Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final? like it in days, weeks or months?
Arya wrote:
Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final? like it in days, weeks or months?
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Duck for cover.....
Should be any day now if rumours are to be believed.
We are all excited and can't wait......but we will have to.
Happy Easter.
PS - Please don't turn this into the OpenBSD mailing list by flaming the centos noob.
Centos-admin wrote:
Arya wrote:
Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final? like it in days, weeks or months?
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Duck for cover..... Should be any day now if rumours are to be believed. We are all excited and can't wait......but we will have to. Happy Easter.
PS - Please don't turn this into the OpenBSD mailing list by flaming the centos noob.
Arya,
Open up google and copy this into the search bar "site:www.centos.org centos 5" without the quotes, and you will have all the reading material you need for a couple of days. Also you could go to:
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2007-April/078428.html
and follow the thread.
HTH!!
Lee Perez
as has been mentioned..google and reading the archives is your friend..:)
Arya wrote:
Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final? like it in days, weeks or months?
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Michael Watters wrote:
Arya wrote:
Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final? like it in days, weeks or months?
When it's done.
Wait - that's the reason I'm not using Debian...
Is there anyway or recommended to upgrade from Centos 5 Beta to final release in a production environment?
On 4/9/07, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Watters wrote:
Arya wrote:
Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if this has been asked
before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final? like it in days, weeks or months?
When it's done.
Wait - that's the reason I'm not using Debian...
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--- Arya arya6000@gmail.com wrote:
Is there anyway or recommended to upgrade from Centos 5 Beta to final release in a production environment?
On 4/9/07, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Watters wrote:
Arya wrote:
Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if
this has been asked
before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final?
like it in days, weeks
or months?
When it's done.
Wait - that's the reason I'm not using Debian...
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Call me dense...
but did i read that correctly? you are running Beta 5 in production??
Steven
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows or better'. So I installed Linux."
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On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 11:01:37AM -0700, Steven Vishoot wrote:
Call me dense...
DENSE! YOU ARE DENSE!
Happy now ?
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Rodrigo Barbosa spake the following on 4/9/2007 11:28 AM:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 11:01:37AM -0700, Steven Vishoot wrote:
Call me dense...
DENSE! YOU ARE DENSE!
Happy now ?
He asked for that one!
Steven Vishoot wrote:
Call me dense...
but did i read that correctly? you are running Beta 5 in production??
G'day, Dense.
I'm running RHEL5 beta1 in production.
I needed the latest HPIJ/OJ stuff, and it didn't run on CentOS 4. Therefore, I tried RHEL5 beta 1 and it works.
Security isn't a concern, it's well-protected behind a NATting firewall, and Mrs S is no risk.
What's the problem?
John Summerfield wrote:
Steven Vishoot wrote:
Call me dense...
but did i read that correctly? you are running Beta 5 in production??
G'day, Dense.
I'm running RHEL5 beta1 in production.
I needed the latest HPIJ/OJ stuff, and it didn't run on CentOS 4. Therefore, I tried RHEL5 beta 1 and it works.
Security isn't a concern, it's well-protected behind a NATting firewall, and Mrs S is no risk.
What's the problem?
That is because you are a Debian guy. It is shocking to run Fedora, betas, alphas in production here. Please take your community maintained mindset away! ARGH!
Maybe we should call Dense Paranoid.
Ter, 2007-04-10 às 20:06 +0800, Feizhou escreveu:
What's the problem?
That is because you are a Debian guy. It is shocking to run Fedora, betas, alphas in production here. Please take your community maintained mindset away! ARGH!
What you say is hardly related to someone being a "Debian guy". I know quite a few Debian admins who don't use anything but stable releases on production machines.
Rui
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Ter, 2007-04-10 às 20:06 +0800, Feizhou escreveu:
What's the problem?
That is because you are a Debian guy. It is shocking to run Fedora, betas, alphas in production here. Please take your community maintained mindset away! ARGH!
What you say is hardly related to someone being a "Debian guy". I know quite a few Debian admins who don't use anything but stable releases on production machines.
The point is that one must first run software that will do the job. At the time I set it up, RHEL5 beta1 was the only option available, except possibly Fedora Core 6. On the machine where I tested FC6, it performed worse (ie not usefully) than RHEL5 beta1. Since the print server now works, there's no need to update its software, and doing so may break it.
Feizhou wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Steven Vishoot wrote:
Call me dense...
but did i read that correctly? you are running Beta 5 in production??
G'day, Dense.
I'm running RHEL5 beta1 in production.
I needed the latest HPIJ/OJ stuff, and it didn't run on CentOS 4. Therefore, I tried RHEL5 beta 1 and it works.
