Hello CentOS developer team,
thank you very much for the release of CentOS 5.6. I have upgraded my server, notebook, netbook and workstation from 5.5 to 5.6 and everything works really fine so far, CentOS 5.6 seems to be rock solid.
The only little problem happens on the upgrade of my server, since my web server doesn't start after reboot. But this was easy to fix since this error was known from the RHEL 5.6 upgrade. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669963
I am grateful for the CentOS Project. I like it's stability and long-term support.
regards Olaf
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:35:30PM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
Hello CentOS developer team,
thank you very much for the release of CentOS 5.6. I have upgraded my server, notebook, netbook and workstation from 5.5 to 5.6 and everything works really fine so far, CentOS 5.6 seems to be rock solid.
The only little problem happens on the upgrade of my server, since my web server doesn't start after reboot. But this was easy to fix since this error was known from the RHEL 5.6 upgrade. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669963
I am grateful for the CentOS Project. I like it's stability and long-term support.
I haven't seen a 5.6 release announcement yet. Have I missed it?
If the announcement in fact hasn't been made, you may be premature in doing all your upgrading.... Just because there's something named "5.6" on the mirrors doesn't mean it's the FINAL release version, or that it's all in place.
fred smith wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:35:30PM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
I am grateful for the CentOS Project. I like it's stability and long-term support.
I haven't seen a 5.6 release announcement yet. Have I missed it?
I did not use the word announce in my post. I do not know what you miss or what you not miss. Also I do not know what your answer is good for.
$ cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.6 (Final) $ uname -a Linux meduseld.istari.de 2.6.18-238.el5 [...]
The following was posted on the CentOS devel-list on 4.4.2011: "5.6 is going out to the external mirrors at the moment, I am going to have torrents ready for later today and then maybe release announcement sometime tomorrow."
I downloaded the CentOS 5.6 isos from an official mirror recommended from the official CentOS web site.
If the announcement in fact hasn't been made, you may be premature in doing all your upgrading.... Just because there's something named "5.6" on the mirrors doesn't mean it's the FINAL release version, or that it's all in place.
For someone who asked if he had missed something, you do know really a lot of things. Seems to me you are more a man of word and discussion than a man of action. Go and find CentOS 5.6 yourself.
Primary my mail in this list has had two purposes. First to thank the CentOS developers for their work, secondly to warn for the httpd problem. But now I have to add something.
The climate in this list is really rough. So many discussions about the "unfathomable" development process of CentOS and so many angry people waiting for the 5.6 release due to them by law of nature. Why could you guys not go away? The door is open, there are so many other distributions out there. The fact that these guys will not go away and that they will fight their battles in this list, and devel-list, is finally a compliment for the CentOS project. CentOS is rock solid. The developers do a good and great job.
regards Olaf
On 4/8/2011 3:25 PM, Olaf Mueller wrote:
fred smith wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:35:30PM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
I am grateful for the CentOS Project. I like it's stability and long-term support.
I haven't seen a 5.6 release announcement yet. Have I missed it?
I did not use the word announce in my post. I do not know what you miss or what you not miss. Also I do not know what your answer is good for.
$ cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.6 (Final) $ uname -a Linux meduseld.istari.de 2.6.18-238.el5 [...]
The following was posted on the CentOS devel-list on 4.4.2011: "5.6 is going out to the external mirrors at the moment, I am going to have torrents ready for later today and then maybe release announcement sometime tomorrow."
I downloaded the CentOS 5.6 isos from an official mirror recommended from the official CentOS web site.
If the announcement in fact hasn't been made, you may be premature in doing all your upgrading.... Just because there's something named "5.6" on the mirrors doesn't mean it's the FINAL release version, or that it's all in place.
For someone who asked if he had missed something, you do know really a lot of things. Seems to me you are more a man of word and discussion than a man of action. Go and find CentOS 5.6 yourself.
Primary my mail in this list has had two purposes. First to thank the CentOS developers for their work, secondly to warn for the httpd problem. But now I have to add something.
The climate in this list is really rough. So many discussions about the "unfathomable" development process of CentOS and so many angry people waiting for the 5.6 release due to them by law of nature. Why could you guys not go away? The door is open, there are so many other distributions out there. The fact that these guys will not go away and that they will fight their battles in this list, and devel-list, is finally a compliment for the CentOS project. CentOS is rock solid. The developers do a good and great job.
I did not see anything wrong with the previous post. He was just pointing out that if it has not been officially announced that 5.6 is available, then what is on the mirrors may not be complete. If this is the case, it may be the cause of the problem you are seeing.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Olaf Mueller daily-planet@istari.de wrote:
fred smith wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:35:30PM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
I am grateful for the CentOS Project. I like it's stability and long-term support.
I haven't seen a 5.6 release announcement yet. Have I missed it?
I did not use the word announce in my post. I do not know what you miss or what you not miss. Also I do not know what your answer is good for.
$ cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.6 (Final) $ uname -a Linux meduseld.istari.de 2.6.18-238.el5 [...]
The following was posted on the CentOS devel-list on 4.4.2011: "5.6 is going out to the external mirrors at the moment, I am going to have torrents ready for later today and then maybe release announcement sometime tomorrow."
An this was posted to the CentOS twitter account yesterday 4/7 (shortly after having to re-issue the x86_64 ISOs):
http://twitter.com/CentOS/status/55950095505567745
"Just want to also point out that CentOS-5.6 is *not* released. And packages, ISOS are liable to change till that happens."
William Hooper wrote:
An this was posted to the CentOS twitter account yesterday 4/7 (shortly after having to re-issue the x86_64 ISOs):
http://twitter.com/CentOS/status/55950095505567745
"Just want to also point out that CentOS-5.6 is *not* released. And packages, ISOS are liable to change till that happens."
And this was posted on the CentOS announce list.
"[CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.6 i386 and x86_64 We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of CentOS-5.6 for i386 and x86_64 Architectures."
regards Olaf
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:25:00PM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
fred smith wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:35:30PM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
I am grateful for the CentOS Project. I like it's stability and long-term support.
I haven't seen a 5.6 release announcement yet. Have I missed it?
I did not use the word announce in my post. I do not know what you miss or what you not miss. Also I do not know what your answer is good for.
$ cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.6 (Final) $ uname -a Linux meduseld.istari.de 2.6.18-238.el5 [...]
The following was posted on the CentOS devel-list on 4.4.2011: "5.6 is going out to the external mirrors at the moment, I am going to have torrents ready for later today and then maybe release announcement sometime tomorrow."
I downloaded the CentOS 5.6 isos from an official mirror recommended from the official CentOS web site.
If the announcement in fact hasn't been made, you may be premature in doing all your upgrading.... Just because there's something named "5.6" on the mirrors doesn't mean it's the FINAL release version, or that it's all in place.
For someone who asked if he had missed something, you do know really a lot of things. Seems to me you are more a man of word and discussion than a man of action. Go and find CentOS 5.6 yourself.
Primary my mail in this list has had two purposes. First to thank the CentOS developers for their work, secondly to warn for the httpd problem. But now I have to add something.
The climate in this list is really rough. So many discussions about the "unfathomable" development process of CentOS and so many angry people waiting for the 5.6 release due to them by law of nature. Why could you guys not go away? The door is open, there are so many other distributions out there. The fact that these guys will not go away and that they will fight their battles in this list, and devel-list, is finally a compliment for the CentOS project. CentOS is rock solid. The developers do a good and great job.
Clearly you found my comment to be offensive. It certainly was not meant that way. It was simply a friendly warning that depending on a pre-announcement set of files may not give you the final product.
in previous releases there have been people who assumed it was final when in fact something was subsequently changed and re-pushed.
I have no agenda here. I'm just attempting to be helpful. If you don't find it to be helpful, you're free to ignore it.
fred smith wrote:
Clearly you found my comment to be offensive. It certainly was not meant that way. It was simply a friendly warning that depending on a pre-announcement set of files may not give you the final product.
Ok, I get the point now. Sorry Fred, my reaction was not appropriate.
You are right, my mail concerning the not yet official announced CentOS 5.6 was too early. This really could give rise to misunderstandings. So your comment was helpful, thanks.
regards Olaf
Olaf Mueller wrote on 04/08/2011 08:35 AM: ...
The only little problem happens on the upgrade of my server, since my web server doesn't start after reboot. But this was easy to fix since this error was known from the RHEL 5.6 upgrade. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669963
You have verified that CentOS is bug-for-bug compatible with upstream. :-)
That issue is noted in the Release Notes, Section 4, Know Issues: http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6
There are other potential issues lurking as 5.6 has yet to be officially released and some mirrors may be in inconsistent states due to last-minute changes.
Phil
On 4/8/2011 4:22 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
Olaf Mueller wrote on 04/08/2011 08:35 AM: ...
The only little problem happens on the upgrade of my server, since my web server doesn't start after reboot. But this was easy to fix since this error was known from the RHEL 5.6 upgrade. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669963
You have verified that CentOS is bug-for-bug compatible with upstream. :-)
That issue is noted in the Release Notes, Section 4, Know Issues: http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6
There are other potential issues lurking as 5.6 has yet to be officially released and some mirrors may be in inconsistent states due to last-minute changes.
Is there some way for yum to know about that?
Les Mikesell wrote on 04/08/2011 05:33 PM:
Is there some way for yum to know about that?
Only if it errors out on a bad package. There have been (to my knowledge) two different types of errors. One was a truncated package on the mirrors that was damaged in transit from the build system. The other is a package that had to be rebuilt. The version numbers for packages are not changing with the fixes.
Phil
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