Folks
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but only a CD reader.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere? Earlier versions had them.
Thanks
David
david wrote:
Folks
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but only a CD reader.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere? Earlier versions had them.
Thanks
David
As far as I know, this was not planed, at least not yet. For now, all you can do is to use USB DVD and install from those.
Ljubomir
At 02:10 PM 7/11/2011, you wrote:
david wrote:
Folks
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but only a CD reader.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere? Earlier versions had them.
Thanks
David
As far as I know, this was not planed, at least not yet. For now, all you can do is to use USB DVD and install from those.
Ljubomir
I wish I could, but this machine can boot only from a CD, a diskette or a HardDrive. USB is not an option.
Am I stuck on Centos 5.x forever, or will the multi-CD images appear eventually?
David
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:13 PM, david david@daku.org wrote:
I wish I could, but this machine can boot only from a CD, a diskette or a HardDrive. USB is not an option.
Am I stuck on Centos 5.x forever, or will the multi-CD images appear eventually?
The CentOS 6 announcement says that a Live CD (which will allow installation) and a Minimal Install CD are on the way "within a few days." I don't know for sure, but I think I remember that "Upstream" decided to no longer support multiple CDs when they went to version 6 of their product. You'll no longer find CD sets of version 6 at Scientific Linux either -- although they also have various Live and Minimal CDs available.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of david Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 17:13 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Installing from CD
At 02:10 PM 7/11/2011, you wrote:
david wrote:
Folks
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but
only
a
CD reader.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere?
Earlier
versions had them.
Thanks
David
As far as I know, this was not planed, at least not yet. For now, all you can do is to use USB DVD and install from those.
Ljubomir
I wish I could, but this machine can boot only from a CD, a diskette or a HardDrive. USB is not an option.
Boot with boot.iso http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Instal lation_Guide/Making_Minimal_Boot_Media.html
But you will have to find some way to get the rest of the install to the machine, such as A local hard, USB http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Instal lation_Guide/s1-begininstall-hd-x86.html NFS http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Instal lation_Guide/s1-begininstall-nfs-x86.html HTTP ... http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Instal lation_Guide/s1-installationmethod-x86.html
I have an old server I just put 6.0 on (about 2 hours ago) and it only has CD drive. a netinstall CD works just fine. If you have a decent network connection, some time on your hands, or you want a minimal installation, that's the way to go.
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane todd.denniston@navy.mil wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of david Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 17:13 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Installing from CD
At 02:10 PM 7/11/2011, you wrote:
david wrote:
Folks
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but
only
a
CD reader.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere?
Earlier
versions had them.
Thanks
David
As far as I know, this was not planed, at least not yet. For now, all you can do is to use USB DVD and install from those.
Ljubomir
I wish I could, but this machine can boot only from a CD, a diskette or a HardDrive. USB is not an option.
Boot with boot.iso http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Instal lation_Guide/Making_Minimal_Boot_Media.html
But you will have to find some way to get the rest of the install to the machine, such as A local hard, USB http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Instal lation_Guide/s1-begininstall-hd-x86.html NFS http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Instal lation_Guide/s1-begininstall-nfs-x86.html HTTP ... http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Instal lation_Guide/s1-installationmethod-x86.html
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
centos-bounces@centos.org wrote:
this machine can boot only from a ... HardDrive. USB is not an
option.
What I did: Move said hard drive to a system that has a DVD, and install there. I had to "tweak a few things" because of how the install process worked, and the differences in hardware between this DVD-capable system and my target systems, but, after said futzing, I had a HD that would boot my target systems, and I could dupe the drive for all the product we make.
After that, the drive is a "programmable part", and the code we run is an application we update in the field... ...if you're a server environment, your hurdles will not be the same as mine.
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On 07/12/2011 09:59 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
centos-bounces@centos.org wrote:
this machine can boot only from a ... HardDrive. USB is not an
option.
What I did: Move said hard drive to a system that has a DVD, and install there. I had to "tweak a few things" because of how the install process worked, and the differences in hardware between this DVD-capable system and my target systems, but, after said futzing, I had a HD that would boot my target systems, and I could dupe the drive for all the product we make.
After that, the drive is a "programmable part", and the code we run is an application we update in the field... ...if you're a server environment, your hurdles will not be the same as mine.
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With an HP DL140 we open the cover and temporarily plug in a standard atapi 5.25 DVD drive in place of the CD drive.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Steve Clark sclark@netwolves.com wrote:
With an HP DL140 we open the cover and temporarily plug in a standard atapi 5.25 DVD drive in place of the CD drive.
