Can I upgrade my Centos 4.1 system with the 4.2 ISO install disc?
If so, how do I do it? It seams to want to do a full (i.e. format, wipe out old) install over everything. I do not want to lose my various configurations (e.g. kppp, kde desktop settings, etc) that I have already set up under 4.1.
BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
Can I upgrade my Centos 4.1 system with the 4.2 ISO install disc?
If so, how do I do it? It seams to want to do a full (i.e. format, wipe out old) install over everything. I do not want to lose my various configurations (e.g. kppp, kde desktop settings, etc) that I have already set up under 4.1.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
'yum -y update' will update your system to 4.2. No need to upgrade/install.
Bards1888 bards1888@gmail.com wrote: BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
Can I upgrade my Centos 4.1 system with the 4.2 ISO install disc?
If so, how do I do it? It seams to want to do a full (i.e. format, wipe out old) install over everything. I do not want to lose my various configurations (e.g. kppp, kde desktop settings, etc) that I have already set up under 4.1.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
'yum -y update' will update your system to 4.2. No need to >>upgrade/install.
Ever tried that over a 56k dial up? That's why I would rather ( if possible ) use the 4.2 ISO disc.
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 13:44 -0800, BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
Bards1888 bards1888@gmail.com wrote: BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
> Can I upgrade my Centos 4.1 system with the 4.2 ISO install disc? > > If so, how do I do it? It seams to want to do a full (i.e. format, > wipe out old) > install over everything. I do not want to lose my various configurations > (e.g. kppp, kde desktop settings, etc) that I have already set up under > 4.1. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS@centos.org >http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > >> 'yum -y update' will update your system to 4.2. No need to >>upgrade/install. Ever tried that over a 56k dial up? That's why I would rather ( if possible ) use the 4.2 ISO disc.
---- time to get rid of dial-up ;-)
you still wouldn't have all the latest updates if you used 4.2 ISO...
you would actually consume a lot more bandwidth (longer time to download) getting the ISO than just the necessary updates.
Craig
--- BRUCE STANLEY bruce.stanley@prodigy.net wrote:
'yum -y update' will update your system to 4.2. No need to upgrade/install.
Ever tried that over a 56k dial up? That's why I would rather ( if possible ) use the 4.2 ISO disc.
Perhaps you should have stated the obvious necessary info in the beginning. Where did you get the 4.2 discs as they are too large to download? Bought em?
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Jim Smith jim_smith2006@yahoo.com wrote: --- BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
'yum -y update' will update your system to 4.2. No need to upgrade/install.
Ever tried that over a 56k dial up? That's why I would rather ( if possible ) use the 4.2 ISO disc.
Perhaps you should have stated the obvious necessary info in the beginning. Where did you get the 4.2 discs as they are too large to download? Bought em?
No, I am able to down load RPM fiels or ISO files on my PC at work and then burn them to a CD for use at home. We have very high speed connects here at work. The problem is getting the changes to my home system.
Jim Smith jim_smith2006@yahoo.com wrote: --- BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
'yum -y update' will update your system to 4.2. No need to upgrade/install.
Ever tried that over a 56k dial up? That's why I would rather ( if possible ) use the 4.2 ISO disc.
Perhaps you should have stated the obvious necessary info in the beginning. Where did you get the 4.2 discs as they are too large to download? Bought em?
And, I did state the obvious in my first post.
'How (if possible) can you use the ISO disc to do an upgrade ....".
This could be useful no matter what the reasons are for wanting to do an upgrade install instead of a full Format/Install over everything procedure.
BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
And, I did state the obvious in my first post. 'How (if possible) can you use the ISO disc to do an upgrade ....". This could be useful no matter what the reasons are for wanting to do an upgrade insta ll instead of a full Format/Install over everything procedure.
a) That'll still leave you vulnerable - there's been several updated packages since the release of 4.2. I don't know of a solution to that, though - except maybe mirroring the repositories.
b) You got yourself a seriously broken mail client there, it's *really* hard to distinguish stuff you've written from stuff someone else has written. *Really hard*.
Ralph
On 2/26/06, BRUCE STANLEY bruce.stanley@prodigy.net wrote:
Can I upgrade my Centos 4.1 system with the 4.2 ISO install disc?
If so, how do I do it? It seams to want to do a full (i.e. format, wipe out old) install over everything. I do not want to lose my various configurations (e.g. kppp, kde desktop settings, etc) that I have already set up under 4.1.
