hi...
is there a way to talk to users on other machines within my network?
the 'talk' function apparently only works with users on the same box..
-bruce
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 10:21 -0700, bruce wrote:
hi...
is there a way to talk to users on other machines within my network?
the 'talk' function apparently only works with users on the same box..
I don't think that is correct. Two reasons: man page shows synopsis and text that tends to indicate it will talk across machines; second I got a nice connection refused message when I tried it here. I expected that message.
Do you have more details about your (apparent?) failure to succeed? Commands tried, config files altered, etc.?
-bruce
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hi william...
it might be an issue with talk... when i do a 'talk test' from one of my term windows when i'm logged in as 'root' a get a connection err msg..
-bruce
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of William L. Maltby Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:05 PM To: CentOS General List Subject: Re: [CentOS] talking to users on on other boxes within my network...
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 10:21 -0700, bruce wrote:
hi...
is there a way to talk to users on other machines within my network?
the 'talk' function apparently only works with users on the same box..
I don't think that is correct. Two reasons: man page shows synopsis and text that tends to indicate it will talk across machines; second I got a nice connection refused message when I tried it here. I expected that message.
Do you have more details about your (apparent?) failure to succeed? Commands tried, config files altered, etc.?
-bruce
<snip sig stuff>
-- Bill
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:24 -0700, bruce wrote:
hi william...
it might be an issue with talk... when i do a 'talk test' from one of my term windows when i'm logged in as 'root' a get a connection err msg..
Do a 'man talkd' and 'man talk' (I know you did that one already). Then if you have tcpwrappers going (you *should* have... I think current terminology is port* something or other), check out your /etc/host.allow and hosts.deny (and read their man pages - saves some counter-intuitive angst). Make sure talk is enabled in /etc/services. Remember that talk is essentially an enhanced "write" command from the old days and terminal permissions will also affect success.
If you are in a X environment, check out Applications->Internet and Internet Messenger and IRC there. I believe gaim has a bunch of stuff. Which actually provide the features, I can't say. I suspect there's some others. I check out my local yum info file and post again if I see some other good candidates.
-bruce
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For consideration for other readers, try to avoid top-post. As you can see, I answer and snip (habitually too) so late-comers will not see the start. If you mix in, I tend to get it right.
HTH
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 15:28 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:24 -0700, bruce wrote:
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If you are in a X environment, check out Applications->Internet and Internet Messenger and IRC there. I believe gaim has a bunch of stuff. Which actually provide the features, I can't say. I suspect there's some others. I check out my local yum info file and post again if I see some other good candidates.
Since you need a daemon regardless (talkd), I figured one devil (sic) is a good as another! So I included the below. Found these.
ytalk (rpmforge): communicate with any arbitrary number of users at once xchat: easy to use graphical IRC chat client for the X Window EPIC (rpmforge): (Enhanced Programmable ircII Client) is an advanced ircII chat client Gossip (kbs-CentOS-Extras): aims at making Jabber easy to use and tries to give GNOME users a real user friendly way of chatting... Konversation (kbs-CentOS-Extras): is a user friendly IRC client for KDE
-bruce
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<snip top-post suggestiona and sig stuff>
HTH
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 18:04 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 15:28 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
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Since you need a daemon regardless (talkd), I figured one devil (sic) is a good as another! So I included the below. Found these.
<snip list of candidates & sig stuff>
BTW, I meant to mention that since any of these choices use a daemon (unless you go with basic write?), be sure to consider your security needs, if any. Consider using xinetd if the volume is low, be sure to restrict port access from the Internet, configure host.{allow,deny} properly so only desired local traffic is permitted for each machine, etc. Check config files too, for a 1st/last line of defense. Some might have some security configuration capability included in them.
HTH
talkd isn't likely installed by default.
Do a: yum install talk-server chkconfig talk on
and that should get it going. I used to use talk a lot "back in the day"
-Shawn
William L. Maltby wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:24 -0700, bruce wrote:
hi william...
it might be an issue with talk... when i do a 'talk test' from one of my term windows when i'm logged in as 'root' a get a connection err msg..
Do a 'man talkd' and 'man talk' (I know you did that one already). Then if you have tcpwrappers going (you *should* have... I think current terminology is port* something or other), check out your /etc/host.allow and hosts.deny (and read their man pages - saves some counter-intuitive angst). Make sure talk is enabled in /etc/services. Remember that talk is essentially an enhanced "write" command from the old days and terminal permissions will also affect success.
If you are in a X environment, check out Applications->Internet and Internet Messenger and IRC there. I believe gaim has a bunch of stuff. Which actually provide the features, I can't say. I suspect there's some others. I check out my local yum info file and post again if I see some other good candidates.
-bruce
<snip>
For consideration for other readers, try to avoid top-post. As you can see, I answer and snip (habitually too) so late-comers will not see the start. If you mix in, I tend to get it right.
HTH
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On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 10:47 -0400, Shawn K. O'Shea wrote:
talkd isn't likely installed by default.
Do a: yum install talk-server chkconfig talk on
and that should get it going. I used to use talk a lot "back in the day"
-Shawn
Since we aren't sure of his environment or anything, we should also mention that after install in a normal GUI desktop, he can enter "Service Configuration" and activate it there.
Also, as delivered, there is no "talkd", but the xinet versions, in.*. If not low-volume, he may want to convert back to a standard daemon (presumes normal security precautions elsewhere).
# rpm -q talk-server --filesbypkg talk-server /etc/xinetd.d/ntalk talk-server /etc/xinetd.d/talk talk-server /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd talk-server /usr/sbin/in.talkd talk-server /usr/share/man/man8/in.ntalkd.8.gz talk-server /usr/share/man/man8/in.talkd.8.gz talk-server /usr/share/man/man8/ntalkd.8.gz talk-server /usr/share/man/man8/talkd.8.gz
And apparently from kde and other stuff install:
# locate talkd /etc/selinux/targeted/src/policy/file_contexts/program/ktalkd.fc /usr/include/protocols/talkd.h /usr/bin/ktalkdlg /usr/bin/ktalkd /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd /usr/sbin/in.talkd
They don't want to make it easy for us old-timey CLI folks, eh?
If we don't quit, there'll be nothing left to be discovered.
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