Hi,
As you all know, CentOS 7 is shipping PHP 5.4, which is OK in some situations. Unfortunately, some applications like OwnCloud require a more recent version of PHP.
Up until recently, I've been using PHP 5.6 packages from the Webtatic repository. Despite the bad press this third party repo seems to have, it has been working perfectly for me for a few years. Here's the PHP 5.6 packages I have on an OwnCloud server:
$ rpm -qa | grep php php56w-devel-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pdo-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-gd-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mysql-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-process-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pear-1.10.4-1.w7.noarch php56w-common-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-xml-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-redis-3.1.6-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-cli-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mcrypt-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mbstring-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-igbinary-2.0.5-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-apcu-4.0.11-2.w7.x86_64 php56w-intl-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-soap-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64
Now I'll have to upgrade these to some version of PHP 7. So I googled "php 7 centos 7" and found quite a wealth of - sometimes contradictory - information.
1. The "recommended" way of doing things seems to be the Red Hat Software Collections. Correct me if I'm wrong. I wonder if this way of doing things will enable me to get all the PHP modules listed above.
2. The use of Webtatic seems to be frowned upon. I still have to figure out why, since this repository has always worked perfectly for me.
3. Then there's another repository managed by Remi Collet. Any thoughts on that?
And then there's also the question : which version of PHP 7 should I choose ? On my servers, I'm mainly hosting WordPress, Dolibarr and OwnCloud.
Any suggestions ? I'm no lamer for doing a bit of RTFM, so a pointer to documentation will do. The problem is not so much that there is no information on the subject. It's rather : there's too much. As we say in France : I'm confused about which saint to send my prayers to. :o)
Cheers,
Niki
On 3/15/19 12:51 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Hi,
As you all know, CentOS 7 is shipping PHP 5.4, which is OK in some situations. Unfortunately, some applications like OwnCloud require a more recent version of PHP.
Up until recently, I've been using PHP 5.6 packages from the Webtatic repository. Despite the bad press this third party repo seems to have, it has been working perfectly for me for a few years. Here's the PHP 5.6 packages I have on an OwnCloud server:
$ rpm -qa | grep php php56w-devel-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pdo-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-gd-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mysql-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-process-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pear-1.10.4-1.w7.noarch php56w-common-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-xml-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-redis-3.1.6-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-cli-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mcrypt-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mbstring-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-igbinary-2.0.5-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-apcu-4.0.11-2.w7.x86_64 php56w-intl-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-soap-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64
Now I'll have to upgrade these to some version of PHP 7. So I googled "php 7 centos 7" and found quite a wealth of - sometimes contradictory - information.
- The "recommended" way of doing things seems to be the Red Hat
Software Collections. Correct me if I'm wrong. I wonder if this way of doing things will enable me to get all the PHP modules listed above.
- The use of Webtatic seems to be frowned upon. I still have to figure
out why, since this repository has always worked perfectly for me.
- Then there's another repository managed by Remi Collet. Any thoughts
on that?
And then there's also the question : which version of PHP 7 should I choose ? On my servers, I'm mainly hosting WordPress, Dolibarr and OwnCloud.
Any suggestions ? I'm no lamer for doing a bit of RTFM, so a pointer to documentation will do. The problem is not so much that there is no information on the subject. It's rather : there's too much. As we say in France : I'm confused about which saint to send my prayers to. :o)
Cheers,
Niki
I package PHP 7.3.x linked against LibreSSL rather than OpenSSL.
I also package MariaDB 10.2.x and updated Apache.
Right now there is a yum install issue - you have to manually remove the mariadb libs from 5.x to install. The dependencies are met, yum just can't figure it out.
Some of my documentation is a bit out of date, but no one is paying me, so...
I do things differently than "software collections" - my philosophy is to just replace the system provided versions rather than put them in /opt.
I have that philosophy because I prefer to set up a VPS for a purpose and if that purpose is a LAMP stack I don't see the point of keeping the crusty MariaDB / PHP in place so I just replace them with modern versions which largely are modified when needed Fedora spec files.
With the exception that I build against LibreSSL instead of against OpenSSL.
Hi,
Friday, March 15, 2019, 8:51:15 AM, you wrote:
NK> As you all know, CentOS 7 is shipping PHP 5.4, which is OK in some NK> situations. Unfortunately, some applications like OwnCloud require a NK> more recent version of PHP.
I had the same problem a few weeks ago and decided to stick with the webtatic repository. As our typo3 instance required 7.0, I updated from php.5.6 to php.7.0 by simply "yum remove php56w ..." and "yum install php70w ...". Everything went smooth and without problem. Before I updated, I checked if all used 5.6 packages were available in the 7.0 version.
I took that path because I could easily identify that all required packages were available in both versions. This might be more complicated if I would have moved from webtatic-5.6 to remy-7.0.
