My wife bought a new Thinkpad, on which we had the shop install CentOS 7 (I *think* it's 7.3.) Alas!, I didn't think to specify NOT Gnome, in thunder. So of course I got it.
I've tried several times to force myself to accommodate Gnome3, always with no joy. How do I get Mate or Xfce instead?
Related problem: when I become root and tell it "yum update," it figures out a list of umpteen hundred rpms to update, but then runs through attempts at mirrors and keeps failing till it runs out. It failed to connect to my wireless router (or even to find it, afaict). So I plugged it into the router with an ethernet cable. No joy.
On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 15:43 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
My wife bought a new Thinkpad, on which we had the shop install CentOS 7 (I *think* it's 7.3.) Alas!, I didn't think to specify NOT Gnome, in thunder. So of course I got it.
I've tried several times to force myself to accommodate Gnome3, always with no joy. How do I get Mate or Xfce instead?
I hope this doesn't sound rude, it's not meant to, but have you googled for it? The first hit on 'install xfce centos7' or 'install mate centos7' gives the answers in much more detail than I can go into here. But basically, install epel and then
yum groupinstall "Xfce"
or
yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop"
Related problem: when I become root and tell it "yum update," it figures out a list of umpteen hundred rpms to update, but then runs through attempts at mirrors and keeps failing till it runs out. It failed to connect to my wireless router (or even to find it, afaict). So I plugged it into the router with an ethernet cable. No joy.
Do you have any net connection at all? Can you see websites? If you can't see the outside world, updates aren't going to happen.
P.
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:13:30 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 15:43 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
My wife bought a new Thinkpad, on which we had the shop install CentOS 7 (I *think* it's 7.3.) Alas!, I didn't think to specify NOT Gnome, in thunder. So of course I got it.
I've tried several times to force myself to accommodate Gnome3, always with no joy. How do I get Mate or Xfce instead?
I hope this doesn't sound rude, it's not meant to, but have you googled for it? The first hit on 'install xfce centos7' or 'install mate centos7' gives the answers in much more detail than I can go into here. But basically, install epel and then
yum groupinstall "Xfce"
or
yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop"
No, actually, I hadn't realized Google could do things that fancy; thanks for the pointer!
Related problem: when I become root and tell it "yum update," it figures out a list of umpteen hundred rpms to update, but then runs through attempts at mirrors and keeps failing till it runs out. It failed to connect to my wireless router (or even to find it, afaict). So I plugged it into the router with an ethernet cable. No joy.
Do you have any net connection at all? Can you see websites? If you can't see the outside world, updates aren't going to happen.
No, and I can neither ssh nor scp over my LAN. We had a lightning strike a month or so back that must've been right next to the house: blindingly bright, and with huge thunder simultaneously. It fried both the cable modem and the router; and I haven't yet managed to install DD-WRT (or whatever may have succeeded it) onto the router.
Beartooth wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:13:30 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 15:43 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
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Do you have any net connection at all? Can you see websites? If you can't see the outside world, updates aren't going to happen.
No, and I can neither ssh nor scp over my LAN. We had a lightning strike a month or so back that must've been right next to the house: blindingly bright, and with huge thunder simultaneously. It fried both the cable modem and the router; and I haven't yet managed to install DD-WRT (or whatever may have succeeded it) onto the router.
DON'T!!! Try tomato, or some other firmware.
I put DD-WRT on my router a few years ago... and I'm seriously afraid to update it. NEVER in my entire life have I seen a "project" that a) didn't have releases, and b) people on the general mailing list talk about their "favorite" builders and "favorite rbuilds".
Oh, and the documentation? I haven't been there in a while, but for years, it said "don't use the database (that the main page gives you), use the wiki.
The "project" is amateur, in the worst possible sense of the word. I will never put it on anything else, ever again.
In case you're wondering, I have a "Win" laser printer. When I got my ASUS router, it said it could serve as a USB printserver. I even called ASUS, and they said, and I quote, "Oh, not printers like those". So I found the most recent build, by one builder, that said it could handle it. Install this version, then upgrade it, then upgrade it again.
It does work, for a while. But after a day or a week when I don't print anything, it forgets it exists, and what I have to do ranges from a usb_modeset reset to power cycling the router. *Great* firmware (NOT).
mark
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 05:18:23PM +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:13:30 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 15:43 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
My wife bought a new Thinkpad, on which we had the shop install CentOS 7 (I *think* it's 7.3.) Alas!, I didn't think to specify NOT Gnome, in thunder. So of course I got it.
I've tried several times to force myself to accommodate Gnome3, always with no joy. How do I get Mate or Xfce instead?
I hope this doesn't sound rude, it's not meant to, but have you googled for it? The first hit on 'install xfce centos7' or 'install mate centos7' gives the answers in much more detail than I can go into here. But basically, install epel and then
yum groupinstall "Xfce"
or
yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop"
No, actually, I hadn't realized Google could do things that fancy; thanks for the pointer!
Related problem: when I become root and tell it "yum update," it figures out a list of umpteen hundred rpms to update, but then runs through attempts at mirrors and keeps failing till it runs out. It failed to connect to my wireless router (or even to find it, afaict). So I plugged it into the router with an ethernet cable. No joy.
Do you have any net connection at all? Can you see websites? If you can't see the outside world, updates aren't going to happen.
No, and I can neither ssh nor scp over my LAN. We had a lightning strike a month or so back that must've been right next to the house: blindingly bright, and with huge thunder simultaneously. It fried both the cable modem and the router; and I haven't yet managed to install DD-WRT (or whatever may have succeeded it) onto the router.
at one point in 7.x there was a "feature" in the installer that if you did not enable networking during the install, you ended up with an installed system where networking was also not enabled. that means you need to find the appropriate incantation to turn on networking. Most likely, right-click on the NetworkManager icon in the top panel, click "edit connections", click Ethernet in the window, then click the "Add" button, and add to your heart's content.
you may need, subsequently, to right-click on the NM icon again then "Enable Networking".
when "Add"ing, if you want the network you added to start at boot, on the "General" tab of the add dialog, click "All users may connect to this network". Otherwise it comes up when you log in, and down when you log out. not what most of us want.
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 03:43:02PM +0000, Beartooth wrote:
Related problem: when I become root and tell it "yum update," it figures out a list of umpteen hundred rpms to update, but then runs through attempts at mirrors and keeps failing till it runs out. It failed to connect to my wireless router (or even to find it, afaict). So I plugged it into the router with an ethernet cable. No joy.
This sounds like you have cached metadata that points to older files that are no longer on the mirrors.
Try running 'yum clean metadata' and try updating again.
runs through attempts at mirrors and keeps failing till it runs out. It failed to connect to my wireless router (or even to find it, afaict). So I plugged it into the router with an ethernet cable. No joy.
The ethernet adapter seems to be turned off by default. To turn it on, click the 'down arrow' in the upper-right corner, then click the Settings icon (a crossed wrench and nutdriver, near as I can tell) and choose Network. Then, in the Network dialog, click Wired on the left and toggle the 'switch' in the right-hand side to ON. If you make a profile for it there, you can have it connect the wired adapter automatically (which turns it on automatically, too).
In any event, you should also see its status (e.g. connected or disconnected) when you click the down arrow in the upper-right corner.
Getting the wireless working *might* go smoother once all the initial updates are installed.
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