Got part 1 - xx of back up working, so figured it's a good time to look for stuff to jettison... casually of course. Like paperwork, documentation, ... it's low on the priority list with GB so cheap these days.
Anyway, 42M in /var/spool/up2date. Headers and such. I use only yum after my first month or so of CentOS. Can I dump that and similar non- config stuff?
Or does it have some potential use?
TIA.
Bill
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 14:30 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
Got part 1 - xx of back up working, so figured it's a good time to look for stuff to jettison... casually of course. Like paperwork, documentation, ... it's low on the priority list with GB so cheap these days.
Anyway, 42M in /var/spool/up2date. Headers and such. I use only yum after my first month or so of CentOS. Can I dump that and similar non- config stuff?
Or does it have some potential use?
TIA.
Bill
You can do:
rpm -e up2date up2date-gnome
then see what is left ...
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 06:27 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 14:30 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
Got part 1 - xx of back up working, so figured it's a good time to look for stuff to jettison<snip>
Anyway, 42M in /var/spool/up2date. Headers and such. I use only yum after my first month or so of CentOS. Can I dump that and similar non- config stuff?
<snip>
Bill
You can do:
rpm -e up2date up2date-gnome
then see what is left ...
Got this
rpm -e --verbose up2date up2date-gnome error: Failed dependencies: up2date >= 4.3.38 is needed by (installed) firstboot-1.3.39-4.centos4.noarch up2date-gnome >= 4.1.5 is needed by (installed) rhn-applet-2.1.24-3.centos4.i386
Think I should upgrade and redo?
<snip sig stuff>
Thanks!
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 10:41 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 06:27 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 14:30 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
Got part 1 - xx of back up working, so figured it's a good time to look for stuff to jettison<snip>
Anyway, 42M in /var/spool/up2date. Headers and such. I use only yum after my first month or so of CentOS. Can I dump that and similar non- config stuff?
<snip>
Bill
You can do:
rpm -e up2date up2date-gnome
then see what is left ...
Got this
rpm -e --verbose up2date up2date-gnome error: Failed dependencies: up2date >= 4.3.38 is needed by (installed) firstboot-1.3.39-4.centos4.noarch up2date-gnome >= 4.1.5 is needed by (installed) rhn-applet-2.1.24-3.centos4.i386
Think I should upgrade and redo?
Adding firstboot and rhn-applet should do it or doing "yum remove up2date up2date-gnome" should do it.
On the couple systems I have I generally remove the up2date & rhn cruft. Firstboot is only used the first time the system boots after the inital install and rhn-applet is the update notification icon.
Regards, Paul Berger
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 10:54 -0500, Paul wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 10:41 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 06:27 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 14:30 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
Got part 1 - xx of back up working, so figured it's a good time to look for stuff to jettison<snip>
Anyway, 42M in /var/spool/up2date. Headers and such. I use only yum after my first month or so of CentOS. Can I dump that and similar non- config stuff?
<snip>
Bill
You can do:
rpm -e up2date up2date-gnome
then see what is left ...
Got this
rpm -e --verbose up2date up2date-gnome error: Failed dependencies: up2date >= 4.3.38 is needed by (installed) firstboot-1.3.39-4.centos4.noarch up2date-gnome >= 4.1.5 is needed by (installed) rhn-applet-2.1.24-3.centos4.i386
Think I should upgrade and redo?
Adding firstboot and rhn-applet should do it or doing "yum remove up2date up2date-gnome" should do it.
On the couple systems I have I generally remove the up2date & rhn cruft. Firstboot is only used the first time the system boots after the inital install and rhn-applet is the update notification icon.
Sounds like a plan! I'll take out first boot and the other two. I'll miss the flashing red icon though... but not too much!
Regards, Paul Berger
<snip sig stuff>
Thanks Johnny and Paul!
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 12:32 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 10:54 -0500, Paul wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 10:41 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 06:27 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 14:30 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
<snip>
Anyway, 42M in /var/spool/up2date. Headers and such. I use only yum
after my first month or so of CentOS. Can I dump that and similar non- config stuff?
