Hello,
Is it possible to use a mobile hot spot such as the one from Verizon to run a home network? Is there a way to do this without having to buy wireless cards? I was thinking maybe I would have to buy one for my centos machine which acts as my gateway but would like to have other devices wired.
Not sure if a wireless router or access point would allow me to do so.
TIA,
Eddie
tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
Is it possible to use a mobile hot spot such as the one from Verizon to
What do you mean b "a mobile hot spot"? Do you mean the router they give you? If so, that's both wireless and wired.
run a home network? Is there a way to do this without having to buy wireless cards? I was thinking maybe I would have to buy one for my centos machine which acts as my gateway but would like to have other devices wired.
From there to a switch, the other boxen wired to the switch, and run NAT
on your CentOS system. HARDEN IT!!! You'd also have to run dhcpd, and configure that to recognize your other systems. <snip> mark
Question is a bit vague, but you can look at wifiranger.com was a possiblity.
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
Hello,
Is it possible to use a mobile hot spot such as the one from Verizon to run a home network? Is there a way to do this without having to buy wireless cards? I was thinking maybe I would have to buy one for my centos machine which acts as my gateway but would like to have other devices wired.
Not sure if a wireless router or access point would allow me to do so.
TIA,
Eddie
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<tdukes@...> writes:
Hello,
Is it possible to use a mobile hot spot such as the one from Verizon to run a home network? Is there a way to do this without having to buy wireless cards? I was thinking maybe I would have to buy one for my centos machine which acts as my gateway but would like to have other devices wired.
Not sure if a wireless router or access point would allow me to do so.
TIA,
Eddie
My experience with mobile hotspots is that they work just like having a DSL or cable connected wireless router. You don't need a separate router but you will want to make sure everything that connects to it is firewalled. The one I tried out earlier this year was even running Linux "under the hood."
The big difference between a mobile hotspot and some other form of connectivity is cost since you need a cell phone type data plan for the mobile hotspot. These aren't too bad for surfing the 'net but you can blow your data cap by downloading one ISO or chew through a lot of it with just a point release update. I can't imagine what a suitable data plan would cost for multiple systems.
Cheers, Dave
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:39 PM, David G. Miller dave@davenjudy.org wrote:
<tdukes@...> writes:
Is it possible to use a mobile hot spot such as the one from Verizon to run a home network? Is there a way to do this without having to buy wireless cards? I was thinking maybe I would have to buy one for my centos machine which acts as my gateway but would like to have other devices wired.
Not sure if a wireless router or access point would allow me to do so.
My experience with mobile hotspots is that they work just like having a DSL or cable connected wireless router. You don't need a separate router but you will want to make sure everything that connects to it is firewalled. The one I tried out earlier this year was even running Linux "under the hood."
I think the question here is how to connect from the wired devices. A wifi interface in a linux box configured to act as a router for the rest of the network and NAT to the wifi interface should work (also needs to be the nameserver and probably dhcp server if one is used). But it might be simpler if you can get an access point to run in bridged mode with the wireless router which would take care of the other details - not sure if that is possible.
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 17:39:21 +0000 (UTC) David G. Miller wrote:
My experience with mobile hotspots is that they work just like having a DSL or cable connected wireless router. You don't need a separate router but you will want to make sure everything that connects to it is firewalled. The one I tried out earlier this year was even running Linux "under the hood."
I have had good luck with cellular modems and Cradlepoint routers.
---- "David G. Miller" dave@davenjudy.org wrote:
<tdukes@...> writes:
Hello,
Is it possible to use a mobile hot spot such as the one from Verizon to run a home network? Is there a way to do this without having to buy wireless cards? I was thinking maybe I would have to buy one for my centos machine which acts as my gateway but would like to have other devices wired.
Not sure if a wireless router or access point would allow me to do so.
