There is a new Web Application Stack that I would like to get the RPMS for into CentOS Plus. I am trying to get the upstream provider to the provide these SRPMS to their public FTP server, but so far they are not there:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/nahant-list/2006-October/msg00053.html
These RPMS would be a major add to CentOSPlus .... as they would provide an enterprise web stack with update support. I am just not sure if or when the source is going to be released.
So, that being said, I am looking for a way that the CentOS team can have access to those SRPMS to build this for the CentOS community.
The way would be to have someone donate a RHWAS license to the CentOS Project. The CentOS Project does not charge for our product and our only revenue stream is donations.
If someone donated a license to the project, we could access the files and build RPMS for all the files that are redistributable. If the SRPMS are later added to the public FTP server, the license would not need to be renewed.
If someone is interested in providing this license, I can be contacted off list concerning this matter.
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 21:10 +0800, CentOS List wrote:
Here is the link that was published (and is dead): ftp://updates.redhat.com/4ES-RHWAS/en/os/SRPMS/
Try the link below?
ftp://updates.redhat.com/enterprise/4ES/en/RHWAS/SRPMS/
Correct ... that is the one update they have released to this software. (substituting 4AS for 4ES works as well).
Now, we just need the initially released packages (the whole rest of the stack) for the stack to apply the updates to :P
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
Do you have any sort of LLC setup where you could write a statement of work around providing these packages?
-jim
On 10/14/06, Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com wrote:
On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 21:10 +0800, CentOS List wrote:
Here is the link that was published (and is dead): ftp://updates.redhat.com/4ES-RHWAS/en/os/SRPMS/
Try the link below?
ftp://updates.redhat.com/enterprise/4ES/en/RHWAS/SRPMS/
Correct ... that is the one update they have released to this software. (substituting 4AS for 4ES works as well).
Now, we just need the initially released packages (the whole rest of the stack) for the stack to apply the updates to :P
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
jim bartus wrote:
Do you have any sort of LLC setup where you could write a statement of work around providing these packages?
I have no idea what this means, care to elaborate a bit ?
If I could get a SOW/quote from some consulting/professional-services company outlining "make the initial packages and provide one year of updates in a sub-72-hour timeframe" I could get a PO for that with ease. If you then turn around and use that money to buy a license to get the packages, thats between you and redhat.
Frankly if there's anyone out there that does this sort of thing for centos please let me know, there's a lot of stuff I could cut POs for.
-jim
On 10/16/06, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
jim bartus wrote:
Do you have any sort of LLC setup where you could write a statement of work around providing these packages?
I have no idea what this means, care to elaborate a bit ?
-- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, jim bartus wrote:
On 10/16/06, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
jim bartus wrote:
Do you have any sort of LLC setup where you could write a statement of work around providing these packages?
I have no idea what this means, care to elaborate a bit ?
If I could get a SOW/quote from some consulting/professional-services company outlining "make the initial packages and provide one year of updates in a sub-72-hour timeframe" I could get a PO for that with ease. If you then turn around and use that money to buy a license to get the packages, thats between you and redhat.
Frankly if there's anyone out there that does this sort of thing for centos please let me know, there's a lot of stuff I could cut POs for.
I'm not sure how we can do something like this with the CentOS organisation, but I think we should. I'm interested to provide CentOS professional services (like I'm currently providing Red Hat services).
Is there a trademark ? What are the conditions to use it ? How would licenses be transformed into donations ? Is there a transparency regarding donations/sponsorship ?
What do we need to allow 3rd parties to provide services around CentOS ?
Maybe another mailinglist ?
Kind regards, -- dag wieers, dag@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power]
Nothin? I can throw a fair amount of money at this. We're looking for someone to commit to a turnaround window on the niche redhat package groups (cluster suite and appserver for now) but deliver them to the centos group/repositories, not to us. We're also looking for someone to contract out the creation and maintenance of rpm's for our internal repo.
-jim
On 10/16/06, Dag Wieers dag@wieers.com wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, jim bartus wrote:
On 10/16/06, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
jim bartus wrote:
Do you have any sort of LLC setup where you could write a statement
of
work around providing these packages?
I have no idea what this means, care to elaborate a bit ?
If I could get a SOW/quote from some consulting/professional-services company outlining "make the initial packages and provide one year of
updates
in a sub-72-hour timeframe" I could get a PO for that with ease. If you then turn around and use that money to buy a license to get the
packages,
thats between you and redhat.
Frankly if there's anyone out there that does this sort of thing for
centos
please let me know, there's a lot of stuff I could cut POs for.
I'm not sure how we can do something like this with the CentOS organisation, but I think we should. I'm interested to provide CentOS professional services (like I'm currently providing Red Hat services).
Is there a trademark ? What are the conditions to use it ? How would licenses be transformed into donations ? Is there a transparency regarding donations/sponsorship ?
What do we need to allow 3rd parties to provide services around CentOS ?
Maybe another mailinglist ?
Kind regards, -- dag wieers, dag@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power] _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
jim bartus wrote:
Nothin? I can throw a fair amount of money at this. We're looking for someone to commit to a turnaround window on the niche redhat package groups (cluster suite and appserver for now) but deliver them to the centos group/repositories, not to us. We're also looking for someone to contract out the creation and maintenance of rpm's for our internal repo.
