Everyone,
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
Greg Ennis
I used it for many years, but switched to RoundCube as SM seems to not be growing much anymore. Been happy with RC so far.
On 12/18/2012 11:03 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
Greg Ennis
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 23:51:38 PM -0500, Digimer wrote:
I used it for many years, but switched to RoundCube as SM seems to not be growing much anymore. Been happy with RC so far.
I too use Squirrelmail, but found myself thinking more and more frequently in the last months to find an alternative, for the same reasons as Digimer.
To Digimer: does RC include:
- possibility to select all unread messages and/or all the messages of a specific thread with one click?
- what about its calendar module? Do you use it? If yes, how does it work?
To the list: what about Sogo http://sogo.opengroupware.org/en/clients/web/index.html
Is it slower/more complicated to install... any comment is appreciated!
Marco
On 19/12/2012 9:43 πμ, M. Fioretti wrote:
what about Sogo: Is it slower/more complicated to install... any comment is appreciated!
I have not used SoGo yet, but I have read good things about it from many admins. It is probably the only one free/open-source solution which works well with Outlook sync and with Thunderbird/Lightning sync. I plan to try it out soon.
Read this thread too: http://www.mail-archive.com/dovecot@dovecot.org/msg49002.html
I have used Horde (in test mode, not in production) and it is good, but we had various issues, esp. when working with mobile devices. A bit complex in configuring / maintaining.
We have also tested briefly FengOffice, which is slightly different: a groupware application, but it offers a web-based mail client with the ability to define multiple accounts.
Other free groupware projects incorporating mail functionality: kolab, egroupware etc.
We are currently still using SquirrelMail. I hate the GUI (aesthetically), but it works well and there are plugins for about everything one would ask. If only someone could create a nice contemporary GUI (HTML 5) for it!
If someone wants Outlook / Thunderbird sync functionality, I would suggest starting from SoGo (even though I have not tested it yet).
There are other open-source systems too which are not free: Zarafa, Zimbra, Open-Xchange etc.
Nick
Nikolaos Milas wrote:
On 19/12/2012 9:43 πμ, M. Fioretti wrote:
what about Sogo: Is it slower/more complicated to install... any comment is appreciated!
I have not used SoGo yet, but I have read good things about it from many admins.
{snip}
Other free groupware projects incorporating mail functionality: kolab, egroupware etc.
I used oGo (not SoGo) for a while, but the support for Outlook, via a paid for add-on, ended with the 2003 version. Although I don't use Outlook any more, I had some client installations with oGo that did. That lead to a messy transition to proprietary servers as those installations were wedded to Outlook. It looks like SoGo has moved on quite a bit since I last looked and dropped oGo and switched to eGroupware. Been using eGroupware for a few years. Its fine.
Ken
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Nikolaos Milas nmilas@noa.gr wrote:
On 19/12/2012 9:43 πμ, M. Fioretti wrote:
I have used Horde (in test mode, not in production) and it is good, but we had various issues, esp. when working with mobile devices. A bit complex in configuring / maintaining.
Our webmail system at work runs the Horde framework/suite. I primarily use mail and don't fuss with the calendar and other features. But then again I have my email client set up to do everything else and pull my mail via IMAP.
We are currently still using SquirrelMail. I hate the GUI (aesthetically), but it works well and there are plugins for about everything one would ask. If only someone could create a nice contemporary GUI (HTML 5) for it!
I agree -- a face lift for Squirrel Mail would be nice and welcomed by many! Though it would probably be best to add some Ajax calls so the end user doesn't continually see the refresh on post back.
There are other open-source systems too which are not free: Zarafa, Zimbra, Open-Xchange etc.
Comcast's customer mail system runs on Zimbra. I've used it some when helping out family members and I'm not overly impressed by it. I just think the Zimbra webmail GUI is a bit clunky and slow ... but then again that could be related to other factors I didn't investigate.
slightly Off Topic: I'm shocked that Comcast still only offers POP3 access and (so far) does not offer IMAP. I suppose it's not something they care to do or build out all the storage required to store more mail. Setting a POP3 client to leave mail on the server works, but IMAP is better. ;)
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SilverTip257 wrote:
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Nikolaos Milas nmilas@noa.gr wrote:
On 19/12/2012 9:43 πμ, M. Fioretti wrote:
I have used Horde (in test mode, not in production) and it is good, but we had various issues, esp. when working with mobile devices. A bit complex in configuring / maintaining.
Our webmail system at work runs the Horde framework/suite. I primarily use mail and don't fuss with the calendar and other features. But then again I have my email client set up to do everything else and pull my mail via IMAP.
We are currently still using SquirrelMail. I hate the GUI (aesthetically), but it works well and there are plugins for about everything one would ask. If only someone could create a nice contemporary GUI (HTML 5) for it!
My hosting provider added ensignia ? as a new interface to squirrelmail (no clue, haven't bothered to look into it), wish it wouldn't try to load all of sent if you go to look at sent, other than that, what's "unaesthetic" about it? Why do I *need* a New Flashy/non-flash GUI? What reason for a change, other than you being bored easily?
