I did find this out in another message here and they are right. This is a missing piece (one of many!) in the text install.
Even if you select Gnome as your workstation WIndows environment, not all of Gnome gets in. You still have to do:
yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment"
Then edit /etc/inittab file to reflect as shown below
id:5:initdefault: ^ This number should be 5.
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I did find this out in another message here and they are right. This is a missing piece (one of many!) in the text install.
One bit of info that needs clearing up here, did you start a text install by yourself or did the system fallback to text mode ? If the installer drops down to using only Text mode, there will be a reason mentioned in the anaconda log file - look there.
If the installer makes an assumption that it cant run the GUI mode in a reasonable fashion, then it does the safest thing, and sets the machine to boot into text mode post-install.
- KB
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I did find this out in another message here and they are right. This is a missing piece (one of many!) in the text install.
One bit of info that needs clearing up here, did you start a text install by yourself or did the system fallback to text mode ? If the installer drops down to using only Text mode, there will be a reason mentioned in the anaconda log file - look there.
If the installer makes an assumption that it cant run the GUI mode in a reasonable fashion, then it does the safest thing, and sets the machine to boot into text mode post-install.
The installer assumed that it could not run the GUI mode as it cam up with 232Mb memory (24Mb used by video card).
And I know that it would come up in 'init 3 mode', it was just that I was SURE that I selected the GNOME package from the customize package installation dialog, and it was not on my system after the install. I had do grab it separately via yum groupinstall.
Howover, I hosed up somehow later with yumex doing updates, and watched everything being removed! So I had to redo the install.
This time I paid careful attention to the package install dialog, and GNOME environment was installed. All I had to do was change inittab to start at 5 instead of 3.
So I don't know. I am unlikely to be doing another Centos 5 install on a system with less than 256Mb of usable ram...
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
The installer assumed that it could not run the GUI mode as it cam up with 232Mb memory (24Mb used by video card).
This number itself is fairly open to argument. Is 256 megs of usable ram really a hard limit practically ? I think its the best compromise for the situation that we are in - and the anaconda+yum combo definitely needs working to try and optimise the amount of ram it uses at install time - dont think anyone is going to deny that.
- KB
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
The installer assumed that it could not run the GUI mode as it cam up with 232Mb memory (24Mb used by video card).
This number itself is fairly open to argument. Is 256 megs of usable ram really a hard limit practically ? I think its the best compromise for the situation that we are in - and the anaconda+yum combo definitely needs working to try and optimise the amount of ram it uses at install time - dont think anyone is going to deny that.
I have already done one isntall on a Compaq SFF that has 256Mb memory. It went well, I did not feel I had any challenges with the install. As compared to the Compaq SFF with 512Mb.
It would be nice if we could at least have an override to 'try it anyway'. I mean what could go wrong with only 232Mb??? ;)
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 20:48 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
The installer assumed that it could not run the GUI mode as it cam up with 232Mb memory (24Mb used by video card).
This number itself is fairly open to argument. Is 256 megs of usable ram really a hard limit practically ? I think its the best compromise for the situation that we are in - and the anaconda+yum combo definitely needs working to try and optimise the amount of ram it uses at install time - dont think anyone is going to deny that.
I have already done one isntall on a Compaq SFF that has 256Mb memory. It went well, I did not feel I had any challenges with the install. As compared to the Compaq SFF with 512Mb.
It would be nice if we could at least have an override to 'try it anyway'. I mean what could go wrong with only 232Mb??? ;)
The installer can freeze in the middle of installing ... I have even seen it happen on > 256mb of RAM, and I think that 384mb should be the anaconda GUI lower limit, not 256mb for stable installs.
We will stick with what RH puts out, but believe me, you do not want to try to do a GUI install with < 256 mb RAM.
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 20:48 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
The installer assumed that it could not run the GUI mode as it cam up with 232Mb memory (24Mb used by video card).
This number itself is fairly open to argument. Is 256 megs of usable ram really a hard limit practically ? I think its the best compromise for the situation that we are in - and the anaconda+yum combo definitely needs working to try and optimise the amount of ram it uses at install time - dont think anyone is going to deny that.
I have already done one isntall on a Compaq SFF that has 256Mb memory. It went well, I did not feel I had any challenges with the install. As compared to the Compaq SFF with 512Mb.
It would be nice if we could at least have an override to 'try it anyway'. I mean what could go wrong with only 232Mb??? ;)
The installer can freeze in the middle of installing ... I have even seen it happen on > 256mb of RAM, and I think that 384mb should be the anaconda GUI lower limit, not 256mb for stable installs.
Well actually, I did get a freeze, in the text install, the first try. At about 51% installed, it locked. Wouldn't respond to a ping. But I looked at the DHCP server, and it did not show that address being assigned anymore, so I strongly suspect that something was wrong with lease allocations and the notebook 'lost' its IP address so of course it could not ftp anymore.
We will stick with what RH puts out, but believe me, you do not want to try to do a GUI install with < 256 mb RAM.
Well it would be nice to see some more work on the text install! LVM functions and the ability to deselect portions of a group.
But I suspect that there are more important things that need attention.
Keep up the great work!
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Robert Moskowitz