing a graphics card.
On 09/19/17 11:01, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the problem other than using the previous kernel?
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170M-PLUS VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
On 09/19/17 11:01, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the problem other than using the previous kernel?
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170M-PLUS VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
On 09/22/17 15:46, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
After trying the suggestions offered here and various other suggestions that I found through various searches I finally solved the problem by ditching the on board graphics and installing a graphics card.
Pete and others,
I am still having some 7.4 problems. I just finished a fresh install of 7.4 on an ASUS motherboard of which Centos now does not recognize the video monitor. I was required to do a 'Basic Graphic' install instead of a full graphic install with the new 7.4 iso. After a successful install I tried to change the resolution of the screen display but Centos was unable to do so because it did not recognize the monitor. This was not a problem with 7.3.
The Mother board is : Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Product Name: B150M-A/M.2 Version: Rev X.0x
The CPU is : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz
It does not appear that Centos is recognizing the capability of the mother board. Does anyone have ideas as to a solution for this. I am not certain even buying a video card would make a difference.
Pete... what card did you purchase that worked???
Greg
On 09/24/17 12:28, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
On 09/19/17 11:01, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the problem other than using the previous kernel?
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170M-PLUS VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
On 09/22/17 15:46, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
After trying the suggestions offered here and various other suggestions that I found through various searches I finally solved the problem by ditching the on board graphics and installing a graphics card.
Pete and others,
I am still having some 7.4 problems. I just finished a fresh install of 7.4 on an ASUS motherboard of which Centos now does not recognize the video monitor. I was required to do a 'Basic Graphic' install instead of a full graphic install with the new 7.4 iso. After a successful install I tried to change the resolution of the screen display but Centos was unable to do so because it did not recognize the monitor. This was not a problem with 7.3.
The Mother board is : Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Product Name: B150M-A/M.2 Version: Rev X.0x
The CPU is : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz
It does not appear that Centos is recognizing the capability of the mother board. Does anyone have ideas as to a solution for this. I am not certain even buying a video card would make a difference.
Pete... what card did you purchase that worked???
Greg
Greg, Look although you are using a different mobo, you are experiencing the same problems that I ran into. At one point I managed to get a graphical display but at the resolution was extremely low 800x640 I believe, and no way to change it because it didn't look like the kernel recognized the monitor at all.
I just took a stab at a card figuring that no one else seemed to be having issues. I don't do anything graphically intensive so I just looked for what I thought was a good deal , and this card looked like a good deal, with a $10 rebate
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FW5B3ZO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF...
Pete
On 09/24/17 12:28, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
On 09/19/17 11:01, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the problem other than using the previous kernel?
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170M-PLUS VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
On 09/22/17 15:46, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
After trying the suggestions offered here and various other suggestions that I found through various searches I finally solved the problem by ditching the on board graphics and installing a graphics card.
Pete and others,
I am still having some 7.4 problems. I just finished a fresh install of 7.4 on an ASUS motherboard of which Centos now does not recognize the video monitor. I was required to do a 'Basic Graphic' install instead of a full graphic install with the new 7.4 iso. After a successful install I tried to change the resolution of the screen display but Centos was unable to do so because it did not recognize the monitor. This was not a problem with 7.3.
The Mother board is : Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Product Name: B150M-A/M.2 Version: Rev X.0x
The CPU is : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz
It does not appear that Centos is recognizing the capability of the mother board. Does anyone have ideas as to a solution for this. I am not certain even buying a video card would make a difference.
Pete... what card did you purchase that worked???
Greg
Greg, Look although you are using a different mobo, you are experiencing the same problems that I ran into. At one point I managed to get a graphical display but at the resolution was extremely low 800x640 I believe, and no way to change it because it didn't look like the kernel recognized the monitor at all.
I just took a stab at a card figuring that no one else seemed to be having issues. I don't do anything graphically intensive so I just looked for what I thought was a good deal , and this card looked like a good deal, with a $10 rebate
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FW5B3ZO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?i e=UTF8&psc=1
Pete
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Pete,
Thanks much, The machine I am preparing will be for video conferencing so that card should be fine. I ordered one from Newegg.... Thanks again.
Sure hope 7.4 gets fixed; I stopped doing any additional updates.
Greg
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