I agree -- a face lift for Squirrel Mail would be nice and welcomed by many!
And greeted with serious annoyance by more.
Though it would probably be best to add some Ajax calls so the end user doesn't continually see the refresh on post back.
Oh, Right. Another fad language load o' crap, to make it more unstable, and less secure.... <nsip>
mark, missing elm, hates that thunderbird *still* formats text even when you told it to display in plain text
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
We are currently still using SquirrelMail. I hate the GUI (aesthetically), but it works well and there are plugins for about everything one would ask. If only someone could create a nice contemporary GUI (HTML 5) for it!
My hosting provider added ensignia ? as a new interface to squirrelmail (no clue, haven't bothered to look into it), wish it wouldn't try to load all of sent if you go to look at sent, other than that, what's "unaesthetic" about it? Why do I *need* a New Flashy/non-flash GUI? What reason for a change, other than you being bored easily?
I think you and I will agree that functionality is more important than prettiness. However customer facing services deserve a bit more attention/polish than a box you or I have sitting in a corner.
I agree -- a face lift for Squirrel Mail would be nice and welcomed by many!
And greeted with serious annoyance by more.
There's always that group that resists change. The idea is not to force changes upon anyone, just make it an _option_ for a nicer front-end (if desired). If SquirrelMail is used by _customers_ then it's probably a good idea to make it look a bit more modern.
Though it would probably be best to add some Ajax calls so the end user doesn't continually see the refresh on post back.
Oh, Right. Another fad language load o' crap, to make it more unstable, and less secure....
<nsip>
Again, do it in such a way that it's optional. Visible postbacks are annoying. What would XYZ big name site be like without incorporating Ajax and Web2.0 techniques? Not a fad, used by many, and "instability and insecurity" can be argued ... no new protocols, etc. The "asynchronous" bit was really the only new piece technique at the time it was coined ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)
mark, missing elm, hates that thunderbird *still* formats text even when you told it to display in plain text
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On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, SilverTip257 silvertip257@gmail.com wrote:
Comcast's customer mail system runs on Zimbra. I've used it some when helping out family members and I'm not overly impressed by it. I just think the Zimbra webmail GUI is a bit clunky and slow ... but then again that could be related to other factors I didn't investigate.
slightly Off Topic: I'm shocked that Comcast still only offers POP3 access and (so far) does not offer IMAP. I suppose it's not something they care to do or build out all the storage required to store more mail. Setting a POP3 client to leave mail on the server works, but IMAP is better. ;)
I just forward mine to a free gmail account... And gmail's web interface is very configurable as long as you don't mind the ads too much. I like having it set to auto-advance though the inbox when you archive or delete as you read. And the web version stays in sync with imap and mobile client views.
On 12/19/2012 3:21 AM, Nikolaos Milas wrote:
We are currently still using SquirrelMail. I hate the GUI (aesthetically), but it works well and there are plugins for about everything one would ask. If only someone could create a nice contemporary GUI (HTML 5) for it! If someone wants Outlook / Thunderbird sync functionality, I would suggest starting from SoGo (even though I have not tested it yet). There are other open-source systems too which are not free: Zarafa, Zimbra, Open-Xchange etc. Nick _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
This is not opensource, but the pricing is not too bad. It answered the GUI issue for us.
John Hinton wrote:
On 12/19/2012 3:21 AM, Nikolaos Milas wrote:
We are currently still using SquirrelMail. I hate the GUI (aesthetically), but it works well and there are plugins for about everything one would ask. If only someone could create a nice contemporary GUI (HTML 5) for it! If someone wants Outlook / Thunderbird sync functionality, I would suggest starting from SoGo (even though I have not tested it yet). There are other open-source systems too which are not free: Zarafa, Zimbra, Open-Xchange etc. Nick _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
This is not opensource, but the pricing is not too bad. It answered the GUI issue for us.
Yup. That's just a gui on top of squirrelmail - that's the Ensignia that I mentioned my hosting provider had stuck over squirrelmail.
mark
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 23:51 -0500, Digimer wrote:
I used it for many years, but switched to RoundCube as SM seems to not be growing much anymore. Been happy with RC so far.
I second the RC recommendation!
I switched to Roundcube early on it's life and haven't looked back. The newest release sure is purrrty!! It's worlds better than Squirrelmail.
Regards,
Ranbir
Am 24.12.2012 00:03, schrieb Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu:
I switched to Roundcube early on it's life and haven't looked back. The newest release sure is purrrty!! It's worlds better than Squirrelmail.
Interesting. Last time I looked, Roundcube had issues with big (>1GB) mailboxes. How does it fare these days in this respect?
Thanks, Tilman
On 24.12.2012 18:02, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
Am 24.12.2012 00:03, schrieb Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu:
I switched to Roundcube early on it's life and haven't looked back. The newest release sure is purrrty!! It's worlds better than Squirrelmail.
Interesting. Last time I looked, Roundcube had issues with big (>1GB) mailboxes. How does it fare these days in this respect?
Thanks, Tilman
My current maildir has ~90k files and ~900 MB, all scattered in several dirs, I haven't noticed any slow-downs at all.