If you have all 4 of the install cd's, or the install dvd for centos4, then yes. The dvd has yum repository data built into it, so you can mount the dvd and point yum at the repo wherever you mounted the dvd, If you have CDs, then you can create a repository from it. You may want to look at a program like yam from dag to do something like this for you. This will only bring you up to 4.2 release time... it won't get you current, and 4.3 should be out in the near future, so you'll still be behind.....
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BRUCE STANLEY spake the following on 2/26/2006 1:35 PM:
Can I upgrade my Centos 4.1 system with the 4.2 ISO install disc?
If so, how do I do it? It seams to want to do a full (i.e. format, wipe out old) install over everything. I do not want to lose my various configurations (e.g. kppp, kde desktop settings, etc) that I have already set up under 4.1.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
at the boot prompt try; linux upgradeany
Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote: BRUCE STANLEY spake the following on 2/26/2006 1:35 PM:
Can I upgrade my Centos 4.1 system with the 4.2 ISO install disc?
If so, how do I do it? It seams to want to do a full (i.e. format, wipe out old) install over everything. I do not want to lose my various configurations (e.g. kppp, kde desktop settings, etc) that I have already set up under 4.1.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
at the boot prompt try; linux upgradeany
I finally got arournd to trying to update Centos 4.1 to 4.3 via the boot 'linux upgradeany' option.
The first attempt hung the system with only 2 minutes left in the update procedure (according to the displayed remaing time left).
It was trying to upgrade Mozilla to the latest version.
I then hard rebooted the system and tried again thinking that it might start over where it left off (the Mozilla update).
But no, it started the whole process over again. This time however, everything completed and no system hangs occured during the upgrade process. Have no idea why it hung the first time around.
There is plenty of disc space available on the mounted the partitions to do what ever it needed to do (as in 60 GB).
The thing i noticed though, was that everything in my ~Desktop folder that have been set up previous was gone.
Is this normal in an upgrade procedure with Centos?
I finally got arournd to trying to update Centos 4.1 to 4.3 via the boot 'linux upgradeany' option.
The first attempt hung the system with only 2 minutes left in the update procedure (according to the displayed remaing time left).
It was trying to upgrade Mozilla to the latest version.
I then hard rebooted the system and tried again thinking that it might start over where it left off (the Mozilla update).
But no, it started the whole process over again. This time however, everything completed and no system hangs occured during the upgrade process. Have no idea why it hung the first time around.
There is plenty of disc space available on the mounted the partitions to do what ever it needed to do (as in 60 GB).
The thing i noticed though, was that everything in my ~Desktop folder that have been set up previous was gone.
Is this normal in an upgrade procedure with Centos?
Not at all, but then what you did isn't considered 'normal' upgrade procedure. Is there a reason to not just run 'yum update' ?
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Jim Perrin jperrin@gmail.com wrote: >
I finally got arournd to trying to update Centos 4.1 to 4.3 via the boot 'linux upgradeany' option.
The first attempt hung the system with only 2 minutes left in the update procedure (according to the displayed remaing time left).
It was trying to upgrade Mozilla to the latest version.
I then hard rebooted the system and tried again thinking that it might start over where it left off (the Mozilla update).
But no, it started the whole process over again. This time however, everything completed and no system hangs occured during the upgrade process. Have no idea why it hung the first time around.
There is plenty of disc space available on the mounted the partitions to do what ever it needed to do (as in 60 GB).
The thing i noticed though, was that everything in my ~Desktop folder that have been set up previous was gone.
Is this normal in an upgrade procedure with Centos?
Not at all, but then what you did isn't considered 'normal' upgrade procedure. Is there a reason to not just run 'yum update' ?
56k dialup .......... :-(
On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 12:14 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
Jim Perrin jperrin@gmail.com wrote: > > I finally got arournd to trying to update Centos 4.1 to 4.3 via the > boot 'linux upgradeany' option. > > The first attempt hung the system with only 2 minutes left in the > update procedure (according to the displayed remaing time left). > > It was trying to upgrade Mozilla to the latest version. > > I then hard rebooted the system and tried again thinking that it might > start over where it left off (the Mozilla update). > > But no, it started the whole process over again. > This time however, everything completed and no system hangs occured > during the upgrade process. Have no idea why it hung the first time > around. > > There is plenty of disc space available on the mounted the partitions to do > what ever it needed to do (as in 60 GB). > > The thing i noticed though, was that everything in my ~Desktop folder > that have been set up previous was gone. > > Is this normal in an upgrade procedure with Centos?