<snip
Got this
rpm -e --verbose up2date up2date-gnome error: Failed dependencies: up2date >= 4.3.38 is needed by (installed) firstboot-1.3.39-4.centos4.noarch up2date-gnome >= 4.1.5 is needed by (installed) rhn-applet-2.1.24-3.centos4.i386
Think I should upgrade and redo?
<snip>
On the couple systems I have I generally remove the up2date & rhn cruft. Firstboot is only used the first time the system boots after the inital install and rhn-applet is the update notification icon.
Sounds like a plan! I'll take out first boot and the other two. I'll miss the flashing red icon though... but not too much!
I think I'm good to go now. Did
# rpm -e --verbose firstboot # rpm -e --verbose rhn-applet warning: /etc/sysconfig/rhn/rhn-applet saved as /etc/sysconfig/rhn/rhn-applet.rpmsave # rpm -e --verbose up2date up2date-gnome warning: /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date-uuid saved as /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date-uuid.rpmsave warning: /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date saved as /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date.rpmsave warning: /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources saved as /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources.rpmsave #
I'll run a final dependency check, tar/bzip2 the dir and regain 42M.
<snip sig stuff>
Thanks!
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 14:30 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
Got part 1 - xx of back up working, so figured it's a good time to look for stuff to jettison... casually of course. Like paperwork, documentation, ... it's low on the priority list with GB so cheap these days.
Anyway, 42M in /var/spool/up2date. Headers and such. I use only yum after my first month or so of CentOS. Can I dump that and similar non- config stuff?
Or does it have some potential use?
TIA.
Bill
You can do:
rpm -e up2date up2date-gnome
then see what is left ...
Out of curiosity, how come that stuff remains in the CentOS distro at all since we're using yum to manage updates? Or is there some strange subset of folks that install CentOS and then subscribe to RH updates?
Cheers,
Out of curiosity, how come that stuff remains in the CentOS distro at all since we're using yum to manage updates? Or is there some strange subset of folks that install CentOS and then subscribe to RH updates?
What about redhat converts who want what's familiar to them while they adjust? Compatibility is a wonderful thing.
Jim Perrin wrote:
Out of curiosity, how come that stuff remains in the CentOS distro at all since we're using yum to manage updates? Or is there some strange subset of folks that install CentOS and then subscribe to RH updates?
What about redhat converts who want what's familiar to them while they adjust? Compatibility is a wonderful thing.
Compatibility is cool. I guess I'm just wondering out loud if any significant portion of the userbase makes use of that compatibility...
I'm one of those folks that just punts those packages immediately after the install. :-)
Cheers,
Chris Mauritz wrote:
Out of curiosity, how come that stuff remains in the CentOS distro at all since we're using yum to manage updates? Or is there some strange subset of folks that install CentOS and then subscribe to RH updates?
up2date on centos has the capability to use a yum based repo as the backend. and yes, lots of people do continue to use up2date, either on the desktop via the gnome-up2date-applet or via the up2date TUI interface ( think if all those people who already had up2date tasks scripted in from legacy systems...., and sysadmins who are already familiar with up2date's command line interface ).
and its almost as much as 20% of all users ( last time I checked, end June 2006 ) were using up2date's mechanism, on CentOS-4/i386
Karanbir Singh spake the following on 7/29/2006 6:10 PM:
Chris Mauritz wrote:
Out of curiosity, how come that stuff remains in the CentOS distro at all since we're using yum to manage updates? Or is there some strange subset of folks that install CentOS and then subscribe to RH updates?
up2date on centos has the capability to use a yum based repo as the backend. and yes, lots of people do continue to use up2date, either on the desktop via the gnome-up2date-applet or via the up2date TUI interface ( think if all those people who already had up2date tasks scripted in from legacy systems...., and sysadmins who are already familiar with up2date's command line interface ).
and its almost as much as 20% of all users ( last time I checked, end June 2006 ) were using up2date's mechanism, on CentOS-4/i386
And also it makes it easier for the CentOS maintainers to use upstreams docs, without having to edit and revise them. If they had to do the docs also, that takes away from someones time that is better used making CentOS the rockin' distro that it is!!
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