You may also consider to crossgrade from owncloud to nextcloud :-)
best regards --- Michael Schumacher
Le 15/03/2019 à 09:29, Michael Schumacher a écrit :
I had the same problem a few weeks ago and decided to stick with the webtatic repository. As our typo3 instance required 7.0, I updated from php.5.6 to php.7.0 by simply "yum remove php56w ..." and "yum install php70w ...". Everything went smooth and without problem. Before I updated, I checked if all used 5.6 packages were available in the 7.0 version.
After some more experimenting, I decided to opt for the same solution, and I went with PHP 7.1.
I wrote a little blog article on the subject :
https://www.microlinux.fr/php-71-centos/
Works like a charm.
Cheers,
Niki
On 15/03/2019 10:11, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Le 15/03/2019 à 09:29, Michael Schumacher a écrit :
I had the same problem a few weeks ago and decided to stick with the webtatic repository. As our typo3 instance required 7.0, I updated from php.5.6 to php.7.0 by simply "yum remove php56w ..." and "yum install php70w ...". Everything went smooth and without problem. Before I updated, I checked if all used 5.6 packages were available in the 7.0 version.
After some more experimenting, I decided to opt for the same solution, and I went with PHP 7.1.
I wrote a little blog article on the subject :
https://www.microlinux.fr/php-71-centos/
Works like a charm.
Cheers,
Niki
Probably late to the party, but why not just using the php 7 packages built/tested/distributed by CentOS (through SCLs SIG) ? Or is that because there is no enough documentation (and/or noise about the fact it's easy to install) about how to enable/use those ? (just curious)
One example : https://arrfab.net/posts/2018/Feb/20/using-newer-php-stack-built-and-distrib...
Le 18/03/2019 à 09:43, Fabian Arrotin a écrit :
Probably late to the party, but why not just using the php 7 packages built/tested/distributed by CentOS (through SCLs SIG) ? Or is that because there is no enough documentation (and/or noise about the fact it's easy to install) about how to enable/use those ? (just curious)
Thanks for the heads-up. For the record, I didn't know about anything about this fine documentation.
Anyway, I read through your article as well as Remi's documentation, which convinced me this was the way to go.
I ended up completely rewriting my article. Here's the updated version:
* https://www.microlinux.fr/php-71-centos/
You have an honorable mention in the "Remerciements" section.
Un gentil bonjour de la garrigue gardoise,
Niki
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On 15/03/19 8:51 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Hi,
As you all know, CentOS 7 is shipping PHP 5.4, which is OK in some situations. Unfortunately, some applications like OwnCloud require a more recent version of PHP.
Up until recently, I've been using PHP 5.6 packages from the Webtatic repository. Despite the bad press this third party repo seems to have, it has been working perfectly for me for a few years. Here's the PHP 5.6 packages I have on an OwnCloud server:
$ rpm -qa | grep php php56w-devel-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pdo-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-gd-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mysql-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-process-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pear-1.10.4-1.w7.noarch php56w-common-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-xml-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-redis-3.1.6-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-cli-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mcrypt-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-mbstring-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-igbinary-2.0.5-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-pecl-apcu-4.0.11-2.w7.x86_64 php56w-intl-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64 php56w-soap-5.6.40-1.w7.x86_64
Now I'll have to upgrade these to some version of PHP 7. So I googled "php 7 centos 7" and found quite a wealth of - sometimes contradictory - information.
- The "recommended" way of doing things seems to be the Red Hat
Software Collections. Correct me if I'm wrong. I wonder if this way of doing things will enable me to get all the PHP modules listed above.
- The use of Webtatic seems to be frowned upon. I still have to figure
out why, since this repository has always worked perfectly for me.
- Then there's another repository managed by Remi Collet. Any thoughts
on that?
And then there's also the question : which version of PHP 7 should I choose ? On my servers, I'm mainly hosting WordPress, Dolibarr and OwnCloud.
Any suggestions ? I'm no lamer for doing a bit of RTFM, so a pointer to documentation will do. The problem is not so much that there is no information on the subject. It's rather : there's too much. As we say in France : I'm confused about which saint to send my prayers to. :o)
Hi Niki,
I have been using the Remi Collet versions 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2 on a few servers that need later php versions. They seem to work as advertised, they have many supporting php libraries - not sure if they include all the ones you specify.
Currently using their 7.2.15 with no issues on CentOS 7.6 with selinux enabled and enforcing.
I use codeigniter v 3.1.10 and bonfire v 0.84 (my own updated version to use the latest codeigniter) plus a few other related systems: bootstrap 4.2.1, jquery 3.3.1 for my web development with this php version.
php 7.3 is bleeding edge in my view - only released 12/2018 so I'll wait a bit before going there as production needs some stability.
HTH Rob
Cheers,
Niki
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