Not at all, but then what you did isn't considered 'normal' upgrade procedure. Is there a reason to not just run 'yum update' ? 56k dialup .......... :-(
I would highly recommend that if you want to upgrade via an ISO, you get the DVD and do a yum upgrade against the root directory of the mounted DVD ... OR ... copy all the CD's into a local tree and do the upgrade with yum pointing at that.
The "upgradeany" will work, but it makes some assumptions ... one of which is that this is a major upgrade between versions (otherwise you would use yum), so some things will be done that may not be required ... like running some configure scripts, etc.
CentOS is designed to do "yum updates" within a major release (ie CentOS-3.x to any newer CentOS-3.x, CentOS-4.x to any newer CentOS-4.x).
The "upgradeany" method is the only recommended upgrade from one major release to another (ie, CentOS-3.x to CentOS-4.x) ... and even then, a full reinstall is MOST highly encouraged:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/rhel-ig-x8664-multi-en-4/ap-upgr...
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 12:14 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
Jim Perrin wrote: > > I finally got arournd to trying to update Centos 4.1 to 4.3 via the > boot 'linux upgradeany' option. > > The first attempt hung the system with only 2 minutes left in the > update procedure (according to the displayed remaing time left). > > It was trying to upgrade Mozilla to the latest version. > > I then hard rebooted the system and tried again thinking that it might > start over where it left off (the Mozilla update). > > But no, it started the whole process over again. > This time however, everything completed and no system hangs occured > during the upgrade process. Have no idea why it hung the first time > around. > > There is plenty of disc space available on the mounted the partitions to do > what ever it needed to do (as in 60 GB). > > The thing i noticed though, was that everything in my ~Desktop folder > that have been set up previous was gone. > > Is this normal in an upgrade procedure with Centos?
Not at all, but then what you did isn't considered 'normal' upgrade procedure. Is there a reason to not just run 'yum update' ? 56k dialup .......... :-(
I would highly recommend that if you want to upgrade via an ISO, you get the DVD and do a yum upgrade against the root directory of the mounted DVD ... OR ... copy all the CD's into a local tree and do the upgrade with yum pointing at that.
The "upgradeany" will work, but it makes some assumptions ... one of which is that this is a major upgrade between versions (otherwise you would use yum), so some things will be done that may not be required ... like running some configure scripts, etc.
CentOS is designed to do "yum updates" within a major release (ie CentOS-3.x to any newer CentOS-3.x, CentOS-4.x to any newer CentOS-4.x).
The "upgradeany" method is the only recommended upgrade from one major release to another (ie, CentOS-3.x to CentOS-4.x) ... and even then, a full reinstall is MOST highly encouraged:
Hi Jim!
I am well aware that the preferred Centos method of upgrading is to use yum. But this requires the user to have a good high speed Inter Net connection for reliable updates. I have this at work but not at home.
Using a DVD and yum might be a possibility except that the system being used is an older Athlon 1.3 ghz machine with CR-ROM and CD-RW drives. No DVD and only USB 1.1 ports. :-(
Seeing that Linux is suppose to be a good choice for running on older (but in this case not that old) equipment, it would be nice if the upgradeany method was improved for people that are in a similar situation as me. The upgradeany test I did was on a test only removable drive and not on my main system drive, so it was a test, and only a test.
Hi Jim!
I am well aware that the preferred Centos method of upgrading is to use yum. But this requires the user to have a good high speed Inter Net connection for reliable updates. I have this at work but not at home.
Using a DVD and yum might be a possibility except that the system being used is an older Athlon 1.3 ghz machine with CR-ROM and CD-RW drives. No DVD and only USB 1.1 ports. :-(
Still a possibility. You don't actually *NEED* a DVD, just the image.
1. mkdir /mnt/iso 2. mount -o loop /path/to/dvd.iso /mnt/iso 3. point yum to /mnt/iso 4. yum update.
This assumes you're able to get the dvd, but if you can get all 4 isos you can do the exact same thing with the 'createrepo' utility
mkdir /some/local/path/ insert cd1 && mount cd (or use steps above) cp -af /media/cdrom/* /some/local/path/ unmount cd, eject, and repeat for remaining isos. cd /some/local/path/ createrepo .
(to others, yes I know you don't have to cd to the dir to run createrepo, but it's easier this way to explain it & check results)
Final 3rd option is to get dag's yam application and let it do this for you with iso images. http://dag.wieers.com/packages/
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