Heya,
First post to this list. have to say from what I have read in the passed couple months. damn you people are knowledgeable in this stuff!
Anyways, I just setup a centos box for my personal little server at home. Basically just a small personal, non-corporate server that runs a webserver, DNS server, MySQL, and recently I installed webmin.
The other night I took a peak through webmin to see what kind of things you could do with it and came across this Smart Drive option. Upon further investigation this option appears to show information about my hard drive as the Maxtor drives I have in my server have smart drive capability. They are just a standard IDE drive nothing fancy.
When looking at this report I noticed a field called Errors and my Drive had 200 errors. What does this mean? Errors are usually not a good thing. is this a cause for concern? Is there any drive utility tools out there that fix these errors? Server seems to run fine. so I don't know what to think about these errors. That's on my main drive. My other backup drive has about 10,000 errors on it and that causes me some concern heh.
Location
IDE device A
Drive size
29 GB
Make and model
Maxtor 6E030L0
Supports SMART?
Yes
SMART enabled?
Yes
Errors logged
300 errors detected
Passed drive check?
Yes
Should I be concerned about these errors even though it does say it passed the drive check? If so, anyone know how I can fix them? Or is this just normal hard drive life?
Any info would be great. Thanks!
- James
Take a look at /var/log/messages to get more info about the errors.
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:16, James Gagnon wrote:
Heya,
First post to this list. have to say from what I have read in the passed couple months. damn you people are knowledgeable in this stuff!
Anyways, I just setup a centos box for my personal little server at home. Basically just a small personal, non-corporate server that runs a webserver, DNS server, MySQL, and recently I installed webmin.
The other night I took a peak through webmin to see what kind of things you could do with it and came across this Smart Drive option. Upon further investigation this option appears to show information about my hard drive as the Maxtor drives I have in my server have smart drive capability. They are just a standard IDE drive nothing fancy.
When looking at this report I noticed a field called Errors and my Drive had 200 errors. What does this mean? Errors are usually not a good thing. is this a cause for concern? Is there any drive utility tools out there that fix these errors? Server seems to run fine. so I don't know what to think about these errors. That's on my main drive. My other backup drive has about 10,000 errors on it and that causes me some concern heh.
Location
IDE device A
Drive size
29 GB
Make and model
Maxtor 6E030L0
Supports SMART?
Yes
SMART enabled?
Yes
Errors logged
300 errors detected
Passed drive check?
Yes
Should I be concerned about these errors even though it does say it passed the drive check? If so, anyone know how I can fix them? Or is this just normal hard drive life?
Any info would be great. Thanks!
- James
Sometimes the smart monitoring considers things as errors that really aren't
Here is an example from one of my servers: =====================================================
This email was generated by the smartd daemon running on:
host name: xxxxxxx.farrows.org DNS domain: [Unknown] NIS domain: (none)
The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:
Device: /dev/hda, Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours.
For details see host's SYSLOG (default: /var/log/messages).
You can also use the smartctl utility for further investigation. The original email about this issue was sent at Tue Dec 13 10:49:47 2005 GMT Another email message will be sent in 24 hours if the problem persists.
=======================================================
P.
Benjamin Smith wrote:
Take a look at /var/log/messages to get more info about the errors.
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:16, James Gagnon wrote:
Heya,
First post to this list. have to say from what I have read in the passed couple months. damn you people are knowledgeable in this stuff!
Anyways, I just setup a centos box for my personal little server at home. Basically just a small personal, non-corporate server that runs a webserver, DNS server, MySQL, and recently I installed webmin.
The other night I took a peak through webmin to see what kind of things you could do with it and came across this Smart Drive option. Upon further investigation this option appears to show information about my hard drive as the Maxtor drives I have in my server have smart drive capability. They are just a standard IDE drive nothing fancy.
When looking at this report I noticed a field called Errors and my Drive had 200 errors. What does this mean? Errors are usually not a good thing. is this a cause for concern? Is there any drive utility tools out there that fix these errors? Server seems to run fine. so I don't know what to think about these errors. That's on my main drive. My other backup drive has about 10,000 errors on it and that causes me some concern heh.
Location
IDE device A
Drive size
29 GB
Make and model
Maxtor 6E030L0
Supports SMART?
Yes
SMART enabled?
Yes
Errors logged
300 errors detected
Passed drive check?
Yes
Should I be concerned about these errors even though it does say it passed the drive check? If so, anyone know how I can fix them? Or is this just normal hard drive life?
Any info would be great. Thanks!