If he's talking about a standard Optiplex GX240, it takes a regular IDE DVD drive which is almost a throw-away item these days. I would be tempted to just pick one up on eBay and permanently install it. (I realize this may not be an option if you have a whole floor of GX240s, but for just the one I would think it would sure make life easier.)
On 07/12/11 11:53 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Steve Clarksclark@netwolves.com wrote:
With an HP DL140 we open the cover and temporarily plug in a standard atapi 5.25 DVD drive in place of the CD drive.
If he's talking about a standard Optiplex GX240, it takes a regular IDE DVD drive which is almost a throw-away item these days.
an HP DL140 is a 1U server that uses a very slim laptop style drive.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 07/12/11 11:53 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Steve Clarksclark@netwolves.com wrote:
With an HP DL140 we open the cover and temporarily plug in a standard atapi 5.25 DVD drive in place of the CD drive.
If he's talking about a standard Optiplex GX240, it takes a regular IDE DVD drive which is almost a throw-away item these days.
an HP DL140 is a 1U server that uses a very slim laptop style drive.
Even laptop style DVD drives have become a near throw-away item. Everyone wants DVD writers now.
On 07/13/2011 12:46 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM, John R Piercepierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 07/12/11 11:53 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Steve Clarksclark@netwolves.com wrote:
With an HP DL140 we open the cover and temporarily plug in a standard atapi 5.25 DVD drive in place of the CD drive.
If he's talking about a standard Optiplex GX240, it takes a regular IDE DVD drive which is almost a throw-away item these days.
an HP DL140 is a 1U server that uses a very slim laptop style drive.
Even laptop style DVD drives have become a near throw-away item. Everyone wants DVD writers now.
Yeah, but it is really hard to find atapi style laptop drives, everything has gone to sata.
Steve Clark wrote:
On 07/13/2011 12:46 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 07/12/11 11:53 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Steve Clarksclark@netwolves.com wrote:
With an HP DL140 we open the cover and temporarily plug in a standard atapi 5.25 DVD drive in place of the CD drive.
If he's talking about a standard Optiplex GX240, it takes a regular IDE DVD drive which is almost a throw-away item these days.
an HP DL140 is a 1U server that uses a very slim laptop style drive.
Even laptop style DVD drives have become a near throw-away item. Everyone wants DVD writers now.
Yeah, but it is really hard to find atapi style laptop drives, everything has gone to sata.
--
If there is support in the BIOS, you can use USB DVD drive, even if you use USB rack for HDD 3.5" and hook regular DVD drive instead of HDD. I have done that in the past.
Ljubomir
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Steve Clark wrote:
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org From: Steve Clark sclark@netwolves.com Subject: Re: [CentOS] Installing from CD
On 07/13/2011 12:46 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM, John R Piercepierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 07/12/11 11:53 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Steve Clarksclark@netwolves.com wrote:
With an HP DL140 we open the cover and temporarily plug in a standard atapi 5.25 DVD drive in place of the CD drive.
If he's talking about a standard Optiplex GX240, it takes a regular IDE DVD drive which is almost a throw-away item these days.
an HP DL140 is a 1U server that uses a very slim laptop style drive.
Even laptop style DVD drives have become a near throw-away item. Everyone wants DVD writers now.
Yeah, but it is really hard to find atapi style laptop drives, everything has gone to sata.
Try the older latops, you might even pick up a bare drive on ebay.
HTH
Keith
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On 7/13/2011 10:01 AM, Keith Roberts wrote:
Yeah, but it is really hard to find atapi style laptop drives, everything has gone to sata.
Try the older latops, you might even pick up a bare drive on ebay.
I haven't tried it with a cd/dvd drive, but you can get inexpensive USB cables with combo adapters for IDE (both full and laptop size) and sata with corresponding power connectors that are very handy to have around for temporary hookups.
Les Mikesell wrote:
On 7/13/2011 10:01 AM, Keith Roberts wrote:
Yeah, but it is really hard to find atapi style laptop drives, everything has gone to sata.
Try the older latops, you might even pick up a bare drive on ebay.
I haven't tried it with a cd/dvd drive, but you can get inexpensive USB cables with combo adapters for IDE (both full and laptop size) and sata with corresponding power connectors that are very handy to have around for temporary hookups.
It is a same thing. They are basically HDD PATA and/or SATA controllers with USB connection to PC. I have even hooked up IDE DOM modules (without the actual cable).