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tilman Schmidt t.schmidt@phoenixsoftware.de wrote:
Am 24.12.2012 00:03, schrieb Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu:
I switched to Roundcube early on it's life and haven't looked back. The newest release sure is purrrty!! It's worlds better than Squirrelmail.
Interesting. Last time I looked, Roundcube had issues with big (>1GB) mailboxes. How does it fare these days in this respect?
Isn't that more related to the performance of the imap server behind it?
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tilman Schmidt t.schmidt@phoenixsoftware.de wrote:
Am 24.12.2012 00:03, schrieb Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu:
I switched to Roundcube early on it's life and haven't looked back. The newest release sure is purrrty!! It's worlds better than Squirrelmail.
Interesting. Last time I looked, Roundcube had issues with big (>1GB) mailboxes. How does it fare these days in this respect?
Isn't that more related to the performance of the imap server behind it?
Last time I did any comparison squirrelmail was a lot faster than the horde/imp package against the same courier-imap server.
Bill
On Mon, 2012-12-24 at 19:02 +0100, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
Am 24.12.2012 00:03, schrieb Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu:
I switched to Roundcube early on it's life and haven't looked back. The newest release sure is purrrty!! It's worlds better than Squirrelmail.
Interesting. Last time I looked, Roundcube had issues with big (>1GB) mailboxes. How does it fare these days in this respect?
This is where my experience is useless to you: my mailboxes aren't that big. The biggest mailbox is only 201 MB.
I use Dovecot for imap/pop, maildir instead of mbox, and it's a really old release to boot (running on a CentOS 5 box). That being said, performance is just fine. The RC interface is snappy. I should also note I'm not using any Roundcube plugins. Well, not yet anyway.
I'm sorry if that didn't help you any.
Regards,
Ranbir
At work we have moved from Horde to Zimbra and the features are great. However I heard the configuration is a little bit cumbersome.
I believe there is a vmware virtual machine preconfigured that you can use to play around.
Regards,
Miguel
________________________________ De: Gregory P. Ennis PoMec@PoMec.Net Para: Centos centos@centos.org Enviado: Miércoles 19 de diciembre de 2012 5:03 Asunto: [CentOS] web mail and Squirrelmail
Everyone,
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it. Greg Ennis
_______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 19.12.2012 04:03, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
If all you want is simple webmail than check out Roundcube, it's OK, has some nice features and it's easy to install. They still need to come up with a more widescreen-friendly theme, it can be a pain to use on 1366x768.
On 12/18/12 23:03, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
My hosting provider has squirrelmail, roundcube, and horde. After I tried each, I decided I preferred squirrelmail.
mark
On 12/18/2012 10:03 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
An engineering company I recently worked for switched from squirrelmail to roundcube. The users liked roundcube much better than squirrelmail.
Am 19.12.2012 05:03, schrieb Gregory P. Ennis:
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
We have been using Squirrelmail for years on two servers without any problem.
Recently we switched one of the servers to Horde because some users said the Squirrelmail user interface looked too old-fashioned. Now we have problems: - much higher server load - considerable increase in support calls - users receiving lots of mail complain that it takes much longer to process it - users cannot change their own sasldb passwords anymore - users cannot manage their own SIEVE filter rules anymore
I'm on the point of reverting to Squirrelmail.
I contemplated Roundcube but read that it's a hog for big mailboxes, which would be a showstopper.
HTH T.
On 12/18/2012 9:03 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
I inherited a server running openwebmail and have since added roundcube (so we now have both available). I actually prefer openwebmail myself, but many users like roundcube better. I looked at horde and zimbra but horde is too ugly and zimbra is to painful to implement (and no real value added from either). Squirrelmail is ok, but I think openwebmail is a bit better (from a user experience point of view) so we passed on that too. -- Steve Lindemann, MSIS __ Network Administrator //\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network \// against HTML/RTF email, +1.970.242.3331 x116 //\ vCards & M$ attachments http://www.marmot.org
On 12/18/2012 11:03 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
I am getting set up for a major mail rebuild moving from F12/Postfix/Mysql/CourierMail/Squirrelmail
to Centos6/Postfix/Mysql/Dovecot/Roundcube following this tutorial:
http://www.campworld.net/thewiki/pmwiki.php/LinuxServersCentOS/Cent6VirtMail...
I am still working my way through understanding postfixadmin and how it builds the sql tables. I am not in too much of a hurry and hope to improve on the tutorial, like replacing his modified postfix.cf with postconf commands.
It is nice that Centos6 has moved to defaulting with Postfix with Mysql support already installed. Doveoct comes as an rpm which is better than building CourierMail. But I am interersted in what others have experienced for the webmail usage. I don't have many users on my handful of domains, so I am not concerned about heavy loads. But a good experience is just that. Good. :)
Everyone,
Are there any opensource web based alternatives to squirrelmail. Do any of you use squirrlmail. How do you like it.
Greg Ennis
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Hey, Thanks to everyone for your responses. You have given me a great launching pad. I think I will start with squirrelmail, and probably test of the others.
Thanks again very much!!!
Greg
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