- James
Thanks for the info... Yeah the only errors I see in /var/log/messages are:
smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 38 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 34 Offline uncorrectable sectors
So obviously there is an issue with some sectors on the hard drive.. just don't know how much I should worry about it at this time...
James
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Peter Farrow Sent: January 20, 2006 2:53 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hard Drive Errors
Sometimes the smart monitoring considers things as errors that really aren't
Here is an example from one of my servers: =====================================================
This email was generated by the smartd daemon running on:
host name: xxxxxxx.farrows.org DNS domain: [Unknown] NIS domain: (none)
The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:
Device: /dev/hda, Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours.
For details see host's SYSLOG (default: /var/log/messages).
You can also use the smartctl utility for further investigation. The original email about this issue was sent at Tue Dec 13 10:49:47 2005 GMT Another email message will be sent in 24 hours if the problem persists.
=======================================================
P.
Benjamin Smith wrote:
Take a look at /var/log/messages to get more info about the errors.
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:16, James Gagnon wrote:
Heya,
First post to this list. have to say from what I have read in the passed couple months. damn you people are knowledgeable in this stuff!
Anyways, I just setup a centos box for my personal little server at home. Basically just a small personal, non-corporate server that runs a
webserver,
DNS server, MySQL, and recently I installed webmin.
The other night I took a peak through webmin to see what kind of things
you
could do with it and came across this Smart Drive option. Upon further investigation this option appears to show information about my hard drive
as
the Maxtor drives I have in my server have smart drive capability. They
are
just a standard IDE drive nothing fancy.
When looking at this report I noticed a field called Errors and my Drive
had
200 errors. What does this mean? Errors are usually not a good thing. is this a cause for concern? Is there any drive utility tools out there that fix these errors? Server seems to run fine. so I don't know what to think about these errors. That's on my main drive. My other backup drive has about 10,000 errors on it and that causes me some concern heh.
Location
IDE device A
Drive size
29 GB
Make and model
Maxtor 6E030L0
Supports SMART?
Yes
SMART enabled?
Yes
Errors logged
300 errors detected
Passed drive check?
Yes
Should I be concerned about these errors even though it does say it passed the drive check? If so, anyone know how I can fix them? Or is this just normal hard drive life?
Any info would be great. Thanks!
- James
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Watch the numbers to see if they increase...
P.
James Gagnon wrote:
Thanks for the info... Yeah the only errors I see in /var/log/messages are:
smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 38 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 34 Offline uncorrectable sectors
So obviously there is an issue with some sectors on the hard drive.. just don't know how much I should worry about it at this time...
James
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Peter Farrow Sent: January 20, 2006 2:53 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hard Drive Errors
Sometimes the smart monitoring considers things as errors that really aren't
Here is an example from one of my servers:
This email was generated by the smartd daemon running on:
host name: xxxxxxx.farrows.org DNS domain: [Unknown] NIS domain: (none)
The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:
Device: /dev/hda, Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours.
For details see host's SYSLOG (default: /var/log/messages).
You can also use the smartctl utility for further investigation. The original email about this issue was sent at Tue Dec 13 10:49:47 2005 GMT Another email message will be sent in 24 hours if the problem persists.
=======================================================
P.
Benjamin Smith wrote:
Take a look at /var/log/messages to get more info about the errors.
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:16, James Gagnon wrote:
Heya,
First post to this list. have to say from what I have read in the passed couple months. damn you people are knowledgeable in this stuff!
Anyways, I just setup a centos box for my personal little server at home. Basically just a small personal, non-corporate server that runs a
webserver,
DNS server, MySQL, and recently I installed webmin.
The other night I took a peak through webmin to see what kind of things
you
could do with it and came across this Smart Drive option. Upon further investigation this option appears to show information about my hard drive
as
the Maxtor drives I have in my server have smart drive capability. They
are
just a standard IDE drive nothing fancy.
When looking at this report I noticed a field called Errors and my Drive
had
200 errors. What does this mean? Errors are usually not a good thing. is this a cause for concern? Is there any drive utility tools out there that fix these errors? Server seems to run fine. so I don't know what to think about these errors. That's on my main drive. My other backup drive has about 10,000 errors on it and that causes me some concern heh.
Location
IDE device A
Drive size
29 GB
Make and model
Maxtor 6E030L0
Supports SMART?
Yes
SMART enabled?
Yes
Errors logged
300 errors detected
Passed drive check?
Yes
Should I be concerned about these errors even though it does say it passed the drive check? If so, anyone know how I can fix them? Or is this just normal hard drive life?