Security isn't a concern, it's well-protected behind a NATting firewall, and Mrs S is no risk.
What's the problem?
That is because you are a Debian guy. It is shocking to run Fedora, betas, alphas in production here. Please take your community maintained mindset away! ARGH!
What on earth are you talking about? Within ten metres of me I have 1 laptop running OS X Two laptops running Fedora Core 5 (which I must upgrade soon) One laptop running OpenSUSE 10.2 plus a SLED guest. One Desktop running Ubuntu Warty My desktop, running self-build Nahant, mostly. One print server mentioned above. One Pentium II firewall running Debian Sarge. One test computer, currently running Kubuntu 6.10. One test computer, currently running Debian Etch. One server running WBEL 4. Elsewhere. I own one computer running CentOS 4, and at work my desktop's running CentOS 4.
What's your qualification to judge me?
John Summerfield wrote:
Feizhou wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Steven Vishoot wrote:
Call me dense...
but did i read that correctly? you are running Beta 5 in production??
G'day, Dense.
I'm running RHEL5 beta1 in production.
I needed the latest HPIJ/OJ stuff, and it didn't run on CentOS 4. Therefore, I tried RHEL5 beta 1 and it works.
Security isn't a concern, it's well-protected behind a NATting firewall, and Mrs S is no risk.
What's the problem?
That is because you are a Debian guy. It is shocking to run Fedora, betas, alphas in production here. Please take your community maintained mindset away! ARGH!
What on earth are you talking about? Within ten metres of me I have
What's your qualification to judge me?
Oops...it was supposed to be a joke...I guess the 'call Dense Paranoid' was not a strong enough hint.
I just took note of the debian@ in your addy to say you are a Debian guy :P
Sorry folks. Bad joke. I run Open Solaris in production so I am really joking about the 'shocking' to run betas, alphas or what not in production. It would have been an 'alpha' nexenta too if I did not need to try out the latest iscsi_target code available with a newer Solaris Express release. Running a distro that gets updated on a monthly basis in production over here :P
Feizhou wrote:
That is because you are a Debian guy. It is shocking to run Fedora, betas, alphas in production here. Please take your community maintained mindset away! ARGH!
What on earth are you talking about? Within ten metres of me I have
What's your qualification to judge me?
Oops...it was supposed to be a joke...I guess the 'call Dense Paranoid' was not a strong enough hint.
I just took note of the debian@ in your addy to say you are a Debian guy :P
I first used debian@ on the taroon beta:-) It doesn't get a lot of spam, so I keep using it.
Sorry folks. Bad joke. I run Open Solaris in production so I am really
twit-- :-)
btw I tried solaris: when its disk partitioning tool clobbered my partition table - it didn't seem to have a read-only mode - I didn't bother reinstalling it.
I first used debian@ on the taroon beta:-) It doesn't get a lot of spam, so I keep using it.
:O. A SIX CHARACTER username addy not getting spam? I have a SEVEN character username addy and I get loads.
Sorry folks. Bad joke. I run Open Solaris in production so I am really
twit-- :-)
:D (I prefer to think that I am riding the next great wave. Oops...dons shield, helmet and armour)
btw I tried solaris: when its disk partitioning tool clobbered my partition table - it didn't seem to have a read-only mode - I didn't bother reinstalling it.
Ah, Solaris partitions. Got to love them :D
I guess you would say the same for the trixbox live cd...it will completely trash your disk and install itself :D
Feizhou wrote:
I first used debian@ on the taroon beta:-) It doesn't get a lot of spam, so I keep using it.
:O. A SIX CHARACTER username addy not getting spam? I have a SEVEN character username addy and I get loads.
Try it.
Oh, having an email address dedicated to mailing lists helps. filtering on list-id helps: stuff that lands in INBOX is immediately suspect, and PINE is really good for cleaning out unwanted email without opening it. Probably MUTT is too, but I reckon it's a dog.
btw I've had a great idea to completely kill off spammers, and twits who reply off-list, and I intend to implement it when I move to somewhere I can have ADSL.
It's simple: email addresses for use on lists will only be accessible to servers hosting those lists. For example, I would have one or more addresses at my.lists.example.com and I will write DNAT rules (using shorewall) to forward connexions from mail.centos.org and some other select sites to the box that hosts those addresses. Anyone else would connect to mail.example.com which doesn't know those addresses, so they will get the usual 5xx errors. A DNAT rule in shorewall looks like this: DNAT net loc:192.168.1.252 tcp 25 and I can restrict it by source address.
Spammers beaten.
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On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:07:15AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
Feizhou wrote:
I first used debian@ on the taroon beta:-) It doesn't get a lot of spam, so I keep using it.