TIA,
Eddie
My experience with mobile hotspots is that they work just like having a DSL or cable connected wireless router. You don't need a separate router but you will want to make sure everything that connects to it is firewalled. The one I tried out earlier this year was even running Linux "under the hood."
The big difference between a mobile hotspot and some other form of connectivity is cost since you need a cell phone type data plan for the mobile hotspot. These aren't too bad for surfing the 'net but you can blow your data cap by downloading one ISO or chew through a lot of it with just a point release update. I can't imagine what a suitable data plan would cost for multiple systems.
After checking with Verizon on their mobile Hotspot plans, it isn't feasible. However, I can do it through my unlimited data plan for my iPhone. 3G is faster than the Road Runner service I have.
If I use the IPhone, I can use a USB connection. My centos machine acts as my firewall/gateway on my wired network so the question now is, if I use the USB connection to my centos machine will that bypass the firewall?
Thanks
tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
---- "David G. Miller" dave@davenjudy.org wrote:
<tdukes@...> writes:
Is it possible to use a mobile hot spot such as the one from Verizon to run a home network? Is there a way to do this without having to buy wireless cards? I was thinking maybe I
<snip>
After checking with Verizon on their mobile Hotspot plans, it isn't feasible. However, I can do it through my unlimited data plan for my iPhone. 3G is faster than the Road Runner service I have.
If I use the IPhone, I can use a USB connection. My centos machine acts as my firewall/gateway on my wired network so the question now is, if I use the USB connection to my centos machine will that bypass the firewall?
Why go through all these contortions? Why not get a wired (or FIOS) drop in your house, and get *much* larger bandwidth (and more secure)? Most of the cable modems or DSL modems they give you these days have wireless, as well.
mark, about to do some CAT-5 wiring in my house
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tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
---- "David G. Miller" dave@davenjudy.org wrote:
<tdukes@...> writes:
Is it possible to use a mobile hot spot such as the one from Verizon to run a home network? Is there a way to do this without having to buy wireless cards? I was thinking maybe I
<snip> > After checking with Verizon on their mobile Hotspot plans, it isn't > feasible. However, I can do it through my unlimited data plan for my > iPhone. 3G is faster than the Road Runner service I have. > > If I use the IPhone, I can use a USB connection. My centos machine acts as > my firewall/gateway on my wired network so the question now is, if I use > the USB connection to my centos machine will that bypass the firewall?
Why go through all these contortions? Why not get a wired (or FIOS) drop in your house, and get *much* larger bandwidth (and more secure)? Most of the cable modems or DSL modems they give you these days have wireless, as well.
I'm done with Time Warner Cable/Road Runner. Looking for alternatives.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM, tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
After checking with Verizon on their mobile Hotspot plans, it isn't feasible. However, I can do it through my unlimited data plan for my iPhone. 3G is faster than the Road Runner service I have.
That's kind of pathetic for a cable service. Is that the best they can do or is this a 'Lite' service?
---- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM, tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
After checking with Verizon on their mobile Hotspot plans, it isn't feasible. However, I can do it through my unlimited data plan for my iPhone. 3G is faster than the Road Runner service I have.
That's kind of pathetic for a cable service. Is that the best they can do or is this a 'Lite' service?
It is what the call the speed of light package. Not the slowest and not the fastest. Its just their crappy service, customer service, etc.
I watched a football (not soccer) on my iPhone and the same game over cable on my PC on ESPN3. The 3G was perfect (except) for the same screen. :-) Watching on the PC was like looking through your car windshield in pouring down rain without windshield wipers.
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On 09/07/11 12:15 PM, tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
I watched a football (not soccer) on my iPhone and the same game over cable on my PC on ESPN3. The 3G was perfect (except) for the same screen. :-) Watching on the PC was like looking through your car windshield in pouring down rain without windshield wipers.
that could be a lot of things, such as video streams optimized for the small screen of the iphone... also, the small screen hides compression artifacts that would be obvious and annoying on a larger screen...