Ljubomir
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
To: centos@centos.org From: Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS] Installing from CD
On 7/13/2011 10:01 AM, Keith Roberts wrote:
Yeah, but it is really hard to find atapi style laptop drives, everything has gone to sata.
Try the older latops, you might even pick up a bare drive on ebay.
I haven't tried it with a cd/dvd drive, but you can get inexpensive USB cables with combo adapters for IDE (both full and laptop size) and sata with corresponding power connectors that are very handy to have around for temporary hookups.
That sounds the easiest path to go to. But if you are using USB to start with, why not try installing Centos from the USB drive directly to the fixed HDD in the machine? Or am I missing something?
Keith
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On 7/13/2011 12:15 PM, Keith Roberts wrote:
I haven't tried it with a cd/dvd drive, but you can get inexpensive USB cables with combo adapters for IDE (both full and laptop size) and sata with corresponding power connectors that are very handy to have around for temporary hookups.
That sounds the easiest path to go to. But if you are using USB to start with, why not try installing Centos from the USB drive directly to the fixed HDD in the machine? Or am I missing something?
Yes, I meant that it should work to hook any DVD drive in your junk box (or that you can temporarily pull from something else) to anything with USB 2.0 (life is too short for 1.x) - just that I hadn't tried it and the cable is also handy for other things.
But, nfs is fast and easy if you already have some other linux system installed on the network. I like to keep a directory exported via both nfs and samba (read only for most of the network) so there is no special setup need for that sort of install other than copying out the 'images' directory from the dvd image as described in the docs. With the old CD sets you didn't even have to do that.
On 07/13/11 8:30 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
I haven't tried it with a cd/dvd drive, but you can get inexpensive USB cables with combo adapters for IDE (both full and laptop size) and sata with corresponding power connectors that are very handy to have around for temporary hookups.
afaik, those won't work with CD/DVD drives, as they use a completely different command protocol on the IDE/SATA (ATAPI is scsi based commands over the IDE or SATA port). Anyways, an older system probably can't boot from a USB CD/DVD.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 07/13/11 8:30 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
I haven't tried it with a cd/dvd drive, but you can get inexpensive USB cables with combo adapters for IDE (both full and laptop size) and sata with corresponding power connectors that are very handy to have around for temporary hookups.
afaik, those won't work with CD/DVD drives, as they use a completely different command protocol on the IDE/SATA (ATAPI is scsi based commands over the IDE or SATA port). Anyways, an older system probably can't boot from a USB CD/DVD.
I've got an IDE/SATA to USB cable converter with power supply and it works fine on CD and DVD drives.
Here's basically what I have on eBay.
Though, if you've just one older server, it probably makes more sense to just get a cheap DVD drive.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:14 AM, david david@daku.org wrote:
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but only a CD reader.
No worries. Use the Net install CD and boot the system. On another system in your LAN, mount the DVD ISO and export it via either http or ftp. I believe NFS/CIFS export is also an option but I am not 100% sure.
On the "install" system that you have booted with the Netinstall Cd, choose ftp/http install and point it to the local ftp/http server you have setup in above step.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere? Earlier versions had them.
The Netinstall method from a "local" server takes care of this issue.
HTH.
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 13:44 -0700, david wrote:
Folks
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but only a CD reader.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere? Earlier versions had them.
---- ubuntu LTS
installs from a single CD
allows you to partition prior to install
Just sayin'
Craig
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 13:44 -0700, david wrote:
Folks
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but only a CD reader.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere? Earlier versions had them.
ubuntu LTS
installs from a single CD
allows you to partition prior to install
Just sayin'
You can do the same with Puppy Linux, too -- and (probably) a hundred other distributions. None of them would be CentOS.
But soon you won't have to compromise. Reportedly a Live CentOS CD is on the way and it will also allow installation. The best of both worlds.
On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 13:44 -0700, david wrote:
Folks
The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but only a CD reader.
Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere? Earlier versions had them.
ubuntu LTS
installs from a single CD
allows you to partition prior to install
Just sayin'
But soon you won't have to compromise. Reportedly a Live CentOS CD is on the way and it will also allow installation. The best of both worlds.
---- ignoring of course:
- live CD's are really slow to boot and the 'transfer' of the live image will consume a lot of install time
- you get no choice/options of partitioning
- you get a fully bloated installation when completed
a 'server install CD' could solve much of this but it would take a different version of anaconda to be able to do on the fly partitioning.
Craig
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