I just downloaded the Centos 5.3 live-cd and booted the resulting disk. I do not see an icon to install from the cd!
Did i get the wrong thing? I have a fixed allocation of bandwidth and hate to waste 700+ megs!
Bob
From: Bob Goodwin bobgoodwin@wildblue.net
I just downloaded the Centos 5.3 live-cd and booted the resulting disk. I do not see an icon to install from the cd! Did i get the wrong thing? I have a fixed allocation of bandwidth and hate to waste 700+ megs!
AFAIK, the live CD is just a live CD; not an install CD... To install CentOS, you need to download the install CDs or the DVD or the small netinstall CD.
CentOS-5.3-<ARCH>-bin-[1..6]of6.iso or CentOS-5.3-<ARCH>-bin-DVD.iso or CentOS-5.3-<ARCH>-netinstall.iso
JD
Bob Goodwin wrote:
I just downloaded the Centos 5.3 live-cd and booted the resulting disk. I do not see an icon to install from the cd!
Did i get the wrong thing? I have a fixed allocation of bandwidth and hate to waste 700+ megs!
Bob
IMO, if you're on a dial-up or other slow connection, your waste was not in downloading the live CD, rather in not springing for a few bucks to buy a Live CD and an installation DVD (or set of 6 CDs). I still remember downloading Star Office 5.something years ago. Painful...
Robert wrote:
Bob Goodwin wrote:
I just downloaded the Centos 5.3 live-cd and booted the resulting disk. I do not see an icon to install from the cd!
Did i get the wrong thing? I have a fixed allocation of bandwidth and hate to waste 700+ megs!
Bob
IMO, if you're on a dial-up or other slow connection, your waste was not in downloading the live CD, rather in not springing for a few bucks to buy a Live CD and an installation DVD (or set of 6 CDs). I still remember downloading Star Office 5.something years ago. Painful...
Ok, I may have botched that one. I have been routinely using the fedora Live-cd's to install from. Wildblue is a satellite system and I only get 17 gig's/30 days and I spread that among four other members of the household.
I will have to look further, there were some options on the opening screen that I ignored. Else my NFS server will just have to live with Fedora and it's turnover.
And yes I have bought a number of CD's but downloading stuff gets it right now when I need it.
Thanks for the response.
Bob
Bob Goodwin wrote:
Robert wrote:
Bob Goodwin wrote:
I just downloaded the Centos 5.3 live-cd and booted the resulting disk. I do not see an icon to install from the cd!
Did i get the wrong thing? I have a fixed allocation of bandwidth and hate to waste 700+ megs!
Bob
IMO, if you're on a dial-up or other slow connection, your waste was not in downloading the live CD, rather in not springing for a few bucks to buy a Live CD and an installation DVD (or set of 6 CDs). I still remember downloading Star Office 5.something years ago. Painful...
Ok, I may have botched that one. I have been routinely using the fedora Live-cd's to install from. Wildblue is a satellite system and I only get 17 gig's/30 days and I spread that among four other members of the household.
I will have to look further, there were some options on the opening screen that I ignored.
You can do a netinstall via the LiveCD too. This is identical to doing the install via the netinstall CD.
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On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Johnny Hughes wrote:
You can do a netinstall via the LiveCD too. This is identical to doing the install via the netinstall CD.
Which again means lots of new downloads for him while installing over the 'net. I feel for the guy, having been on slow dialup with lots of noise on the long rural phone lines for years...
At Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT) CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Johnny Hughes wrote:
You can do a netinstall via the LiveCD too. This is identical to doing the install via the netinstall CD.
Which again means lots of new downloads for him while installing over the 'net. I feel for the guy, having been on slow dialup with lots of noise on the long rural phone lines for years...
Actually he is in *worse* shape: he is on satelite internet. With the Fair Use Limit, the first 450-500 meg will download quickly enough, then things will be *worse* than dial-up. He would have to halt the install and wait 24 hours and then resume it for the next 450-500 meg... Unless he does a super minimual install and then does a series of 'yum install ..', each under 500 meg each day until done. Could take all of a week that way, or about how long it would take for CheapBytes to mail out a CentOS 5.3 DVD or CD set...
Robert Heller wrote:
At Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT) CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Johnny Hughes wrote:
You can do a netinstall via the LiveCD too. This is identical to doing the install via the netinstall CD.
Which again means lots of new downloads for him while installing over the 'net. I feel for the guy, having been on slow dialup with lots of noise on the long rural phone lines for years...
Actually he is in *worse* shape: he is on satelite internet. With the Fair Use Limit, the first 450-500 meg will download quickly enough, then things will be *worse* than dial-up. He would have to halt the install and wait 24 hours and then resume it for the next 450-500 meg... Unless he does a super minimual install and then does a series of 'yum install ..', each under 500 meg each day until done. Could take all of a week that way, or about how long it would take for CheapBytes to mail out a CentOS 5.3 DVD or CD set...
Actually I only need a minimal install in that computer since I plan on using it as a file server.
As for the "fair use policy" the examples you cite apply to Hughes I believe but Wildblue is better in that respect. I could use the entire 17 gig's in one day if I wanted. There would be no problem with that but it would take me 30 days to recover bandwidth. So for someone doing Linux o/s downloads Wildblue is better. A good wired connection would be better yet and we would take that in a heart beat but it's not happening here in the sticks!
I have two other computers running F-10 installed from the live-cd. It does take some additional downloads to make them do what I want but then I'm only taking what I want which helps to keep it to a minimum. I think I still come out ahead that way.
Thanks for your comments.