Jim, I don't know if this discussion has been taken off-list, but why don't you just get this service (more specifically the Application Stack) from Redhat? As I understand it, all CentOS wants is someone with a RedHat subscription to provide to them the SRPMS which have a distributable license. The RedHat subscription for the application stack looks to be $1999 for one year - https://www.redhat.com/apps/commerce/cart.html?store_cart:add_item_cb=SVC023 9
Greg
On 10/14/06, Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com wrote:
There is a new Web Application Stack that I would like to get the RPMS for into CentOS Plus. I am trying to get the upstream provider to the provide these SRPMS to their public FTP server, but so far they are not there:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/nahant-list/2006-October/msg00053.html
These RPMS would be a major add to CentOSPlus .... as they would provide an enterprise web stack with update support. I am just not sure if or when the source is going to be released.
So, that being said, I am looking for a way that the CentOS team can have access to those SRPMS to build this for the CentOS community.
The way would be to have someone donate a RHWAS license to the CentOS Project. The CentOS Project does not charge for our product and our only revenue stream is donations.
If someone donated a license to the project, we could access the files and build RPMS for all the files that are redistributable. If the SRPMS are later added to the public FTP server, the license would not need to be renewed.
If someone is interested in providing this license, I can be contacted off list concerning this matter.
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
Is there an update on this thread? Just tell me we did get all the SRPM, a donation, or something ;-)
Leonardo Vilela Pinheiro wrote:
Is there an update on this thread? Just tell me we did get all the SRPM, a donation, or something ;-)
The java stuff isn't there (because we cannot distribute the JDK) and we're still waiting for the mysql sources. PHP and other stuff already is in centosplus.
Cheers,
Ralph
On 3/11/07, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
Leonardo Vilela Pinheiro wrote:
Is there an update on this thread? Just tell me we did get all the SRPM, a donation, or something ;-)
The java stuff isn't there (because we cannot distribute the JDK) and we're still waiting for the mysql sources. PHP and other stuff already is in centosplus.
Cheers,
Ralph
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Can CentOS get this licence ?
https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/
Leonel wrote:
The java stuff isn't there (because we cannot distribute the JDK) and we're still waiting for the mysql sources. PHP and other stuff already is in centosplus.
Can CentOS get this licence ?
We've had this conversation before, and the answer to your question is - Maybe, but we dont want to.
firstly, we dont want to be distributing the non-open source java. We'd rather wait for them to really open it up all the way.
Secondly, the rhwas stuff isnt built against that anyway!
- KB
On 3/11/07, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
Leonel wrote:
The java stuff isn't there (because we cannot distribute the JDK) and we're still waiting for the mysql sources. PHP and other stuff already is in centosplus.
Can CentOS get this licence ?
We've had this conversation before, and the answer to your question is - Maybe, but we dont want to.
firstly, we dont want to be distributing the non-open source java. We'd rather wait for them to really open it up all the way.
This is what has keept me from working with java but the times are changing...
http://fitzsim.org/blog/?p=14 and http://blogs.sun.com/tmarble/resource/FOSDEM-2007/FOSDEM-2007-RedHat.pdf
leonel
Leonel wrote:
On 3/11/07, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
firstly, we dont want to be distributing the non-open source java. We'd rather wait for them to really open it up all the way.
This is what has keept me from working with java but the times are changing...
http://fitzsim.org/blog/?p=14 and http://blogs.sun.com/tmarble/resource/FOSDEM-2007/FOSDEM-2007-RedHat.pdf
Sure. But it is not known if the stuff in RHWAS will work with that version of Java :)
At the moment it seems to ship with the IBM JDK (which isn't redistributable either last time I checked).
Cheers,
Ralph
On 3/10/07, Ralph Angenendt ra+centos@br-online.de wrote:
The java stuff isn't there (because we cannot distribute the JDK) and we're still waiting for the mysql sources. PHP and other stuff already is in centosplus.
Cheers,
Ralph
Maybe this thread should go to centos-devel list.
Can you give us more details on what packages need JDK, and which JDK? I'd like to understand what is going on, which packages are not ported to Centosplus yet and why.
Do we have to build (compile) JDK?
Can't we use JPackage.org's and give users instructions on how to install and enable their repository?
Ralph Angenendt a écrit :
Leonardo Vilela Pinheiro wrote:
Is there an update on this thread? Just tell me we did get all the SRPM, a donation, or something ;-)
The java stuff isn't there (because we cannot distribute the JDK) and we're still waiting for the mysql sources. PHP and other stuff already is in centosplus.
Cheers,
Ralph
Hello,
You can download it from rhn.redhat.com (with a 30 days eval). But, on a Centos4.4, Mysql5 does not compile :-/
Regards
js.
Hello,
You can download it from rhn.redhat.com (with a 30 days eval). But, on a Centos4.4, Mysql5 does not compile :-/
For RHWAS, a mysql src.rpm isn't shipped and no code is a good reason to not compile. See this bug for details https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230412
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