---- John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 09/07/11 12:15 PM, tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
I watched a football (not soccer) on my iPhone and the same game over cable on my PC on ESPN3. The 3G was perfect (except) for the same screen. :-) Watching on the PC was like looking through your car windshield in pouring down rain without windshield wipers.
that could be a lot of things, such as video streams optimized for the small screen of the iphone... also, the small screen hides compression artifacts that would be obvious and annoying on a larger screen...
Could be. I think my roadrunner is 3MB down and .5MB up.
I jailbroke my iphone last night a installed a wifi hotspot package. The laptop I'm on, tethered to it shows 15MB down and 5MB up.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:15 PM, tdukes@sc.rr.com wrote:
It is what the call the speed of light package. Not the slowest and not the fastest. Its just their crappy service, customer service, etc.
I watched a football (not soccer) on my iPhone and the same game over cable on my PC on ESPN3. The 3G was perfect (except) for the same screen. :-) Watching on the PC was like looking through your car windshield in pouring down rain without windshield wipers.
Not sure you are comparing Apples to apples here. Can you make the display window the same size on the PC as the phone? Or run the phone on wifi? It is unfortunate that cable companies tend to have regional monopolies, but they are still likely the best price for bandwidth you'll find so you are probably better off complaining until they fix it. You might check out the sprint/clear wimax service if it is available in your area. I can get it on my phone but it rarely works inside a building in my area. I've heard of people using it as a cablemodem replacement but it is very sensitive to the location of the receiver.
On 09/07/11 12:05 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
After checking with Verizon on their mobile Hotspot plans, it isn't feasible. However, I can do it through my unlimited data plan for my iPhone. 3G is faster than the Road Runner service I have.
That's kind of pathetic for a cable service. Is that the best they can do or is this a 'Lite' service?
also, even if the cellular stuff is faster at large single transfers, its latency and reliability tend to be way way worse than any landline solution.
<tdukes@...> writes:
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After checking with Verizon on their mobile Hotspot plans, it isn't feasible.
However, I can do it through
my unlimited data plan for my iPhone. 3G is faster than the Road Runner
service I have.
If I use the IPhone, I can use a USB connection. My centos machine acts as my
firewall/gateway on my wired
network so the question now is, if I use the USB connection to my centos
machine will that bypass the firewall?
Thanks
That mainly depends on how the USB data connection to your iPhone shows up on the Linux box. If the iPhone shows up as a network connection (i.e., it's a peer and you have networking over USB) then you just need to make sure that data on that connection still goes through IPtables. If the iPhone just shows up as a mass storage device, you'll first have to figure out how to get it to show up as a peer.
I'm interested in whether you can make this work since I will need a similar capability (smart phone acting as Internet gateway) in the near future.
Cheers, Dave
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of David G. Miller Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:47 AM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Networking question
<tdukes@...> writes:
<Lots deleted>
After checking with Verizon on their mobile Hotspot plans,
it isn't feasible. However, I can do it through
my unlimited data plan for my iPhone. 3G is faster than the Road Runner
service I have.
If I use the IPhone, I can use a USB connection. My centos machine acts as my
firewall/gateway on my wired
network so the question now is, if I use the USB connection to my centos
machine will that bypass the firewall?
Thanks
That mainly depends on how the USB data connection to your iPhone shows up on the Linux box. If the iPhone shows up as a network connection (i.e., it's a peer and you have networking over USB) then you just need to make sure that data on that connection still goes through IPtables. If the iPhone just shows up as a mass storage device, you'll first have to figure out how to get it to show up as a peer.
I'm interested in whether you can make this work since I will need a similar capability (smart phone acting as Internet gateway) in the near future.
Hi Dave,
If this works out I will post it. If I can find a router or switch with a USB connection, I think it would work. I would like to keep the local network wired. Probably can make it work if eth0 is wireless.
I was wrong in the previous post about the u/d rate. What I was seeing was the transfer from my iphone to my laptop. Sorry.
Eddie
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