Bob
On 08/10/2009 06:23 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Ok, I may have botched that one. I have been routinely using the fedora Live-cd's to install from. Wildblue is a satellite system and I only get 17 gig's/30 days and I spread that among four other members of the household.
Is there a local LUG ? there might be DVD's there to share.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Bob Goodwinbobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
Ok, I may have botched that one. I have been routinely using the fedora Live-cd's to install from. Wildblue is a satellite system and I only get 17 gig's/30 days and I spread that among four other members of the household.
I will have to look further, there were some options on the opening screen that I ignored. Else my NFS server will just have to live with Fedora and it's turnover.
And yes I have bought a number of CD's but downloading stuff gets it right now when I need it.
Thanks for the response.
If you've got limited access, the best way to install CentOS is probably to download the very small Netinstall ISO -- then do a network install. That way you save having to download all the updates right after installing.
Meanwhile, if you want, email me offline and I'll burn and send you a CentOS DVD.
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 15:26, Ron Blizzardrb4centos@gmail.com wrote:
If you've got limited access, the best way to install CentOS is probably to download the very small Netinstall ISO -- then do a network install. That way you save having to download all the updates right after installing.
Actually, as Johnny already said, you can use the LiveCD itself to do a netinstall. However, in that case, you will still download the packages from the Internet as they are installed.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 15:22, Bob Goodwinbobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
Actually I only need a minimal install in that computer since I plan on using it as a file server.
In that case you might want to download only CD 1 of CentOS, since (AFAIR) it's possible to do a minimal install using that CD only. (Please someone else that has done that recently confirm that this is indeed still possible.)
HTH, Filipe
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Filipe Brandenburgerfilbranden@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, as Johnny already said, you can use the LiveCD itself to do a netinstall. However, in that case, you will still download the packages from the Internet as they are installed.
I'm sorry, I should have made myself clear. I meant for future downloads. If you download the 8 Meg Netinstall.ISO, it's true that you still have to download the rest of the distribution -- but you're only downloading what you want, and you won't have to update immediately. I almost always use the NetInstall.ISO for CentOS installations.
At Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:37:42 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 15:26, Ron Blizzardrb4centos@gmail.com wrote:
If you've got limited access, the best way to install CentOS is probably to download the very small Netinstall ISO -- then do a network install. That way you save having to download all the updates right after installing.
Actually, as Johnny already said, you can use the LiveCD itself to do a netinstall. However, in that case, you will still download the packages from the Internet as they are installed.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 15:22, Bob Goodwinbobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
Actually I only need a minimal install in that computer since I plan on using it as a file server.
In that case you might want to download only CD 1 of CentOS, since (AFAIR) it's possible to do a minimal install using that CD only. (Please someone else that has done that recently confirm that this is indeed still possible.)
Yes, it is, but there is also a 'Server Install CD', which might be better. Many of the 'server' (deamon) RPMs are NOT on CD 1 of the CD set (instead it has other, more desktop-ish RPMs).
HTH, Filipe _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 05:33:29PM -0400, Robert Heller wrote:
At Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:37:42 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Yes, it is, but there is also a 'Server Install CD', which might be better. Many of the 'server' (deamon) RPMs are NOT on CD 1 of the CD set (instead it has other, more desktop-ish RPMs).
There is not a Server Install ISO image for 5.x; best bet is the netinstall.iso image.
John
At Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:43:22 -0500 "John R. Dennison" jrd@gerdesas.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 05:33:29PM -0400, Robert Heller wrote:
At Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:37:42 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Yes, it is, but there is also a 'Server Install CD', which might be better. Many of the 'server' (deamon) RPMs are NOT on CD 1 of the CD set (instead it has other, more desktop-ish RPMs).
There is not a Server Install ISO image for 5.x; best bet is the netinstall.iso image.
Hmm. I guess I saw the CentOS 4.7 Single ServerCD i386 on the http://www.centos.org/ page and thought there would also be a CentOS 5.x version as well...
John
Robert Heller wrote:
At Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:37:42 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 15:26, Ron Blizzardrb4centos@gmail.com wrote:
If you've got limited access, the best way to install CentOS is probably to download the very small Netinstall ISO -- then do a network install. That way you save having to download all the updates right after installing.
Actually, as Johnny already said, you can use the LiveCD itself to do a netinstall. However, in that case, you will still download the packages from the Internet as they are installed.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 15:22, Bob Goodwinbobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
Actually I only need a minimal install in that computer since I plan on using it as a file server.
In that case you might want to download only CD 1 of CentOS, since (AFAIR) it's possible to do a minimal install using that CD only. (Please someone else that has done that recently confirm that this is indeed still possible.)
Yes, it is, but there is also a 'Server Install CD', which might be better. Many of the 'server' (deamon) RPMs are NOT on CD 1 of the CD set (instead it has other, more desktop-ish RPMs).
HTH, Filipe _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
All I want is something that doesn't reach end of life so rapidly for this application. I should have checked more carefully.
I will try Scientific Linux which is supposed to install from the cd.
Thanks for the help.
Bob
Dear Bob,
All I want is something that doesn't reach end of life so rapidly for this application. I should have checked more carefully.
I will try Scientific Linux which is supposed to install from the cd.
Thanks for the help.
Patrice has created an installable 5.2 LiveCD, containing an updated (so not RHEL5 conform) version of Anaconda for installation:
http://www.nanotechnologies.qc.ca/propos/linux/centos-live/i386/isos/
You should also be able to create your own (more recent) installable LiveCD using livecd-creator, as described here:
https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/InstallToHardDrive
Best Regards Marcus
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