Any info would be great. Thanks!
- James
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Sounds good... The smartd showing 300 errors thing has not moved since I started checking out smartd 2-3 weeks ago... but will keep an eye on that too.
As for the numbers in the actual /var/log/messages file ill keep my eye on those numbers and see what happens they don't seem to add up to the 300 that smartd seems to indicate... will watch and see what happens... May have to contact Maxtor...
Thanks Peter!
James
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Peter Farrow Sent: January 20, 2006 3:21 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hard Drive Errors
Watch the numbers to see if they increase...
P.
James Gagnon wrote:
Thanks for the info... Yeah the only errors I see in /var/log/messages are:
smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 38 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 34 Offline uncorrectable sectors
So obviously there is an issue with some sectors on the hard drive.. just don't know how much I should worry about it at this time...
James
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Peter Farrow Sent: January 20, 2006 2:53 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hard Drive Errors
Sometimes the smart monitoring considers things as errors that really
aren't
Here is an example from one of my servers:
This email was generated by the smartd daemon running on:
host name: xxxxxxx.farrows.org DNS domain: [Unknown] NIS domain: (none)
The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:
Device: /dev/hda, Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours.
For details see host's SYSLOG (default: /var/log/messages).
You can also use the smartctl utility for further investigation. The original email about this issue was sent at Tue Dec 13 10:49:47 2005
GMT
Another email message will be sent in 24 hours if the problem persists.
=======================================================
P.
Benjamin Smith wrote:
Take a look at /var/log/messages to get more info about the errors.
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:16, James Gagnon wrote:
Heya,
First post to this list. have to say from what I have read in the passed couple months. damn you people are knowledgeable in this stuff!
Anyways, I just setup a centos box for my personal little server at home. Basically just a small personal, non-corporate server that runs a
webserver,
DNS server, MySQL, and recently I installed webmin.
The other night I took a peak through webmin to see what kind of things
you
could do with it and came across this Smart Drive option. Upon further investigation this option appears to show information about my hard drive
as
the Maxtor drives I have in my server have smart drive capability. They
are
just a standard IDE drive nothing fancy.
When looking at this report I noticed a field called Errors and my Drive
had
200 errors. What does this mean? Errors are usually not a good thing.
is
this a cause for concern? Is there any drive utility tools out there
that
fix these errors? Server seems to run fine. so I don't know what to
think
about these errors. That's on my main drive. My other backup drive has about 10,000 errors on it and that causes me some concern heh.
Location
IDE device A
Drive size
29 GB
Make and model
Maxtor 6E030L0
Supports SMART?
Yes
SMART enabled?
Yes
Errors logged
300 errors detected
Passed drive check?
Yes
Should I be concerned about these errors even though it does say it
passed
the drive check? If so, anyone know how I can fix them? Or is this just normal hard drive life?
Any info would be great. Thanks!
- James
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 16:15, James Gagnon wrote:
Thanks for the info... Yeah the only errors I see in /var/log/messages are:
smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 38 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 34 Offline uncorrectable sectors
So obviously there is an issue with some sectors on the hard drive.. just don't know how much I should worry about it at this time...
If the drive is still under warranty you might want to run the smartctl tests or the vendor's diagnostics (might require moving to a windows box). Otherwise just make sure you have a backup of anything critical (good advice in any case).
Thats a good point, its quite normal for a small number of bad sectors to be present, and the drive will silently remap these.
Usually the bad sectors will be spread over the drive if they all fall in one place or explosively increase over a few days thats when your in trouble and thats when the smartd will report the drive is about to fail,
currently its not at the "about to fail" level.
Most hard disk manufacturers won't replace a drive unless the total number of bad sectors is more than 1% of the drive, as of late though with disks become huge compared to the "good old days", this can now be gigs of bad sectors which I would consider unsatisfactory....
You've only got 72 unreadable sectors this probably equates to about 36kbytes on the whole disk, which is probably at the very least a few gigs....
Not something that would bother me... unless the numbers are on the move!
P.
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 16:15, James Gagnon wrote:
Thanks for the info... Yeah the only errors I see in /var/log/messages are:
smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 38 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors smartd[2019]: Device: /dev/hda, 34 Offline uncorrectable sectors
So obviously there is an issue with some sectors on the hard drive.. just don't know how much I should worry about it at this time...
If the drive is still under warranty you might want to run the smartctl tests or the vendor's diagnostics (might require moving to a windows box). Otherwise just make sure you have a backup of anything critical (good advice in any case).
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