Hi, In our company we have a DL380 ( 16gb ram) server with Windows server 2003 x86, this run only tomcat 6. We have 2 options: a) upgrade to windows 2008 x64 and b) migrate to Linux ( I mean centos 6 x64). I want to make some benchmarks.
Please help me to compare a and b. How I can make this benchmark?
On 11/04/2012 12:23 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
Hi, In our company we have a DL380 ( 16gb ram) server with Windows server 2003 x86, this run only tomcat 6. We have 2 options: a) upgrade to windows 2008 x64 and b) migrate to Linux ( I mean centos 6 x64). I want to make some benchmarks.
Please help me to compare a and b. How I can make this benchmark?
That's an extremely vague question. You need to explain what you are using your servers for, what performance issues you are worried about and so on.
In general though, performance is only one of many concerns you need to think about when deciding which OS to use. Do the program you need exist? How stable and tested are they? Is cost your main motivator? If so, have you factored in time needed to learn a new platform? How important is community and paid support?
On 11/04/2012 06:23 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
Hi, In our company we have a DL380 ( 16gb ram) server with Windows server 2003 x86, this run only tomcat 6. We have 2 options: a) upgrade to windows 2008 x64 and b) migrate to Linux ( I mean centos 6 x64). I want to make some benchmarks.
Please help me to compare a and b. How I can make this benchmark?
1. Add another HDD(s) or use existing free space to Install CentOS. 2. Copy data from NTFS (you can use ntfs-3g package) to ext4/LVM partition on new HDD 3. Install tomcat on CentOS and configure it to match tomcat on Windows server. 4. Run tests on one OS then reboot and run same tests on another. In this setup you can even run realtime tests on Linux in off-hours.
Hi Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rs wrote:
On 11/04/2012 06:23 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
Hi, In our company we have a DL380 ( 16gb ram) server with Windows server
2003
x86, this run only tomcat 6. We have 2 options: a) upgrade to windows 2008 x64 and b) migrate to
Linux (
I mean centos 6 x64). I want to make some benchmarks.
Please help me to compare a and b. How I can make this benchmark?
- Add another HDD(s) or use existing free space to Install CentOS.
ok
- Copy data from NTFS (you can use ntfs-3g package) to ext4/LVM
partition on new HDD
ok again
- Install tomcat on CentOS and configure it to match tomcat on Windows
server.
ok
- Run tests on one OS then reboot and run same tests on another. In
this setup you can even run realtime tests on Linux in off-hours.
you wrote "4. Run tests on one....". tests. I want to know about tests. What tests can help me to compare?
Best Regards, Ashkan R
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 00:06:23 +0330 Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
What tests can help me to compare?
What jobs are you running? Try some of those. Create some reports, view/create/update/delete some records, whatever it is that you do.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:21 AM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 11/04/12 12:36 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
you wrote "4. Run tests on one....". tests. I want to know about tests. What tests can help me to compare?
what does your web application do which is performance sensitive?
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Server has a HSM (hardware security module), and there is a MSSQL on another server. application has thousand hit per day. HSM and MsSQL handled by application. very little file system dependency which can easily solve. I don't have detail information about how application work. if there is some important point, please tell me.
On 11/04/12 8:41 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
Server has a HSM (hardware security module), and there is a MSSQL on another server. application has thousand hit per day. HSM and MsSQL handled by application.
does this HSM have linux support, and if so what specific kernels and distributions are supported?
Interfacing to MS SQL server from non-Microsoft environments can be challenging, especially if active directory authentication is required.... I don't know the state of JDBC for MS SQL Server, if its self contained or requires external interface components (you did say Tomcat, so I assume this is a Java application?)
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:05 AM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 11/04/12 8:41 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
Server has a HSM (hardware security module), and there is a MSSQL on another server. application has thousand hit per day. HSM and MsSQL handled by application.
does this HSM have linux support, and if so what specific kernels and distributions are supported?
Yes, it's totally supported. It has Linux software, distro independent.
Interfacing to MS SQL server from non-Microsoft environments can be challenging, especially if active directory authentication is required.... I don't know the state of JDBC for MS SQL Server, if its self contained or requires external interface components (you did say Tomcat, so I assume this is a Java application?)
sorry, I forgot, yes this is java, there is not any problem to interact
with windows env. . No need to Active directory, It has own authentication methods, integrated to HSM. application just need data base. Application has some component, they are cross platform. in fact we tested application in Centos 6 x64 + Tomcat 6, worked well. no error, no dependency to windows. what is important to me is, I don't know how to make some meaningful comparison between windows and Linux server with same tomcat and ... configuration. I need to make a document with charts and statistics. running both OS and ask user what they think, can not answer my needs!
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-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ashkan Rahmani Sent: den 5 november 2012 06:52 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Migrate to Linux Server
I need to make a document with charts and statistics. running both OS and ask user what they think, can not answer my needs!
If you're looking for a benchmark test suite, have a look at Phoronix. I believe they have a free set available for download for both Windows and Linux.
HTH.
On 11/04/2012 09:36 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
- Run tests on one OS then reboot and run same tests on another. In
this setup you can even run realtime tests on Linux in off-hours.
you wrote "4. Run tests on one....". tests. I want to know about tests. What tests can help me to compare?
If you install CentOS on spare HDD and setup tomcat exactly it is on Windows, then you can organize users to simulate use of your application just like they would on Windows server. You can schedule shutdown of Windows server and reboot to CentOS with same IP address, and signal users to simulate regular usage of application with prepared data.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rs wrote:
On 11/04/2012 09:36 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
- Run tests on one OS then reboot and run same tests on another. In
this setup you can even run realtime tests on Linux in off-hours.
you wrote "4. Run tests on one....". tests. I want to know about tests. What tests can help me to compare?
If you install CentOS on spare HDD and setup tomcat exactly it is on Windows, then you can organize users to simulate use of your application just like they would on Windows server. You can schedule shutdown of Windows server and reboot to CentOS with same IP address, and signal users to simulate regular usage of application with prepared data.
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yes, I'm going to configure Centos on this week. thank you.
Hi,
Am 04.11.12 21:36, schrieb Ashkan Rahmani:
Hi Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rs wrote:
On 11/04/2012 06:23 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
<..:>
- Run tests on one OS then reboot and run same tests on another. In
this setup you can even run realtime tests on Linux in off-hours.
you wrote "4. Run tests on one....". tests. I want to know about tests. What tests can help me to compare?
http://www.devshed.com/c/a/BrainDump/Benchmarking-Tomcat-Performance/
and
Preface http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/FAQ/Performance_and_Monitoring
HTH 2 /Götz
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator < goetz.reinicke@filmakademie.de> wrote:
Hi,
Am 04.11.12 21:36, schrieb Ashkan Rahmani:
Hi Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rs
wrote:
On 11/04/2012 06:23 PM, Ashkan Rahmani wrote:
<..:>
- Run tests on one OS then reboot and run same tests on another. In
this setup you can even run realtime tests on Linux in off-hours.
you wrote "4. Run tests on one....". tests. I want to know about tests. What tests can help me to compare?
http://www.devshed.com/c/a/BrainDump/Benchmarking-Tomcat-Performance/
and
Preface http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/FAQ/Performance_and_Monitoring
HTH 2 /Götz
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thank you very much. really useful.