:O. A SIX CHARACTER username addy not getting spam? I have a SEVEN character username addy and I get loads.
Try it.
Oh, having an email address dedicated to mailing lists helps. filtering on list-id helps: stuff that lands in INBOX is immediately suspect, and PINE is really good for cleaning out unwanted email without opening it. Probably MUTT is too, but I reckon it's a dog.
Pine ... Mutt ... Pfft. That is a job for procmail :)
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Rodrigo Barbosa wrote:
Oh, having an email address dedicated to mailing lists helps. filtering on list-id helps: stuff that lands in INBOX is immediately suspect, and PINE is really good for cleaning out unwanted email without opening it. Probably MUTT is too, but I reckon it's a dog.
Pine ... Mutt ... Pfft. That is a job for procmail :)
Thus far, I've not discovered how users run procmail on imap servers where they don't have shell accounts.
bsides, my eyes are the final arbiter on what constitutes spam: I get one false positive in some thousands, but those false positives tend to be my stockbroker:-(
John Summerfield spake the following on 4/10/2007 4:36 PM:
Rodrigo Barbosa wrote:
Oh, having an email address dedicated to mailing lists helps. filtering on list-id helps: stuff that lands in INBOX is immediately suspect, and PINE is really good for cleaning out unwanted email without opening it. Probably MUTT is too, but I reckon it's a dog.
Pine ... Mutt ... Pfft. That is a job for procmail :)
Thus far, I've not discovered how users run procmail on imap servers where they don't have shell accounts.
bsides, my eyes are the final arbiter on what constitutes spam: I get one false positive in some thousands, but those false positives tend to be my stockbroker:-(
Since a lot of spam is stock spam, you almost have to whitelist your broker.
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 10:06:03PM +0800, Feizhou wrote:
I run Open Solaris in production (...)
Gaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Can we start the flaying now ? Please ?
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:09:14PM -0400, Don Levey wrote:
Feizhou wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 10:06:03PM +0800, Feizhou wrote:
I run Open Solaris in production (...)
Gaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Can we start the flaying now ? Please ?
No. :)
What, we've got to wait for the mirrors to fully synchronise before we do *that* too?
You, Sir, made me laugh so hard I fell from my chair, injuring my butt.
You will be hearning from my lawyers soon.
ehehehehe
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On 4/10/07, John Summerfield debian@herakles.homelinux.org wrote:
What on earth are you talking about? Within ten metres of me I have 1 laptop running OS X Two laptops running Fedora Core 5 (which I must upgrade soon) One laptop running OpenSUSE 10.2 plus a SLED guest. One Desktop running Ubuntu Warty My desktop, running self-build Nahant, mostly. One print server mentioned above. One Pentium II firewall running Debian Sarge. One test computer, currently running Kubuntu 6.10. One test computer, currently running Debian Etch. One server running WBEL 4. Elsewhere. I own one computer running CentOS 4, and at work my desktop's running CentOS 4.
John, you obviously have too many machines running to keep track of them all.
I keep thinking I need more hardware, so how about lending me a few for a couple of years or so - a laptop would be nice....
;^)
mhr
Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
On 4/10/07, John Summerfield debian@herakles.homelinux.org wrote:
John, you obviously have too many machines running to keep track of them all.
I keep thinking I need more hardware, so how about lending me a few for a couple of years or so - a laptop would be nice....
;^)
You wish:-( What then would I play with?
On 4/10/07, John Summerfield debian@herakles.homelinux.org wrote:
Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
On 4/10/07, John Summerfield debian@herakles.homelinux.org wrote: John, you obviously have too many machines running to keep track of them all.
I keep thinking I need more hardware, so how about lending me a few for
a
couple of years or so - a laptop would be nice....
;^)
You wish:-( What then would I play with?
The other nine or ten, of course!
:-)
mhr
Arya spake the following on 4/9/2007 9:24 AM:
Is there anyway or recommended to upgrade from Centos 5 Beta to final release in a production environment?
It was never recommended to run CentOS 5 beta in a production environment in the first place, so I doubt that the upgrade would be recommended.
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Les Mikesell wrote:
Michael Watters wrote:
Arya wrote:
Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final? like it in days, weeks or months?
When it's done.
Wait - that's the reason I'm not using Debian...
clap, clap, clap....
Excelent response Les!!! :-)
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I Think someone has to put a big FAQ in the home page about Centos5, so that people stop asking for it.
Arya, to your question, there is no timeframe. Just keep waiting and testing the beta realease
Oliver
Arya wrote:
Hello
I'm new to this mailing list, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
Is there any release dates for centos 5 final? like it in days, weeks or months?
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Thats true ;)
Feizhou wrote:
You only get the fun once a few years :D